Philosophy Tube / Oliver Lennard / Oliver "Olly" Thorn / Abigail Thorn - Breadtube's Patrick Bateman.

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^Still can’t believe he actually did this.
Stop me if this sounds autistic but... this is giving me Chris Chan vibes in terms of appearance. Like if Chris Chan practiced a bit of self hygiene but still ended up trooning out, with the whispy wavy hair and the linebacker shoulders and the horrifically misguided self confidence.

They even transitioned for sex (while for Olly it was mostly for money)
 
This Halloween Abi decided to go as...
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A crossdresser

I would say "brave" if I didn't know this is deluded
 
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A crossdresser

I would say "brave" if I didn't know this is deluded

The way the dress hangs off his pec lol - also the fact that he still has delt definition which is hard to achieve in females. Troons seem to really struggle with hair - its always wispy and frizzy. I dont understand it as lots of guys with long hair manage it well? I for one am spooked.
 
This Halloween Abi decided to go as...
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A crossdresser

I would say "brave" if I didn't know this is deluded
Damn, that’s one thick torso. You look at the front, expect it to curve back beneath the armpit, and instead it just goes and goes. No sensuality to the exposed skin, just confusion.

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the death of a seventy year queen will be spun around ME
 
This Halloween Abi decided to go as...
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A crossdresser

I would say "brave" if I didn't know this is deluded
i thought you were going to say he decided to go as “shoulders’’
@Futaba maybe the weird hair thing (i know just what you mean) is a hormones thing?
or maybe it’s a misusing products, all of a sudden, thing. it does take a lot of time to get that right.
 
The way the dress hangs off his pec lol - also the fact that he still has delt definition which is hard to achieve in females. Troons seem to really struggle with hair - its always wispy and frizzy. I dont understand it as lots of guys with long hair manage it well? I for one am spooked.
Most guys that keep long hair beyond their teens usually have naturally thick and full hair. Troons have long hair because that's what women has, not because they have the hair for it (hint: most guys don't have hair to pull off a long style some time after 25, even those that don't go bald).
 
The way the dress hangs off his pec lol - also the fact that he still has delt definition which is hard to achieve in females. Troons seem to really struggle with hair - its always wispy and frizzy. I dont understand it as lots of guys with long hair manage it well? I for one am spooked.

Most guys that keep long hair beyond their teens usually have naturally thick and full hair. Troons have long hair because that's what women has, not because they have the hair for it (hint: most guys don't have hair to pull off a long style some time after 25, even those that don't go bald).
Asides from the issue of thinning hair, it's a case of not using conditioner on the length after washing (IF they wash it), never using any kind of oil or product to tame the frizz, and refusing to trim off split ends.
 
Asides from the issue of thinning hair, it's a case of not using conditioner on the length after washing (IF they wash it), never using any kind of oil or product to tame the frizz, and refusing to trim off split ends.
Nope. It’s really just genetics. 🧬 testosterone is a bitch for your hair. I guarantee you PT uses all kinds of fancy products
 
Most guys that keep long hair beyond their teens usually have naturally thick and full hair. Troons have long hair because that's what women has, not because they have the hair for it (hint: most guys don't have hair to pull off a long style some time after 25, even those that don't go bald).

I feel like hair heavy periods like the 70s the men did not have this scraggly, wispy vibe that troons have. It must be some kind of deficiency or maybe just general bad diet/lifestyle that troondom offers. I do think your onto something @AfghanBlue and @Cr1ms0n_&_C10v3r - especially the not wanting to cut off the split ends in the name of length.
 
I feel like hair heavy periods like the 70s the men did not have this scraggly, wispy vibe that troons have. It must be some kind of deficiency or maybe just general bad diet/lifestyle that troondom offers. I do think your onto something @AfghanBlue and @Cr1ms0n_&_C10v3r - especially the not wanting to cut off the split ends in the name of length.
My guess is telogen effluvium. It's stress induced, physical or psychological, and if it's bad enough, it can wreak absolute havoc on your hair. Not only does it fall out like crazy, it also becomes thin, dry and brittle and no matter how many high quality products you use, it will never look as thick, shiny and luscious as a healthy person's hair. Some people retain this for the rest of their lives and the condition itself can and does go on for years, especially if it becomes chronic or triggers genetically predisposed hair loss. In all fairness, I've seen women aplenty who have gone through this and it utterly annihilates their confidence, but they will generally hold on to length if nothing else and refuse to cut it, no matter how bad looking it gets. And I get putting question marks behind many things Olly claims, but I never once doubted he absolutely has dealt with severe depression. That'll do the trick if you're sensitive to this kind of hair loss.

So, as much as I find PT's choice of style questionable at best at times (the dress above is definitely making my eyes bleed), I have to give credit where it's due: the hair is not as bad as many others I've seen and it seems that an effort is being made at least. Natural waves and curls alone can be a bitch to care for properly, let alone if you throw telogen effluvium into the mix.
 
