Covid/mRNA Vaccine Info General - "Covid Seasonal Flu Vaccines is Society's New Normal" - FDA

[Badungus Kabungus]

Fluvoxamine has been in the Covid Critical Care Alliance MATH+ treatment guidelines for over 6 months. We've known about this forever and somehow only now they're bringing it up in the MSM?

MSM reporting on it is an interesting development for sure. Some of the language in the article sounds like they may be planning to shift the narrative away from vaccines and towards other treatments. Who knows. Weirder things have happened.

 

[NoReturn]

More promising news. Another cheap treatment option discovered.

Cheap antidepressant shows promise treating early COVID-19 | AP News

A cheap antidepressant reduced the need for hospitalization among high-risk adults with COVID-19 in a study hunting for existing drugs that could be repurposed to treat coronavirus. Researchers tested the pill used for depression and obsessive-compulsive disorder because it was known to reduce...

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Cheap antidepressant shows promise treating early COVID-19

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I just hope the opposite doesn't happen and it gets harder to find like with ivermectin.

 

[Shaka Brah]

I just hope the opposite doesn't happen and it gets harder to find like with ivermectin.

Or the weird turn on Aspirin. As soon as it was acknowledged as a valid part of combination treatment for coronavirus the FDA told people to stop giving it out for heart attack prevention, claiming low-dose Aspirin was unsafe.

 

[Hollywood Hulk Hogan]

More promising news. Another cheap treatment option discovered.

Cheap antidepressant shows promise treating early COVID-19 | AP News

A cheap antidepressant reduced the need for hospitalization among high-risk adults with COVID-19 in a study hunting for existing drugs that could be repurposed to treat coronavirus. Researchers tested the pill used for depression and obsessive-compulsive disorder because it was known to reduce...

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Cheap antidepressant shows promise treating early COVID-19

archived 28 Oct 2021 01:58:33 UTC

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Hopefully it works. However, wait until more studies are done to determine if it actually does before saying it's a treatment option

 

[Grannys Cookiez]

Hopefully it works. However, wait until more studies are done to determine if it actually does before saying it's a treatment option

A 8 month study would be sufficient, just like the vaccines. Then we can push those pills on EVERYONE!!!

 

[jje100010001]

MSM reporting on it is an interesting development for sure. Some of the language in the article sounds like they may be planning to shift the narrative away from vaccines and towards other treatments. Who knows. Weirder things have happened.

In this case perhaps there's a slim glimmer of hope that TPTB realize there needs to be an off-ramp from the pandemic, before normies fully come to terms with the fact that the 2020 vaccines are no longer working due to antigenic shift.

Effective treatment after infection will be part of that, not just maxvaxxing and blowing out ICU patients' lungs with ventilators.

 

[EyelessMC]

Posting this after I forgot who showed it to me and if it was put in the thread or not:

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/pdfs/mm7034e5-H.pdf

And that's why we're always stuck in statistics limbo when it comes to the hospitalizations of the vaccinated vs unvaccinated

 

[Grannys Cookiez]

Posting this after I forgot who showed it to me and if it was put in the thread or not:
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https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/pdfs/mm7034e5-H.pdf

And that's why we're always stuck in statistics limbo when it comes to the hospitalizations of the vaccinated vs unvaccinated

What piques more of my interest is "if no vaccine registry data were available." Does the study say how and where they are verifying vaccinations?
I've heard that if someone is vaccinated anywhere other than the hospital the are admitted to, the hospital considers them unvaccinated since they don't have a way to verify vaccine status since it was administered outside their hospital network. I haven't seen any sources, so I'm not sure how accurate that it is, but I can see them considering people who got vaccinated at a chain pharmacy/convenience store as unvaxxed.

 

[Fanatical Pragmatist]

In this case perhaps there's a slim glimmer of hope that TPTB realize there needs to be an off-ramp from the pandemic, before normies fully come to terms with the fact that the 2020 vaccines are no longer working due to antigenic shift.

