The Linux Thread - The Autist's OS of Choice

[Splinters RCVD ✞]

Isn't he already?

Possibly yes, if this is how he behaves; just not in the crosshairs yet.

 

[Dr. Geronimo]

Me coming back to this thread to either ask basic tech support questions or bitch about how Linux is a war crime

 

[Ahriman]

Ok so speaking of Linus:

TL;DW he somehow broke his Pop!_OS install, went with Manjaro and had a much better experience. Luke went with Linux Mint, and as expected, 0 issues whatsoever.

I still don't understand what the Steam issue was on Pop, that could royally fuck your OS install. In his defense, all he tried to do was install Steam after being done configuring devices and hardware.

Still pretty fucking bad that such a bug has made it into the image. I can't expect a normie like Linus to run the equivalent of "apt update && apt upgrade" on Pop, and only then, install Steam. The whole thing looked like it was up and running for him, it's only reasonable that he'd go right ahead and install Steam with zero issues. Arch trannies messed up.

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[69ing Ur Mom]

Oh no, I've already understood for awhile that he's a terrible absentee parent. I just don't automatically believe the kid killed the cat because "it could've happened you know!"

The kid killing the cat makes more sense than the explanation Linus gave.

Ok so speaking of Linus:

TL;DW he somehow broke his Pop!_OS install, went with Manjaro and had a much better experience. Luke went with Linux Mint, and as expected, 0 issues whatsoever.

I still don't understand what the Steam issue was on Pop, that could royally fuck your OS install. In his defense, all he tried to do was install Steam after being done configuring devices and hardware.

Did you not see this post earlier in the thread? There was a warning that told him he was about to uninstall his desktop. He's either doing dumb stuff on purpose or he's just stupid.

 

[Spasticus Autisticus]

I just don't get what the fuck I did to piss off the linux gods.

I've noticed some distros don't do well when you're overwriting an existing Linux install. I've taken to wiping a drive clean with gparted before installing a new distro over an existing one. Of course you don't want to do this if you're multi-booting off the same drive, but that's a complicated setup anyway.

 

[Ahriman]

Did you not see this post earlier in the thread? There was a warning that told him he was about to uninstall his desktop. He's either doing dumb stuff on purpose or he's just stupid.

Guess I missed it.

Either way, many people are missing the point -- he later did the same thing on Manjaro, as in, installing Steam right after a fresh OS install boots up, and had no problems. Same deal with Luke. So it's a win for Manjaro and Linux Mint, but a really embarrassing fail for Pop. Pretty interesting glitch on Luke's desktop at the beginning as well, but managed to resolve it pretty well.

Anyways, why the fucking FUCK did a simple Steam install break the OS like that? why would attempting to try installing Steam would result in removal of desktop environment at the first place? it makes no gahddamn sense, that's the major gripe I have with the issue he's had, and not that it was a PEBKAC like many Loonix gurus insist on suggesting. The dude is more or less above a normie when it comes to tech stuff so you can imagine how the whole thing would have felt for any rando out there with 0 guidance.

And even more, "hurr durr why didn't he read"... bros, for a normie, a wall of text on a terminal looks scary as fuck, you all forget about it, but THAT is also the main reason people fear Linux, it's a 0 hand-holding experience, especially if you haven't dealt with the terminal. Even if the message was more or less intuitive, it doesn't change the fact that he was hit with a wall of text, and one that even for a normie wouldn't make sense; why would installing Steam would nuke his DE? for fuck's sake. He had no idea about the affected packages, nor he had to; he's a normie just testing out a new fancy OS. There is no situation in which installing a package should uninstall core system components, ever.

For all the shit Win10 people give it, it certainly does not royally break after a Steam install, right after a fresh OS installation.

A little introspection here, people.

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[Look over there]

Lol at that thumbnail.

 

[Ahriman]

I enjoy the roasting the Loonix tards are getting on /g/, I must say. So much coping going on.

I've read a reply on /g/ about some tard suggesting that "it was an easy fix, just switch to tty2"... you fucking nigger, do you expect a normie to know all that shit?! for fuck's sake.

 

[69ing Ur Mom]

Guess I missed it.

Either way, many people are missing the point -- he later did the same thing on Manjaro, as in, installing Steam right after a fresh OS install boots up, and had no problems. Same deal with Luke. So it's a win for Manjaro and Linux Mint, but a really embarrassing fail for Pop. Pretty interesting glitch on Luke's desktop at the beginning as well, but managed to resolve it pretty well.

Anyways, why the fucking FUCK did a simple Steam install break the OS like that?

