Wuhan Coronavirus: Megathread - Got too big

[Grannys Cookiez]

Take for example that last study by the CDC. It was full of flawed methodology and *disclaimers*, and even hidden in the details they basically admitted age is a better indicator of survival rate than vaccinated status;

Could you link that report?

 

[Jarolleon]

Some of it is, but you just know a lot of the "science" that confirms the media narrative is being funded by Pfizer and other Pharma companies. They're using the same playbook tobacco companies used in the 50s and 60s to say smoking didn't cause lung cancer by using grant money as bribes to produce garbage studies. But I 100% guarantee

It's sad that many public health activists made a career unmasking the shady shit the tobacco industry did in the 20th century (and to a degree still does) and even took aim at Big Pharma over their history of overprescribing drugs and creation of the opioid epidemic, yet are the same ones who demand we all take the useless Pharma product. Although granted, some seem pretty honest when they say that killing 1,000 kids and giving 10,000 kids myocarditis is preferable to letting 1,100 boomers die of Fauci's virus and giving 11,000 boomers long covid.

I wonder if the Tobacco industry was only exposed because they made too many enemies. Maybe the new ideology of the 1960s needed to score an easy victory over the old culture it had supplanted, and smoking was the best target due to its provable material effects and its ubiquity from 1920-1960. It produces a tale of experts revolting against old money fat cats and exposing the web of lies they'd made, a lovely conquest mythology (so to speak) for the current decision-makers. Isn't it convenient that things like this serve to paint the industrial age as a time when the powerful recklessly trampled over both nature and the rest of humanity and caused more harm than they could possibly imagine? A great contrast with the modern way, insipid design by committee with all stakeholders accounted for (on paper at least).

Kind of like how Watergate was supposed to be some great triumph of investigative journalism, but the same people who did it now endorse every modern-day partisan hit job (except those from the right for obvious reasons) , and it gets clearer and clearer that it was just a well-executed move of the same type, stamped into the boomer consciousness by good timing. Either that, or all of this was common knowledge among the real right and I'm just politically drifting into their bubble and thinking that shit they've been saying since 1960 is somehow new. .

 

[FatalTater]

Saw this on the reddit. I was never a fan of the hero worship given to firefighters post-2001 but they might have a point here.

r/conspiracy - Firing our heroes; have we forgotten? God forgive us, we know not what we do.

517 votes and 80 comments so far on Reddit

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[jje100010001]

Interesting if true- that some of the short-term adverse effect problems are limited to certain batches:

An investigation of data found in the USA’s Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS) has revealed that extremely high numbers of adverse reactions and deaths have been reported against specific lot numbers of the Covid-19 vaccines several times, meaning deadly batches of the experimental injections have now been identified.

But what’s perhaps more concerning is that the “deadly” lots were distributed widely across the United States whilst other “benign” lots were sent to just a few locations.

EXCLUSIVE - 100% of Covid-19 Vaccine Deaths were caused by just 5% of the batches produced according to official Government data

An investigation of data found in the USA's Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS) has revealed that extremely high numbers of adverse reactions and dea

theexpose.uk

Some comments:

There were several articles in mainstream sources last March about the quality control issues in the McPherson plant, they can still be accessed. Mold is a big issue there.

Cold chain failure? These products must be stored with great care at extraordinarily low temperatures. Did errors in handling cause certain lots of the product to get too warm and spoil?

This information about different safety profiles of different “lots” (batches of finished product of covid19 vaccines) is completely without precedent.
I’m thinking about it & I don’t yet have clear in my mind what the envelope of plausible / possible explanations are.

But the bottom line is that the majority of lots were associated with good short term safety, few hospitalisations & death (true both for Pfizer & Moderna).

But in both cases, a small number of vaccine lots are associated with incredibly high rates of adverse events including deaths.

How can this possibly happen? Drug manufacturing is performed to exacting standards of control. The ‘active’ agent is made in batches (it cannot be guessed how many doses each batch makes, because no one has ever made commercial scale mRNA products before.

But each batch of what’s called “drug substance” is then used to formulate, fill, pack & label various lots of finished drug product.