Effective treatment after infection will be part of that, not just maxvaxxing and blowing out ICU patients' lungs with ventilators.

TPTB are largely old boomers. Selfish old boomers.
Most of them are incompetent, but not all. There are probably a few who realize that maxvaxxing just ensures any of the vaccine-resistant lineages (Delta Plus+, Mu, A.30, etc.) have population dominance of the wild-type virus population and will inevitably make their way back to them, thus making their own 4 Pfizer shot regimen useless.

I just hope the opposite doesn't happen and it gets harder to find like with ivermectin.

Its hard to find Ivermectin?

See I was scrounging around "alternative medicine" clinics, the kind with the reputation for being quote """anti-vaxxur""", and they wouldn't write me a damn medical exemption note but made vocal note of their willingness to prescribe Ivermectin.
It kind of pissed me off, honestly.

 

[Shaka Brah]

I've heard that if someone is vaccinated anywhere other than the hospital the are admitted to, the hospital considers them unvaccinated since they don't have a way to verify vaccine status since it was administered outside their hospital network. I haven't seen any sources, so I'm not sure how accurate that it is, but I can see them considering people who got vaccinated at a chain pharmacy/convenience store as unvaxxed.

I can say at least for Hawaiian health systems that this is the case, because the State has refused to provide vaccination registry information to anyone including hospitals. Mainland hospitals probably suffer the same shitty HIPAA denials that hospitals here get, where the State says "Sorry, this important patient treatment data is just not necessary for you to know, so the law lets us keep it from you!"

Some University of Hawai'i professors threatened to sue the State for failing to provide them anonymized vaccination and hospitalization data (which the State apparently does collect) because the government claimed that this completely anonymized data would allow them to identify vaccinated individuals and thus violated HIPAA.

 

[EyelessMC]

Here we go. They actually went through with it.

The entire thing is laden with garbage meant to assuage concerns. This is blatantly anti-science in most every regard simply because of the asinine "benefit-risk" assessment, its attempt at emotional appeal and "trust the science" falsehood about the danger of hospitalizations and death Covid poses to children, the absolute least affected by the virus and its variants.
REMINDER:
- This will not prevent spread. They do not say it will.
- This will not prevent infection. They do not say it will.
- This will not prevent illness. They do not say it will.
This can only prevent symptomatic illness and supposedly, they say, prevent ICU and death from Covid--both of which were never enough of a risk to toddlers for this measure to begin with.

And it's on these grounds that the FDA is once again leading the claim of "90% Effectiveness". Where have we heard that before?

This is beyond it. Of course now the state has a reason to institute vaccine mandates against your little kids, and I guarantee they will. Then we'll have parents making the same statements about their kids that people do about their jobs-- "I can't afford to not have my kids in school! I have to get them vaccinated!"
To Hell with you. If you get your 5yr old vaccinated for Covid after the most consistent and basic scientific finding telling you to do otherwise all year, you deserve to buy a tiny casket and to climb in it yourself instead of putting your child inside.

What piques more of my interest is "if no vaccine registry data were available." Does the study say how and where they are verifying vaccinations?

Haven't gone through it all yet but I'd assume it's through their own networks, hence the entire reason for vaccine passport cards. However remember what the VAERS whistle blower doctor said in her interview (found in the Science tab of the OP):
"Because on admission [to ICU] there is no requirement to ask about the vaccine. So our system [her hospital's] is set up that if you're fully vaccinated in our health system somewhere--one of our clinics or somebody has put it in one of our outpatient clinics--it will automatically be put into the electronic health record. But if you're vaccinated say at a CVS pharmacy or something outside of the system, that's not gonna be automatically put in that system unless you ask., so it'll list you as unvaccinated in the system."

So it seems it's partly a matter of requesting and/or volunteering the information if you were vaccinated outside of a given hospital's network.