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Looks like he just threw together his best attempt at skinwalking Contra's Halloween costume that was posted earlier. Can't tell which one looks worse.
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I don't know what's wrong with Olly's hair but I can't stand looking at it and I've seen TIMs that claimed they didn't even realize they shouldn't be applying conditioner to their roots and shampoo to the tips of the hair. I wouldn't be surprised if it's just TIM incompetence.
 
Looks like he just threw together his best attempt at skinwalking Contra's Halloween costume that was posted earlier. Can't tell which one looks worse.
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I'm biased because I do enjoy Contra, but even if I'm trying to be as objective as possible: Olly's definitely looks far, far worse. Contra's is at least fitted to the body and fitting with her overall sense of style of kind of gothic, a little over the top but still subtle enough to work. Olly's is just extremely weird. It looks like it's supposed to be a sleek evening gown, sort of Bondgirl-ish aesthetic, but it fails spectacularly on his frame. Boobs should fill it in the front but there's nothing there to do that and like someone else said, where it's supposed to wrap around to the back, it just goes on straight downwards because of the giant barrel chest and pecs. Contra, at a quick glance, looks like Lady Gaga pre-nosejob and with little makeup (for Gaga at least) in that pic which, imo, is 1,000% more feminine than Olly on his very best of days.
 
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Looks like he just threw together his best attempt at skinwalking Contra's Halloween costume that was posted earlier. Can't tell which one looks worse.
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I don't know what's wrong with Olly's hair but I can't stand looking at it and I've seen TIMs that claimed they didn't even realize they shouldn't be applying conditioner to their roots and shampoo to the tips of the hair. I wouldn't be surprised if it's just TIM incompetence.
Looking forward to the most middle class man on Earth dropping truths about the utility of radical political violence.
 
My guess is telogen effluvium. It's stress induced, physical or psychological, and if it's bad enough, it can wreak absolute havoc on your hair. Not only does it fall out like crazy, it also becomes thin, dry and brittle and no matter how many high quality products you use, it will never look as thick, shiny and luscious as a healthy person's hair. Some people retain this for the rest of their lives and the condition itself can and does go on for years, especially if it becomes chronic or triggers genetically predisposed hair loss. In all fairness, I've seen women aplenty who have gone through this and it utterly annihilates their confidence, but they will generally hold on to length if nothing else and refuse to cut it, no matter how bad looking it gets.
I had this during my teens and more women need to realise one of the best things you can do is keep the ends trimmed. Cutting off frizzy shit will not only limit hair getting weak and splitting, it'll make it look slightly thicker. You don't want long but ratty hair, take it from someone whose hair used to be past their ass.
Ollie does look better than most AGPs I've seen. Troons really don't understand these things and think length is what matters most, but it isn't. Hairline for example matters much more than length if you want to look female. They also think things like "pastel colours = feminine" so they'll dye their hair pink or purple with no thought beyond that, and just end up standing out even more.
 
I hope Ollys video is going to argue that there is a literal genocide, holocaust, apartheid against trans people lol

Just on contra - normally the proportions of the face are split into thirds but from contras brow bone to bottom of nose literally takes up 2 thirds of his face instead of one. Also why would you not do a smokey eye with this look? The red lip is not it.
 
I had this during my teens and more women need to realise one of the best things you can do is keep the ends trimmed. Cutting off frizzy shit will not only limit hair getting weak and splitting, it'll make it look slightly thicker. You don't want long but ratty hair, take it from someone whose hair used to be past their ass.
Ollie does look better than most AGPs I've seen. Troons really don't understand these things and think length is what matters most, but it isn't. Hairline for example matters much more than length if you want to look female. They also think things like "pastel colours = feminine" so they'll dye their hair pink or purple with no thought beyond that, and just end up standing out even more.
I agree, but try explaining that to someone bordering on hysterical and understandably so, since they find a small hamster in their drain every morning. My advice is always: keep it trimmed, even if it means it won't go past the shoulders, nourish and learn some easy messy updos because they can be made to look like one has a lot more hair than is actually the case. But I get the panic and wanting to hold on to what's left. I've gone through it myself and have seen women who've had it worse and it's devastating every time to hear the stories and sense the tears and desperation behind the trembling voice.
 
This might be Olly's "girl"friend??? Olly mentioned in a previous livestream that he would maybe want to move to Seattle if he had to move to the U.S. Not going to draw any conclusions though since I can't account for "unknowns" and "coincidences", and this could just be a friend.
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Some tweets that kinda hint to a relationship below. Keep in mind that Olly has complained about how his girlfriend can't fly out to see him because of COVID restrictions.

BTW, just if it useful for you, I found Claire's reddit user from an old post she made

Not much there, just random post promoting Claire's studio and a lot of gaming posts.
But....you never know when there might be something more telling.
 
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