Testing methods are developed for all of the manufacturing steps, together with standards for the results to be considered acceptable.

Something happened between drug substance & drug product which resulted in a small number of finished lots for distribution which were destined to kill huge numbers of people.

Possible explanations (not exhaustive):

1. Errors made in the final steps of manufacturing which resulted in certain batches bring reasonably benign & others extraordinarily deadly. I just cannot imagine the kind of mistakes which could produce such radically different clinical profiles. For example, poor handling during shipping & storage prior to administration to people. Problem I have with this is that such handling errors (eg allowing temperate to rise way above limits defined in stability testing) usually result in drug product which doesn’t work properly, as it’s degraded, not in drug product that’s incredible dangerous.

2. At some point in manufacturing, someone or some entity actively modified what was being filled into vials, and it was this which resulted in extreme skew of clinical safety profile.

There has been so much truly awful behaviour of “elites” that I’m simply not willing (as I would have historically) to dismiss the possibility that this has been done on purpose.

What I do know, and this is a test of whether there’s the slightest sign of integrity from these companies as well as the regulatory agencies, is that all use of the affected produce must immediately cease, all batches of drug substance & lots of drug product should cease.

The materials should be recalled to a place of stable storage & an intense analytical investigation initiated.

Unless factors are found which adequately explain the huge differences in clinical adverse event profiles, administration to humans must not restart.

If the manufacturers do not exhibit sufficient control of drug product, the authorisation they hold from various regulatory authorities are utterly voided.

Just when you thought this debacle couldn’t possibly get any worse, it gets much worse.

Expect to hear more about this.

Meanwhile, who in their right mind would roll up their sleeve?

Note, I have no information on the other vaccines or other territories not covered by this analysis of VAERS.

Best wishes
Mike

Dr Mike Yeadon

Strikes me as peculiar that the same thing should happen across two different vaccines. Unless you want to argue it always happens in all vaccine manufacture. But I thought what happened in all ‘drug’ manufacture was no errors.

From the Chans (https://boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/345557470 https://boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/345552313):

If it was standardized, the Japanese wouldn't have found DIFFERENT visible contaminants in different lots.

Could some of these be placebo groups? They rushed it to market perhaps they had a meme agreement to make some of the lots placebos. Even if there's contaminants and inferior quality in some of them would that really explain how some lots of 0 or 1 deaths and others have more than 80?

Could they have varied the amount of the mRNA juice in the vials? The moderna has 40 trillion per dose but could some have more or less than that?

Think about it if you're a company that's releasing something to market you now have additional data to track internally. We now know that there's a big difference between each lot in terms of quality the question is is this unintentional (trololo can't sue us who cares about quality) or intentional?

We need to know the absolute number of each batch given before we can draw any comparative conclusion on the number of deaths.

Example:
Lot A, 10,000,000 doses given, 500 deaths
Lot B, 1000 doses given, 400 deaths

With the data you present, lot A looks worse, even though lot B is basically poison by comparison when you know the full story

https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/320326114/#320326114

Another rumor has it that since the tests are still ongoing, the dosage strength may in-fact intentionally vary across batches- and it seems like the higher the dosage strength (mRNA or viral vector), the greater the adverse effects.

My guess is that at its most "benign", safety measures were ignored in order to push out these vaccines, resulting in contaminated and deadly batches (also how the concerns about handling vanished overnight). Could this also be potentially utilized as an accusation against Operation Warp Speed if things go sour?

 

[DavidS877]

That and light some candles. To ward off the dark and the gloom. Best thing ever for the mood, to be indoors all comfy from the cold and wind and rain.

Personally this is the best time of the year. I love the wind and the rain. I'm sitting here hoping my weather station sees more than the previous record of 70MPH. Not today, today was boring and sunny.

I'm considering seeing if I can get a 'Sunroom' built on the deck, but not for the sun.

 

[tehpope]

In this 2 minute speech, European Parliament member talks about the political "elite" and how they conspire for their own benefit at regular people's expense. She ties this in to the "vaccine" with emphasis on freedom.

 

[Marchesa of the Vast]

Halloween in this neighborhood was probably the busiest I've seen. Had lots of friends over. Lots of trick or treaters. Even took the kid around to grab herself some candy.