 

[Fuck It We'll Do It Live]

See I was scrounging around "alternative medicine" clinics, the kind with the reputation for being quote """anti-vaxxur""", and they wouldn't write me a damn medical exemption note but made vocal note of their willingness to prescribe Ivermectin.
It kind of pissed me off, honestly.

Lol, those spoofers can prescribe a proper medication like Ivermectin, I thought they could only "prescribe" something like herbal teas.

 

[Fanatical Pragmatist]

Lol, those spoofers can prescribe a proper medication like Ivermectin, I thought they could only "prescribe" something like herbal teas.

Oh yeah, they will prescribe you legit medicine; and then try and hook you on magic herbal supplement pills and vitamin oils to "reduce the side effects" of the same standard-issue big pharma product they prescribe.

Total grifters.
You would think that they would just pocket a "visitation fee" and write a fucking doctor's note but no... Gotta shill Ivermectin...

 

[jje100010001]

Study done on mice to show what could happen if the vaxx is injected intravenously instead of intramuscularly (which is a risk in humans if the nurse doesn't know or care, or if the vaxx escapes the injection site).

Heads-up, the pictures depict dissected mice, but the damage done to the heart is extremely evident.

Low power scanning of heart sections showed blue stained thickened visceral pericardium over the right atrium and ventricle at 1 dpi of IV vaccine, which became more prominent at 2 dpi (Figure 2A). At higher magnification, calcific deposits were seen in these thickened pericardial tissues (Figure 2D). Multifocal pericardial and myocardial inflammatory cell infiltrates and interstitial oedema were also observed (Figure 2C). Frequent foci of cardiomyocytes had degenerative changes as evident by the loss of the normal pattern of cross-striation and occasionally sarcoplasmic vacuolation, and necrotic changes as distinguished by the attainment of a homogenous appearance, sarcoplasmic fragmentation, or pyknosis (Figure 2E). These changes were significantly more frequent in the IV vaccine group at 2 dpi (Table 1) and more often in the right atrium and right ventricles of the affected animals and especially prominent on their pericardial side. Immunohistochemical staining with anti-CD45 (biomarker for immune cells of lymphoid or myeloid origin) indicated that these were leukocytes, of which many were macrophages or histiocytes positive for CD68. CD3-positive T cells were seen less often (Figure 2G).The numbers of leukocytes were more than 14 per square millimeter in the affected myocardial foci. These findings suggested that mice given IV mRNA COVID-19 vaccine can develop acute myopericarditis. Similar histopathological changes and severity were found in male mice (Supplementary Figures 2B, 2C).

Both Pfizer/BioNTech and Moderna have clearly stated that their vaccines should only be given via IM route [30, 31]. However, current CDC [6] and WHO guidelines [5] no longer recommend precautionary measures during IM vaccine administration. Brief aspiration for blood return during intramuscular injection of medication as a preventive measure against accidental IV injection was previously present in most guidelines [32]. This practice becomes controversial as scientific evidence of the perceived benefit of this procedure is lacking for IM injection of vaccine. The CDC Pink Book 2020 [6] and WHO 2015 position paper [5] have recommended against aspiration prior to vaccine injection so as to minimize pain [33]. The veins and arteries within the reach of a syringe needle in the deltoid region are considered too small to allow a rapid IV injection of vaccine without blowing out the vessel [6]. However, this speculation also lacks supportive scientific evidence. Another possibility of getting a high blood mRNA vaccine level is the rapid movement of the vaccine through the lymphatic system into the venous circulation. Thus changing the vaccine injection site from deltoid to the vastus lateralis muscle of lateral mid-thigh may reduce the amount of vaccine lipid nanoparticles reaching the venous circulation due to enhanced uptake by the dendritic cells and macrophages at the regional inguinal, iliac and para-aortic lymph nodes.

Intravenous Injection of Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19) mRNA Vaccine Can Induce Acute Myopericarditis in Mouse Model

Intravenous injection of coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) messenger RNA (mRNA) vaccine may induce gross and histopathological changes of acute myopericarditi

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@EyelessMC

 

[Jarolleon]

LOL
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in before deboonked and fact checked.

