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Grace Lavery / Joseph Lavery & Daniel M. Lavery / Mallory Ortberg - "Straight with extra steps" couple trooning out to avoid "dwindling into mere heterosexuality"
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It's probably related to the boundary pushing seen in the trans/queer/kink communities, and that uncomfortable movement from building your identity around several aspects of yourself to being first and foremost about sex, sex, sex, and also sex. Like doggy bondage at Pride, Joe doesn't need your consent to put his true and honest self out there to the world, so here's a sad manboob for you.
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Joe is going around begging people to debate him, waiting about 15 minutes, and declaring victory when they don't reply.
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Yet again, it's to prove some point about Kathleen Stock, who made a comment about wishing for public debate instead of backstabbing from colleagues.
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These are from THREE YEARS AGO. The absolute slide.
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Yet again, it's to prove some point about Kathleen Stock, who made a comment about wishing for public debate instead of backstabbing from colleagues.
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These are from THREE YEARS AGO. The absolute slide.
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Joe is obsessed with antagonizing women. They obviously don’t want to talk to you, stop @ing then like a crazy ex boyfriend and move on with your life. Notice how he specifies he won’t debate the two men he mentions because he wouldn’t get off on it.
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Given that he’s basically butting into women’s’ conversations, isn’t he guilty of “sea lion” tactics which are supposedly a big Thou Shalt Not among the “woke”?
Origin of the term in case you don’t remember http://wondermark.com/1k62/
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No, because in the world of the Woke he is a troo'n'honest woman and no one else cares about shit trends like that. Also remember "no bad tactics only bad targets".
Twiggez-Vous
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That's Joe? ? I thought that was Liz Taylor leaving rehab for the 89th time.
Helen Staniland, Sall Grover, and Helen Joyce have all offered to debate him. Three top class GC feminists.
This should be good, but he's kicking off now about the potential moderator.
Helen Joyce will take him to the cleaners, regardless.
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Dude has gotten fat, lol. He went from looking like HP Lovecraft to looking like a Lovecraftian monster.
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Wasn't he already kind of humiliated at the Heterodorx podcast? Why would he seek out another public debate with someone who is even more firmly in opposition to him?
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Joe is a debatebro and a narcissist. He thinks that he will spellbind the audience with his facts and logic and girlish charm. This is a guy who is so far gone that he thinks that his enemies are out to murder him. Delusion does not even begin to cover it.
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Because they think they are "on the right side of history", so in his mins .... facts be damn, his "trans" status should be enough to defeat any GC feminist just by calling them "TERF". He is gonna get his ass royally kicked, GC feminists know their stuff regarding Butler's Gender Performative Theory ( although right wingers know it even better ), they know the nooks and cranks of that pseudo-scientific "theory" and know how to shut a troon down. Joe doesn't stand a chance against Helen Joice or Kathleen Stock.
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Oh nooooooo, it's backfiring! Who could have predicted this?
Unfortunately, he's timing it for his book tour, so he probably thinks of it as win-win. God, what a disaster this will be.
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sounds like joe's got a real strong grasp on the principles of fascism
all I can say is, to the 1000 dollar hotel rooms, and the gucci handbags, and the townhouse apartments in two of the most expensive neighborhoods in the united states:
Hasta Siempre, Comandante! viva la revolucion
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After taking a victory lap over no GC person agreeing to debate with him, Joe was deluged with offers. 8 people said they were interested, according to Ovarit. The possible debaters include Sall Grover, Sarah Phillimore, Helen Joyce, Helen Staniland, the Women's Sex-Based Rights Caucus, Jo Phoenix, Jo Bartosch, and Julie Bindel. I believe Joe personally reached out to Helen Joyce and Julie Bindel.
Helen Joyce agreed to find a moderator to host an event, and Joe immediately decided it wasn't good enough.
Joe says Helen Joyce is slow-walking the debate details, while denying he ever suggested such a thing. While doing so, he changes word definitions about sixteen times.
There is a super long thread in which Joe objects to Helen's suggestion of Andrew Doyle (creator of the @TitaniaMcGrath parody account) as moderator because 1.) Joe is a former student of Andrew's, 2.) Joe thinks Andrew is a fascist, 3.) Joe once had a crush on Andrew, 4.) Andrew blocked him on Twitter, 5.) Andrew objects to being called a fascist, 6.) Joe thinks Andrew doesn't understand what a fascist is. It is so unhinged, y'all.
Joe is going to post screencaps of their DM thread tomorrow to prove he wasn't "nasty" (a gendered slur!!!!!!), even though he called Andrew "fashy."
Random archives for that (not the whole thing, just some proof texts):
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Not everyone is happy about the debate. Some see it as a bad idea to give a narc a platform.
Joe responds by accusing KiwiFarms of "stealing" his porn.
Helen Joyce agreed to find a moderator to host an event, and Joe immediately decided it wasn't good enough.
Joe says Helen Joyce is slow-walking the debate details, while denying he ever suggested such a thing. While doing so, he changes word definitions about sixteen times.
There is a super long thread in which Joe objects to Helen's suggestion of Andrew Doyle (creator of the @TitaniaMcGrath parody account) as moderator because 1.) Joe is a former student of Andrew's, 2.) Joe thinks Andrew is a fascist, 3.) Joe once had a crush on Andrew, 4.) Andrew blocked him on Twitter, 5.) Andrew objects to being called a fascist, 6.) Joe thinks Andrew doesn't understand what a fascist is. It is so unhinged, y'all.
Joe is going to post screencaps of their DM thread tomorrow to prove he wasn't "nasty" (a gendered slur!!!!!!), even though he called Andrew "fashy."