I'm not sure how much the people around here even notice the autistic screeching our government officials have been putting out.

 

[Yuri_]

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Who is this?

 

[tehpope]

Who is this?

Christine Anderson, European Parliament

 

[Zbk3VmLfujjzjxBd43tL]

I wonder if the Tobacco industry was only exposed because they made too many enemies. Maybe the new ideology of the 1960s needed to score an easy victory over the old culture it had supplanted, and smoking was the best target due to its provable material effects and its ubiquity from 1920-1960. It produces a tale of experts revolting against old money fat cats and exposing the web of lies they'd made, a lovely conquest mythology (so to speak) for the current decision-makers. Isn't it convenient that things like this serve to paint the industrial age as a time when the powerful recklessly trampled over both nature and the rest of humanity and caused more harm than they could possibly imagine? A great contrast with the modern way, insipid design by committee with all stakeholders accounted for (on paper at least).

That's an interesting theory. I think the world of the elites is far more cutthroat than is assumed. It's not hard to imagine them harming their own billionaires to look like heroes, since most people love to see politicians do something like slam the fatcats with giant fines. Hell, we're seeing it again with the oil industry where they have to play the villains to advance the environmentalist agenda which involves anything but saving the planet.

If this is true, then we just need to wait 40-50 years to be proven right once again and watch Pharma get slapped with massive fines and some sort of law that allows aging survivors of vaccinations to receive at least some compensation. Unfortunately, that'll just hand some politicians, journos, and "experts" a free victory that they'll use to further entrench themselves and do god knows what with.

Kind of like how Watergate was supposed to be some great triumph of investigative journalism, but the same people who did it now endorse every modern-day partisan hit job (except those from the right for obvious reasons) , and it gets clearer and clearer that it was just a well-executed move of the same type, stamped into the boomer consciousness by good timing.

I really want to believe that Watergate was a short era when American politics (and maybe Western politics as a whole) tried to be more honest (late 60s - early 90s), since it was the same era that saw a bunch of state political machines dismantled/get restricted to local places and politicians get nailed for corruption (like Abscam), but you're probably right. Watergate and a lot of corruption investigations could have just been a way to get the boomers/silent generation (i.e. turbo-boomers) into politics while purging the older generation i.e. shit they'll never subject themselves to. No surprise all these "young and promising" politicians like Joe Brandon, Dianne Feinstein, Dick Cheney, etc. first popped up in the 70s.

 

[Jarolleon]

That's an interesting theory. I think the world of the elites is far more cutthroat than is assumed. It's not hard to imagine them harming their own billionaires to look like heroes, since most people love to see politicians do something like slam the fatcats with giant fines. Hell, we're seeing it again with the oil industry where they have to play the villains to advance the environmentalist agenda which involves anything but saving the planet.

If this is true, then we just need to wait 40-50 years to be proven right once again and watch Pharma get slapped with massive fines and some sort of law that allows aging survivors of vaccinations to receive at least some compensation. Unfortunately, that'll just hand some politicians, journos, and "experts" a free victory that they'll use to further entrench themselves and do god knows what with.

I really want to believe that Watergate was a short era when American politics (and maybe Western politics as a whole) tried to be more honest (late 60s - early 90s), since it was the same era that saw a bunch of state political machines dismantled/get restricted to local places and politicians get nailed for corruption (like Abscam), but you're probably right. Watergate and a lot of corruption investigations could have just been a way to get the boomers/silent generation (i.e. turbo-boomers) into politics while purging the older generation i.e. shit they'll never subject themselves to. No surprise all these "young and promising" politicians like Joe Brandon, Dianne Feinstein, Dick Cheney, etc. first popped up in the 70s.

It wouldn't be the same sort of people being handed a free victory though if my theory is right, because this type of thing is part of the process of a new elite supplanting a previous one. So if we go full blown theocracy (of the Christian or Woke variety), then this will likely be dredged up and blamed on "Godlessness" or "Capitalism" or some other scare word that they use to describe whatever we have now.