Let me reupload the image:

WARNING: The following essential package will be removed.
pop-desktop pop-session (due to pop-desktop)

How fucking stupid do you have to be to continue after reading that?

Stop apologizing for Linus. He's a grifting piece of shit that hates his own kids.

As soon as he's done milking the "challenge" for content, he's going straight back to windows. He'll talk shit about Linux because there is more money to pandering to Windows users because there is a larger market share.

He always chases the money, as seen by his use of Razor products.

Having used a couple Razor products in the past, they are the most over priced and worst computing products I have ever used. Razor makes pure shit and Linus could never be beat in a race to gargle Razor's balls.

 

[Ahriman]

Let me reupload the image:

View attachment 2703903


How fucking stupid do you have to be to continue after reading that?

Stop apologizing for Linus. He's a grifting piece of shit that hates his own kids.

As soon as he's done milking the "challenge" for content, he's going straight back to windows. He'll talk shit about Linux because there is more money to pandering to Windows users because there is a larger market share.

He always chases the money, as seen by his use of Razor products.

Having used a couple Razor products in the past, they are the most over priced and worst computing products I have ever used. Razor makes pure shit and Linus could never be beat in a race to gargle Razor's balls.

I am not apologizing. Read the entirety of my post instead of sperging out: there is no situation in which installing a package should uninstall core system components, EVER. Why the fuck would he know what "pop-desktop" and "pop-session" are?

It's a major fuck-up on Pop!_OS part, good thing it went much better with Manjaro.

 

[69ing Ur Mom]

I am not apologizing. Read the entirety of my post instead of sperging out: there is no situation in which installing a package should uninstall core system components, EVER. Why the fuck would he know what "pop-desktop" and "pop-session" are?

It's a major fuck-up on Pop!_OS part, good thing it went much better with Manjaro.

Linus has decades of computing experience. There is absolutely no defense for what he did.

He was told that he was about to uninstall "pop-desktop"

He shouldn't have known he was going to fuck shit up? Are you serious?

Linus couldn't be bothered to read, which isn't unsurprising because he can't be bothered to raise his own children.

 

[Ahriman]

Linus has decades of computing experience. There is absolutely no defense for what he did.

He was told that he was about to uninstall "pop-desktop"

He shouldn't have known he was going to fuck shit up? Are you serious?

Linus couldn't be bothered to read, which isn't unsurprising because he can't be bothered to raise his own children.

Oh look, I didn't know we have Pop!_OS shills on here.

Why the fuck would installing a package nuke the DE in the first place, hmm?

Cry about it.

EDIT: the designated plebbit board weighs in:

Linus Tech Tips switches his personal PC to Pop_OS. : pop_os

redd.it

 

[Spasticus Autisticus]

Also keep in mind to continue from that prompt you have to type that exact phrase in. It’s not one of those “hit Enter to get the default Y” or even simply the word “yes”, it’s a whole phrase. Either he knew it would fuck things up and just did it for the drama, or he’s actually that stupid. That said I’d also like to know how it’s possible that installing a Steam package can cause core packages to get removed.

 

[Ahriman]

And apparently, one of System76 devs had the fucking gall to blame Linus, instead of acknowledging that they fucked up their distro.

Jeremy Soller on Twitter: "I have heard that the following happened w…

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The last thing these fuckheads need is a dev blaming a user for their own fuck-ups. Later on, they acknowledged their fuck-up.

r/pop_os - Comment by u/jackpot51 on ”Pop OS Needs to Fix this”

516 votes and 323 comments so far on Reddit

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And the Pop shilling squad is out on full force, doing damage control:

[LTT] Linux HATES Me – Daily Driver CHALLENGE Pt.1 : linux_gaming

redd.it

 

[ditto]

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[Frail Snail]

Guess I missed it.

Either way, many people are missing the point -- he later did the same thing on Manjaro, as in, installing Steam right after a fresh OS install boots up, and had no problems. Same deal with Luke. So it's a win for Manjaro and Linux Mint, but a really embarrassing fail for Pop. Pretty interesting glitch on Luke's desktop at the beginning as well, but managed to resolve it pretty well.

Anyways, why the fucking FUCK did a simple Steam install break the OS like that? why would attempting to try installing Steam would result in removal of desktop environment at the first place? it makes no gahddamn sense, that's the major gripe I have with the issue he's had, and not that it was a PEBKAC like many Loonix gurus insist on suggesting. The dude is more or less above a normie when it comes to tech stuff so you can imagine how the whole thing would have felt for any rando out there with 0 guidance.