The article (has it been edited?) clarifies that this difference is due to Relative vs. Absolute risk reduction. If you only have a 2% chance of getting the coof to begin with, even if the vax was 95% effective it would only be an absolute risk reduction of 1.9% .

 

[Fanatical Pragmatist]

The article (has it been edited?) clarifies that this difference is due to Relative vs. Absolute risk reduction. If you only have a 2% chance of getting the coof to begin with, even if the vax was 95% effective it would only be an absolute risk reduction of 1.9% .

I'm pretty sure your odds of catching COVID in a six-month period are higher than 2% though.

 

[Badungus Kabungus]

(Professor voice) Good news, everyone!

Pandemic over, looks like the cure was just vitamin D3 all along.

COVID-19 Mortality Risk Correlates Inversely with Vitamin D3 Status, and a Mortality Rate Close to Zero Could Theoretically Be Achieved at 50 ng/mL 25(OH)D3: Results of a Systematic Review and Meta-Analysis - PubMed

The datasets provide strong evidence that low D3 is a predictor rather than just a side effect of the infection. Despite ongoing vaccinations, we recommend raising serum 25(OH)D levels to above 50 ng/mL to prevent or mitigate new outbreaks due to escape mutations or decreasing antibody activity.

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COVID-19 Mortality Risk Correlates Inversely with Vitamin D3 Status, …

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[NoReturn]

Study done on mice to show what could happen if the vaxx is injected intravenously instead of intramuscularly (which is a risk in humans if the nurse doesn't know or care, or if the vaxx escapes the injection site).

Heads-up, the pictures depict dissected mice, but the damage done to the heart is extremely evident.

Intravenous Injection of Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19) mRNA Vaccine Can Induce Acute Myopericarditis in Mouse Model

Intravenous injection of coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) messenger RNA (mRNA) vaccine may induce gross and histopathological changes of acute myopericarditi

academic.oup.com

@EyelessMC

Son of a fucking shit.

Spoiler: Fig 1. Cropped down to only show the hearts and not the whole mouse

Fuck.

 

[Shaka Brah]

Son of a fucking shit.

Spoiler: Fig 1. Cropped down to only show the hearts and not the whole mouse

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Remember when redditors ridiculed skeptics by saying hepatitis after the vaccine "wasn't a side effect" and thus VAERS was invalid?

 

[Protistology]

(Professor voice) Good news, everyone!

Pandemic over, looks like the cure was just vitamin D3 all along.

COVID-19 Mortality Risk Correlates Inversely with Vitamin D3 Status, and a Mortality Rate Close to Zero Could Theoretically Be Achieved at 50 ng/mL 25(OH)D3: Results of a Systematic Review and Meta-Analysis - PubMed

The datasets provide strong evidence that low D3 is a predictor rather than just a side effect of the infection. Despite ongoing vaccinations, we recommend raising serum 25(OH)D levels to above 50 ng/mL to prevent or mitigate new outbreaks due to escape mutations or decreasing antibody activity.

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COVID-19 Mortality Risk Correlates Inversely with Vitamin D3 Status, …

archived 31 Oct 2021 19:28:19 UTC

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Vitamin D treats inflammation

Vitamin D and inflammation - PubMed

archived 31 Oct 2021 21:15:03 UTC

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https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/21067953/

and low vitamin D may even cause it.

Inflammation and vitamin D: the infection connection - PubMed

Some authorities now believe that low 25(OH)D is a consequence of chronic inflammation rather than the cause. Research points to a bacterial etiology pathogenesis for an inflammatory disease process which results in high 1,25(OH)2D and low 25(OH)D. Immunotherapy, directed at eradicating...

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https://archive.md/hErJo

The inflammation and oxidative stress that Covid causes is what kills you.

Vitamin D is produced by sun contact. Being a shut in is the worst thing you can do for Covid. I wonder why the gov't enforced being kept out of the sun?