Though I can't think of older examples of a specific social cause being taken up just to stick it to the previous elite. Carpetbaggers and the Freedman's Bureau is close, but that's the result of one culture beating another in a war. They did spin a lot of myths about how horrible the Middle Ages were in the Enlightenment (when the Burghers began to eclipse them in Western Europe), many of which are still commonly believed, i.e. "serfs were slaves", "droit de seigneur", "every village was hunting witches" &c. but the closest thing to something like what I describe is that the radical Jacobins were called "Sans-culottes", after a gentleman's fashion of the time which they went without. Maybe it's because these transitions used to be quite bloody, no need to ritually humiliate the previous elite when you've killed a bunch of them.

 

[Vic Viper T301]

I didn't get a single trick or treater this year. Same as last year. I never got a ton in the before times, living on a dead end street in a fairly isolated neighborhood, but could generally count on at least a dozen or so rings at my doorbell Halloween night if I had the outside lights on. My area seems to be pretty much done with forced masking in the local stores and food places etc, no places I go require them anymore and I'd say 90% of people I see are maskless, so I was thinking things might be back to a relative normal. Oh well.

 

[Puff]

I didn't get a single trick or treater this year. Same as last year. I never got a ton in the before times, living on a dead end street in a fairly isolated neighborhood, but could generally count on at least a dozen or so rings at my doorbell Halloween night if I had the outside lights on. My area seems to be pretty much done with forced masking in the local stores and food places etc, no places I go require them anymore and I'd say 90% of people I see are maskless, so I was thinking things might be back to a relative normal. Oh well.

I've never been out on Halloween in my hometown (working from home, so visiting my parents) but downtown here was packed with families. Just slammed to the point where it's hard to drive. And it's a two stop sign town. The lights got removed a few years back.

 

[Fanatical Pragmatist]

Did the whole Halloween bar scene Friday night. No fucks were given. Not one person wearing any kind of COVID-related mask, but a lot of foot traffic and people in costume. Only slightly larger volume than last year, but it might have to do with Florida vs Georgia football game in town.
Hosted a Halloween party last night, better turnout than last year.
Nobody really trick-or-treats in our neighborhood, but while taking out the trash I noticed kids in costumes getting into vehicles with their parents, so I imagine they are all headed to neighborhoods that do it.

I am interested to know what the situation is up in Blue States now that High Science Priest Fauci has blessed Halloween for the moment.

Could you link that report?

Here.
P-values are down at the bottom.

@LaxerBRO brought up some issues with it here: https://kiwifarms.net/threads/wuhan-coronavirus-megathread.65421/page-3179#post-10328030
I brought up other issues here: https://kiwifarms.net/threads/wuhan-coronavirus-megathread.65421/page-3180#post-10330467

 

[bippu_as_fuck_ls400]

COVID-19 vaccine mandate approaches with pushback from federal border authorities​

https://www.borderreport.com/health...oaches-with-pushback-from-border-authorities/ (https://archive.ph/CXDoB)
Excerpt:

Since the COVID-19 pandemic began, 11,920 federal CBP employees test positive for the coronavirus; 51 have died, according to CBP data.

Wow, that's a really lethal virus! It has killed 0.43% of the agents that caught it tested positive for it. Let's not forget all of the false positives.

 

[Art Kassul]

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i'm baked as shit and still immediately saw what's wrong with this

Everywhere you look you now see these despicable, conniving Indian janissaries. We are just like Britain now. Sad times ahead.

‘That's what getting everybody vaccinated is all about’: Buttigieg admits US supply chain issues won't end until pandemic does

US Transportation Secretary Pete Buttigieg predicted on Sunday that supply chain issues plaguing multiple industries at the moment are going to continue as long as the coronavirus pandemic does.

www.rt.com

‘That's what getting everybody vaccinated is all about’: Buttigieg admits US supply chain issues won't end until pandemic does​

Confronted about the supply chain issues by Fox News’ Chris Wallace – including the fact that standstills at the Port of Los Angeles have only worsened after it began operating on a 24/7 basis – Buttigieg could only say that businesses should expect relief from the issues when the pandemic ends as the problems are a “direct” results of the virus’ strain on the world.