And even more, "hurr durr why didn't he read"... bros, for a normie, a wall of text on a terminal looks scary as fuck, you all forget about it, but THAT is also the main reason people fear Linux, it's a 0 hand-holding experience, especially if you haven't dealt with the terminal. Even if the message was more or less intuitive, it doesn't change the fact that he was hit with a wall of text, and one that even for a normie wouldn't make sense; why would installing Steam would nuke his DE? for fuck's sake. He had no idea about the affected packages, nor he had to; he's a normie just testing out a new fancy OS. There is no situation in which installing a package should uninstall core system components, ever.

For all the shit Win10 people give it, it certainly does not royally break after a Steam install, right after a fresh OS installation.

A little introspection here, people.

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You linked the Reddit threads yourself, people figured it out there. Steam's build process was broken for a short time and had wrong dependencies as a result. QA didn't catch it, Linus had bad luck and didn't do a full update of the system after install and so the shitshow began. Lessons here: have a package update prompt be the first page of the guided tour on first boot (from the distro side), don't brute force an install expecting it to just work (from Linus' side). Ironically enough, despite not being labeled as beginner friendly, Arch wouldn't have this particular problem because partial upgrades are heavily discouraged. But it has its own downsides and Manjaro isn't a solution.

People give Windows shit generally for being an infuriating black box when you want to do something unorthodox. You're not going to get the Windows experience on Linux, which is setting up false expectations. Both people like Linus and the shills who talk about replacing Windows. You don't replace anything, you learn a new OS. People who don't understand that are worse than WoWfugees. Drop your expectations to the level of when you first started learning how to use Windows. I have vague memories of breaking stuff in the process. Obviously that would make for stale Youtube content, but I am talking about people, not bugman influencers.

I also disagree that Linus is "more or less above a normalfag". If that was the case, people who unbox and review Android smartphones would be fucking AOSP-based OS experts. He's the Genius Bar of his niche, maybe with a little more credentials.

 

[WeWuzFinns]

Most linux distros lack the maturity and polish the more well established operating systems such as windows, mac or android have. Because the software developers are volunteers no one is paid to do the mundane shitwork of making sure everything works well and the devs only focus on the more exiting suff like building new features.

 

[Never Scored]

Most linux distros lack the maturity and polish the more well established operating systems such as windows, mac or android have. Because the software developers are volunteers no one is paid to do the mundane shitwork of making sure everything works well and the devs only focus on the more exiting suff like building new features.

Android is a Linux distro.

 

[Ahriman]

You linked the Reddit threads yourself, people figured it out there. Steam's build process was broken for a short time and had wrong dependencies as a result. QA didn't catch it, Linus had bad luck and didn't do a full update of the system after install and so the shitshow began. Lessons here: have a package update prompt be the first page of the guided tour on first boot (from the distro side), don't brute force an install expecting it to just work (from Linus' side). Ironically enough, despite not being labeled as beginner friendly, Arch wouldn't have this particular problem because partial upgrades are heavily discouraged. But it has its own downsides and Manjaro isn't a solution.

People give Windows shit generally for being an infuriating black box when you want to do something unorthodox. You're not going to get the Windows experience on Linux, which is setting up false expectations. Both people like Linus and the shills who talk about replacing Windows. You don't replace anything, you learn a new OS. People who don't understand that are worse than WoWfugees. Drop your expectations to the level of when you first started learning how to use Windows. I have vague memories of breaking stuff in the process. Obviously that would make for stale Youtube content, but I am talking about people, not bugman influencers.

I also disagree that Linus is "more or less above a normalfag". If that was the case, people who unbox and review Android smartphones would be fucking AOSP-based OS experts. He's the Genius Bar of his niche, maybe with a little more credentials.

In his normie mind, even if he had read the message, there was no reason to believe Steam would fuck up his graphical stack like that, he might very well have thought that Steam would update some components so it was okay to say "yes" to the prompt, so it's still a cope.

Also,

"-Hey friend, I finally made the jump, installed Pop OS but I can't install Steam"
"-Use the Pop store"
"-I tried it, didn't work"
"-Ok try opening up the terminal and use sudo instead"
[Minutes later]
"-Dude wtf, now I am sitting at a command prompt?!"

Under no circumstance you'd need to pull up the Terminal to install something as mundane as Steam, so any way you slice it, it's inexcusable.

The sub is in damage control mode, and its users high on copium.

EDIT: A Gnome dev has written a scathing blog post about System76's efforts to advance Pop!_OS.

System76: A Case Study on How Not To Collaborate With Upstream – Chris's Design & Development

Hahah really makes you think.

 

[Dr. Geronimo]

Android is a Linux distro.

The fact that nobody really knows that is proof of his statement though. Android has real, paid devs working on it and it shows.