US Joe Biden News Megathread - The Other Biden Derangement Syndrome Thread (with a side order of Fauci Derangement Syndrome)

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Let's pretend for one moment that he does die before the election, just for the funsies. What happens then? Will the nomination revert to option number 2, aka Bernie Sanders? Or will his running mate automatically replace him just the way Vice-President is supposted to step in after the Big Man in the White House chokes on a piece of matzo? Does he even have a running mate yet?
 
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Kane Lives said:
Haha nope. No opinion on this exceptional creature either, except he was a laughing stock for a bit when the coup went down. (It shouldn't surprise anyone that SEAsians are a fractious lot that likes to poke fun at each other... sometimes very seriously).
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Yeah, that whole situation is weird. kdk enough about Thai politics but I suspect that the army's just kicking the can down the road.

okay, not to pl you, but are you in Singapore or Malaysia? I can't imagine we have a presence in the former French Indochina, unless you're counting Indonesia and the Philippines as SE Asia
 
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Vaclav said:
If the Dems start caving on Covid they're ruined. The fear of the virus is the strongest card they have in their hand, it's one of the issues they're most trusted on. They've done a good job planting the narrative in people's minds that "Trump fumbled the virus response and hundreds of thousands died, Biden is the only hope to stop it."

If they backtrack on the mandates, Covid fear will no longer be a viable instrument to control people. The mandates and the doomer Fauci press conferences are what maintain their hold on people's minds. If they start to backtrack and say "maybe it's okay to work without a vaccine after all" then any future fearmongering attempt will be crippled as people start to notice how the virus is sometimes a deadly threat requiring us to upend our lives and sometimes it might as well not exist.

This is one of the main reasons they go so hard on mandates and Covid restrictions, they have to maintain the narrative that the virus is a horrible deadly threat and if they let up on that even a little the house of cards will collapse and they'll be left trying to explain why they wrecked so many people's lives over a case of the sniffles. If they cave it'll be a huge blow to their influence over the public.
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I would agree, except I think tonight showed that they are already ruined on COVID.

I think they would have a better shot finding a lull in the spikes, declaring victory, and then just "strongly encouraging" but not mandating vaccines.

I don't think COVID is a positive for the Dems any more. They need to declare some sort of victory and hope everyone forgets quickly.
 
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jspit2.0 said:
Well, my definition differs.

I agree with you though, its a state they can bank on usually and if it goes so goes allot of other states.

Speaking of...Essex dropped the hammer. 72% in and it's erasing a good chunk of Murphy's deficit as I thought. Ciatrelli is at 25% there. Good news is, Salem is still out and Sussex hasn't dropped.
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In general, a "stronghold" is just an area where the advantage is so lopsided to one side to make assailing it very, very hard. Something like Califonia would be a star fort, armed with cannons on every inch, and a standing army in it. Unassailable. New Jersey is more of a motte and bailey, with a good-sized retinue. Hard to take, definitely well defended, but not unassailable.

Both are strongholds, just of very different magnitudes.
 
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Rustic Ruthenian said:
View attachment 2683413Sussex county is coming in.

ETA: Somerset also flipped to Jack.
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Every map I see like this for a lot of states is a great argument for state level electoral colleges. The left has been packing cattle into certain area for half a century and it swings states away from what the productive areas actually want.
Vaclav said:
If the Dems start caving on Covid they're ruined. The fear of the virus is the strongest card they have in their hand, it's one of the issues they're most trusted on. They've done a good job planting the narrative in people's minds that "Trump fumbled the virus response and hundreds of thousands died, Biden is the only hope to stop it."

If they backtrack on the mandates, Covid fear will no longer be a viable instrument to control people. The mandates and the doomer Fauci press conferences are what maintain their hold on people's minds. If they start to backtrack and say "maybe it's okay to work without a vaccine after all" then any future fearmongering attempt will be crippled as people start to notice how the virus is sometimes a deadly threat requiring us to upend our lives and sometimes it might as well not exist.

This is one of the main reasons they go so hard on mandates and Covid restrictions, they have to maintain the narrative that the virus is a horrible deadly threat and if they let up on that even a little the house of cards will collapse and they'll be left trying to explain why they wrecked so many people's lives over a case of the sniffles. If they cave it'll be a huge blow to their influence over the public.
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If they do not cave they will be crushed figuratively or literally. Going to be really something when utility and water company workers start walking off the job.
 
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Gehenna said:
No,

Just no.

Pelosi had a successor lined up, but he got ousted by AOC in 2019. There hasn't been enough -time- to groom a successor. There is absolutely nobody lined up who even has the basic qualifications, let alone who can handle the progs.
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To that end, wouldn't the Progs gain ground over the Establishment by actually having a core set of beliefs and youth?
 
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soy_king said:
Yeah, that whole situation is weird. kdk enough about Thai politics but I suspect that the army's just kicking the can down the road.

okay, not to pl you, but are you in Singapore or Malaysia? I can't imagine we have a presence in the former French Indochina, unless you're counting Indonesia and the Philippines as SE Asia
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I actually do count both pinoys and indons as SE Asia. I didnt think you lot would see it different.

And yes, you have it correct. Not that it matters much; Malaysia's on an exceptional course to crash its economy ala Venezuala at the moment, and we're on our third unelected government so I can't even laugh at Filipinos for electing Duerte anymore. (:_(
 
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Kane Lives said:
I actually do count both pinoys and indons as SE Asia. I didnt think you lot would see it different.

And yes, you have it correct. Not that it matters much; Malaysia's on an exceptional course to crash its economy ala Venezuala at the moment, and we're on our third unelected government so I can't even laugh at Filipinos for electing Duerte anymore. (:_(
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All I know about Malaysia is that you jailed the main opposition leader for supposedly being a nonce and one of your sultans had to abdicate because of some drama with his crazy Russian model baby momma.
 
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Godzilla@1989 said:
This fucking nigga.

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The mainstream narrative for the next week or longer is that the public believes the right-wing lies about teaching CRT to kids. You KNOW the MSM will never admit that maybe the Dem policies are unpopular.
 
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Reminder that even though Florida in 2020 was red BEFORE the Panhandle came in, still saying Biden could still win it. Mostly praying that fortification would undo Miami Dade swinging hard.

These people would rather deglove themselves than admit defeat. Keep that in mind. Also the news are probably going to milk their audiences for what their worth.
 
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Gehenna said:
In general, a "stronghold" is just an area where the advantage is so lopsided to one side to make assailing it very, very hard. Something like Califonia would be a star fort, armed with cannons on every inch, and a standing army in it. Unassailable. New Jersey is more of a motte and bailey, with a good-sized retinue. Hard to take, definitely well defended, but not unassailable.

Both are strongholds, just of very different magnitudes.
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Something to think on.

soy_king said:
Sussex was only a matter of time. The real question is how many votes are left to count in Union, Hudson, Essex, Camden, and Passaic?
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Passaic appears to have swung hard right this time. Essex still has 28% and unless it's margins tighten it could make this too close to call.

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To that end, wouldn't the Progs gain ground over the Establishment by actually having a core set of beliefs and youth?
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I'll get hate for this, but youth burns fast. Progs are tomorrows conservatives/establishment. Very few people are Bernie Sanders and never become adults.

Look at Sinema. She's still liberal. But she's not crazy like she was a decade ago. Most people grow up.
 
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