Too bad they don't replace Buttigieg with some corrupt Indian striver. What it takes to not see his smarmy ass-lip face again would be fine.

I wonder if the Tobacco industry was only exposed because they made too many enemies. Maybe the new ideology of the 1960s needed to score an easy victory over the old culture it had supplanted, and smoking was the best target due to its provable material effects and its ubiquity from 1920-1960. It produces a tale of experts revolting against old money fat cats and exposing the web of lies they'd made, a lovely conquest mythology (so to speak) for the current decision-makers. Isn't it convenient that things like this serve to paint the industrial age as a time when the powerful recklessly trampled over both nature and the rest of humanity and caused more harm than they could possibly imagine? A great contrast with the modern way, insipid design by committee with all stakeholders accounted for (on paper at least).

Kind of like how Watergate was supposed to be some great triumph of investigative journalism, but the same people who did it now endorse every modern-day partisan hit job (except those from the right for obvious reasons) , and it gets clearer and clearer that it was just a well-executed move of the same type, stamped into the boomer consciousness by good timing. Either that, or all of this was common knowledge among the real right and I'm just politically drifting into their bubble and thinking that shit they've been saying since 1960 is somehow new. .

Nixon was doing a lot of ''drain the swamp" talk in regards to his second term. Having an America manned by someone without a kosher stamp on their forehead, one who they caught on tape naming them for what they are, was too much of a risk at that juncture. Israel could have easily been stomped into dust that that point, they needed their golem marching in the right direction. Of course Watergate was just as gay and fake as all the stupid crap they routinely pull nowadays.

 

[Milkshake Sniffer]

COVID-19 vaccine mandate approaches with pushback from federal border authorities​

https://www.borderreport.com/health...oaches-with-pushback-from-border-authorities/ (https://archive.ph/CXDoB)
Excerpt:


Wow, that's a really lethal virus! It has killed 0.43% of the agents that caught it tested positive for it. Let's not forget all of the false positives.

This article is a good example of the disingenuous deceptive propaganda typical in this subject area. It does not say that the 51 deaths were in consequence of contracting the Chinese Flu. It does not even say that the 51 (or any of that 51) were part of the 11920 that tested positive. It makes two (apparently) factual statements; 11920 positive tests, 51 deaths and invites the reader to link them without establishing any linkage.

All it actually says re the 51 is that over a period of almost two years (since our Chinese friends unleashed their gift to the world) 51 federal CBP employees have died. From all causes. It does not say how many federal CBP employees there are or how many typically die over a two year period which may be more or less than 51.

Does anyone else remember when being taught English language at school at pre teen level included comprehension exercises? I miss those days.

 

[Overly Serious]

That's an interesting theory. I think the world of the elites is far more cutthroat than is assumed. It's not hard to imagine them harming their own billionaires to look like heroes, since most people love to see politicians do something like slam the fatcats with giant fines. Hell, we're seeing it again with the oil industry where they have to play the villains to advance the environmentalist agenda which involves anything but saving the planet.

If this is true, then we just need to wait 40-50 years to be proven right once again and watch Pharma get slapped with massive fines and some sort of law that allows aging survivors of vaccinations to receive at least some compensation. Unfortunately, that'll just hand some politicians, journos, and "experts" a free victory that they'll use to further entrench themselves and do god knows what with.

I really want to believe that Watergate was a short era when American politics (and maybe Western politics as a whole) tried to be more honest (late 60s - early 90s), since it was the same era that saw a bunch of state political machines dismantled/get restricted to local places and politicians get nailed for corruption (like Abscam), but you're probably right. Watergate and a lot of corruption investigations could have just been a way to get the boomers/silent generation (i.e. turbo-boomers) into politics while purging the older generation i.e. shit they'll never subject themselves to. No surprise all these "young and promising" politicians like Joe Brandon, Dianne Feinstein, Dick Cheney, etc. first popped up in the 70s.

I suspect there were plenty of people aware of this at the time and with views similar to ours. But they are buried and ignored so that a generation or two later, people approach the "known" facts and say 'hey, we know better now'. I wonder if two or three generations from now, people will look at the vaccines and say: "hey, these pharma companies knew all along the vaccines were no good," and think their generation is the first to realise it rather than this being something most people know today but don't get covered by the media.