Random archives for that (not the whole thing, just some proof texts):
Prof. Grace Lavery: plz 2 order PLEASE MISS! 🤡 on Twitter: "Andrew D…
archived 8 Nov 2021 03:26:05 UTC
Prof. Grace Lavery: plz 2 order PLEASE MISS! 🤡 on Twitter: "My DMs a…
archived 8 Nov 2021 03:29:22 UTC
Prof. Grace Lavery: plz 2 order PLEASE MISS! 🤡 on Twitter: "People s…
archived 7 Nov 2021 15:33:44 UTC
Prof. Grace Lavery: plz 2 order PLEASE MISS! 🤡 on Twitter: "I just f…
archived 8 Nov 2021 03:53:14 UTC
Not everyone is happy about the debate. Some see it as a bad idea to give a narc a platform.
Joe responds by accusing KiwiFarms of "stealing" his porn.
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Russiahatesfags
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joseph, you mentally incapacitated retardate, screenshot this and frame it in your office so you remember it
when you keep going on about your stolen revenge porn you are alleging that:
you grace joseph lavery, photographed your girlfrend , daniel mallory lavery , for the purposes of creating pornography. you then posted that pornography of daniel mallory lavery to the internet on a public website accesible by everyone in the world, as an act of revenge against daniel mallory lavery.
is that what you did? you called it art in a public interview archived here., so no one can know it was anything but art. this is a sincere and genuine inquiry.
KF is legally reposting for the purposes of criticism (and one might argue, research and frankly edification, to bring atention to the plight of girlfrends around the world
this guy is a moron, he cant argue shit. god help those women
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Sounds like Joe is in a bit of a pickle. How will he get out of such a debate? He's already had covid, so that won't work. This porker really shouldn't get himself into situations like this. It's not good for his blood pressure.After taking a victory lap over no GC person agreeing to debate with him, Joe was deluged with offers. 8 people said they were interested, according to Ovarit. The possible debaters include Sall Grover, Sarah Phillimore, Helen Joyce, Helen Staniland, the Women's Sex-Based Rights Caucus, Jo Phoenix, Jo Bartosch, and Julie Bindel. I believe Joe personally reached out to Helen Joyce and Julie Bindel.
Helen Joyce agreed to find a moderator to host an event, and Joe immediately decided it wasn't good enough.
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Note that Joe says "let's organize this away from the cameras." This is easily interpreted as wanting to hold a private debate, though he explains he just wants to organize the event over email.
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Joe says Helen Joyce is slow-walking the debate details, while denying he ever suggested such a thing. While doing so, he changes word definitions about sixteen times.
There is a super long thread in which Joe objects to Helen's suggestion of Andrew Doyle (creator of the @TitaniaMcGrath parody account) as moderator because 1.) Joe is a former student of Andrew's, 2.) Joe thinks Andrew is a fascist, 3.) Joe once had a crush on Andrew, 4.) Andrew blocked him on Twitter, 5.) Andrew objects to being called a fascist, 6.) Joe thinks Andrew doesn't understand what a fascist is. It is so unhinged, y'all.
Joe is going to post screencaps of their DM thread tomorrow to prove he wasn't "nasty" (a gendered slur!!!!!!), even though he called Andrew "fashy."
Random archives for that (not the whole thing, just some proof texts):
Prof. Grace Lavery: plz 2 order PLEASE MISS! 🤡 on Twitter: "Andrew D…
archived 8 Nov 2021 03:26:05 UTCProf. Grace Lavery: plz 2 order PLEASE MISS! 🤡 on Twitter: "My DMs a…
archived 8 Nov 2021 03:29:22 UTCProf. Grace Lavery: plz 2 order PLEASE MISS! 🤡 on Twitter: "People s…
archived 7 Nov 2021 15:33:44 UTCProf. Grace Lavery: plz 2 order PLEASE MISS! 🤡 on Twitter: "I just f…
archived 8 Nov 2021 03:53:14 UTC
Not everyone is happy about the debate. Some see it as a bad idea to give a narc a platform.
Joe responds by accusing KiwiFarms of "stealing" his porn.
I can't wait to watch it, though. He's already getting his ass kicked on the "debate" over whether or not his opponents have "confirmed". I sure hope that his students are made aware of this debate. I'm sure many of them would be very eager to watch this trainwreck.
Stolen revenge porn or stolen porn (? -- seems more abusive than porn-ish) posted for revenge. Words have meaning Joe. Like "woman" or "adult human female" have very specific meanings.
Twiggez-Vous
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He and Mallory are discussing what to wear?! Like that is going to be his biggest worry?
Hope he goes for the Barbara Cartland cocktail frock , Doc Martens and five o'clock shadow combi.
My theory is that GC sentiment is so strong in the UK because we have a tradition of calling out the absurd, the self-important and self-unaware - most of our comedy relies on it!
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The post above that has the Twitter cap about giving "narc supply to a thoroughly US man" got me thinking, is he Not British anymore? When your own people back home reject you is funny enough lol. But, I've had a few friends marry someone from outside of the US and have to go thru immigration, in order for them to get married, even if they were here already (on a school or whatever hb12 visa thing that the pajeets all get to do IT here.) It got me thinking, did he get his green card before marrying Mallory? Or is he just here on a work visa get that is renewed? Because it's required to go thru immigration if u want your green card when u get married.
I haven't kept up with his status as an immigrant, can someone plz enlighten me?
I haven't kept up with his status as an immigrant, can someone plz enlighten me?
Aelfled
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On UK Twitter Joe is so little known and unimportant in the grand scheme of things that a huge number of GC women have no idea who he is or that he's British. They think "who?", look at his profile, see Brooklyn NY, and conclude "some random US creep". I didn't know he was British until watching a video of him speaking (in his completely male voice)
Joe thinks he's so important to GCs as a big famous target, but we couldn't care less.