Separately, this was a few weeks ago so might have been covered but I only just saw it:

Welsh Senedd Passes Vaccine Passports Plans as Zoom Error Prevents Tory MS from Casting Vote – The Daily Sceptic

Mark Drakeford's plans to mandate vaccine passports for nightclubs and other 'large' events have passed through the Welsh Senedd after a Zoom failure prevented a Tory MS from casting his vote.

dailysceptic.org

Welsh Senedd Passes Vaccine Passports Plans as Zoom Error Prevents To…

archived 6 Oct 2021 13:11:01 UTC

archive.md

Labour's Covid pass plan approved by Senedd after farcical scenes

Labour's plan was only approved by the Senedd as a Tory MS could not get onto Zoom

www.walesonline.co.uk

Labour succeeds with plan to introduce Covid passes in Wales after fa…

archived 6 Oct 2021 03:25:54 UTC

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Basically, vaccine passports passed by one vote in Wales, due to an anti-passport Tory MP's Zoom connection not working so he couldn't vote against it. Apparently the relief on the chair's face was obvious when he couldn't join. Later said: it's his responsibility to make sure he can join in good time. Yes, and whose rules is it that prevent him from showing up physically? There's so much that can go wrong or be invisibly sabotaged with this stuff, democracy shouldn't be dependent on IT support or people might decide that turning the Government on and off again a few times is their only option.

@jje100010001 Is there any way to know where these lots are going? It may be difficult to determine much about whats in them but if we see benign lot #xyz was sent to DC and high side-effect lot #abc went to rural Virginia and so on, it would be instructive as to whether this was poor quality control or deliberate.

 

[The Valeyard]

Australia’s first case of the new COVID-19 variant known as ‘Delta Plus’ has been detected in hotel quarantine in NSW

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Spoiler: Article Text

The first case of a new offshoot of the COVID-19 Delta variant has been detected in Australia for the first time.

The ‘Delta Plus’ variant ,formally known as ‘AY.4.2’, is the fastest-growing coronavirus strain in the United Kingdom.

The variant was uncovered in New South Wales hotel quarantine and is so far the only case of the variant detected in Australia.

But with international borders opening in just weeks, experts warn more cases of this variant may emerge.

The emergence of ‘Delta Plus’ in NSW comes after Australia’s Chief Health Officer Professor Paul Kelly addressed the variant last week following increasing speculation.

“Just to be clear, this is not a new variant, it is not a variant of concern or even of interest at the moment but we continue to have that very close vigilance of the international situation, to watch out for what next variant may come from this virus,” Kelly told reporters.

“In the UK there is a lot of circulating virus there, mainly in teenagers, they have re-commenced school at the moment.

“A lot of cases in teenagers and their parents, that is where the majority of the 49,000 cases I think yesterday, but very importantly, there has not been the same sort of rises we have seen in previous waves into the UK in relation to hospitalisations or deaths and that is because vaccination rollout in the UK has also been very successful.”

What is Delta Plus?​

We had been warned that the COVID virus would mutate.

It became the Delta variant - a highly transmissible strain, that has spread across the globe.

And now, the world is watching on to see just what impact the new Delta Plus variant will have.

The variant was first reported in a Public Health England bulletin on June 11.

Some experts say the ‘delta plus’ (A.Y.4.2) variant appears to be 10 to 15 per cent more transmissible than the original Delta variant and could be a factor in the rising case numbers in the UK. However, an official analysis is yet to be completed.

The World Health Organisation (WHO) said in a statement they are consistently monitoring new variants of COVID-19.

“WHO and its international networks of experts are monitoring changes to the virus so that if significant amino acid substitutions are identified, we can inform countries and the public about any changes that may be needed to respond to the variant, and prevent its spread,” the statement read.

“Current strategies and measures recommended by WHO continue to work against virus variants identified since the start of the pandemic.”

As NSW and Victoria continue with their reopening plans, experts say there’s no reason to slow or halt the easing of restrictions.

“As long as this virus has opportunities to keep infecting people, we’re going to see more variants popping up,” University of Sydney virologist Dr Megan Steain told The Age.

“We can’t be panicking every time we see a few more mutations.”

Medical microbiologist Dr Norelle Sherry also added that the variant is “not hugely worrying at this stage”.

“The apparent increased growth rate of this virus, compared to Delta, is still much less than the differences between the Alpha and Delta variants,” she explained to News Corp.

“That was a much bigger jump, compared to what we’re seeing between Delta and AY. 4.2.”

Vaccinated easily transmit Delta, says UK study​

The Delta variant can transmit easily from vaccinated people to their household contacts, a British study suggests, although contacts are less likely to get infected if they are vaccinated themselves.

The Imperial College London study illustrates how the highly transmissible Delta variant can spread even in a vaccinated population.

The researchers underlined that did not weaken the argument for vaccination as the best way of reducing serious illness from COVID-19 and said booster shots were required.

They concluded infections in the vaccinated cleared more quickly but the peak viral load remained similar to the unvaccinated.

“By carrying out repeated and frequent sampling from contacts of COVID-19 cases, we found that vaccinated people can contract and pass on infection within households, including to vaccinated household members,” Anika Singanayagam, co-lead author of the study, said.

“Our findings provide important insights into... why the Delta variant is continuing to cause high COVID-19 case numbers around the world, even in countries with high vaccination rates.”

The study, which enrolled 621 participants, concluded that of 205 household contacts of people with Delta COVID-19 infection, 38 per cent of household contacts who were unvaccinated went on to test positive, compared to 25 per cent of vaccinated contacts.

Vaccinated contacts who tested positive for COVID-19 on average had received their shots longer ago than those who tested negative, which the authors said was evidence of waning immunity and supported the need for booster shots.

Imperial epidemiologist Neil Ferguson said that the transmissibility of Delta meant that it was unlikely the United Kingdom would reach “herd immunity” for long.

“That may happen in the next few weeks: if the epidemic’s current transmission peaks and then starts declining, we have by definition in some sense reached herd immunity but it is not going to be a permanent thing,” he told reporters.

“Immunity wanes over time, it is imperfect, so you still get transmission happening, and that is why the booster program is so important.”

- with AAP

 

[z0mb0]

live in a largely blue/purple state, less than usual amount of trick or treaters out but still good turnout. Saw a hamplanet (because of course she was) out patrolling kids to berate them on not masking up properly until her soyman noticed they had attracted the attention of a few of the other chaperones/parents.

If this is true, then we just need to wait 40-50 years to be proven right once again and watch Pharma get slapped with massive fines and some sort of law that allows aging survivors of vaccinations to receive at least some compensation. Unfortunately, that'll just hand some politicians, journos, and "experts" a free victory that they'll use to further entrench themselves and do god knows what with.

I really want to believe that Watergate was a short era when American politics (and maybe Western politics as a whole) tried to be more honest (late 60s - early 90s), since it was the same era that saw a bunch of state political machines dismantled/get restricted to local places and politicians get nailed for corruption (like Abscam), but you're probably right. Watergate and a lot of corruption investigations could have just been a way to get the boomers/silent generation (i.e. turbo-boomers) into politics while purging the older generation i.e. shit they'll never subject themselves to. No surprise all these "young and promising" politicians like Joe Brandon, Dianne Feinstein, Dick Cheney, etc. first popped up in the 70s.

Always thought it was interesting how most major crime organizations from that time would take a hit before the local/regional political machines were taken apart and the ones that skated by had children or friends who got into polotics.

‘That's what getting everybody vaccinated is all about’: Buttigieg admits US supply chain issues won't end until pandemic does

US Transportation Secretary Pete Buttigieg predicted on Sunday that supply chain issues plaguing multiple industries at the moment are going to continue as long as the coronavirus pandemic does.

www.rt.com

‘That's what getting everybody vaccinated is all about’: Buttigieg admits US supply chain issues won't end until pandemic does​

Too bad they don't replace Buttigieg with some corrupt Indian striver. What it takes to not see his smarmy ass-lip face again would be fine.

A fag wanting to inject people with somthing that gives them an autoimmune disorder? unheard of.