Trainwreck The Empathic Nutritionist / Empathic Mamahood / Robyn Grogitsky-Ramirez / Luna Elva Ramirez / Glenn Ramirez / Atlas Glenn Standford Ramirez - Eyefucking Sociopath Selfie Addict Mother and Closeted Gymrat Pothead Father who use Instagram to Parade their Homemade Homunculus Tard Baby Created by their Refusal to Follow any Medical Oversights

Will Robyn actually go back to see the neurosurgeon in California?

  • Yes

    Votes: 26 12.2%
  • No

    Votes: 107 50.2%
  • Luna will die before the planned trip date

    Votes: 80 37.6%

  • Total voters
    213
  • Poll closed .
3. Apart from obviously being scammy bullshit, do we reckon the Healy even does anything? They could literally be flogging a plastic box with a few wires inside and programs empty of code for hundreds of $$$ and they wouldn't know any better.
This skeptic site linked upthread and the FDA clearance both say it's basically a TENS machine, which are only good for treating pain.
 
Luna is SO talkative and it's SO cute but clearly just too private to share in a video with sound.
She's giving magical incantations and using her head as an oracle. These gifts are on a need to know basis. Also her head has grown bigger.

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A recent study of two current BICOM equivalents found that they (a) failed to diagnose serious diseases in two seriously ill patients, (b) produced a clean bill of health for a corpse, (c) diagnosed a host of nonexistent health risks nine healthy volunteers, (d) generated no real differences between a wet towel and the volunteers, and (e) had wildly variable results with repeated tests of the wet towel and liver pate [4].

The Healy is said to be a portable descendant of the BICOM device.
This skeptic site linked upthread and the FDA clearance both say it's basically a TENS machine, which are only good for treating pain.
 
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Damn those poor teachers. Just stick the kid in a corner and let it seize all day while you work with the functional kids….
I don’t know too much about IEP’s but you’d be surprised at what passes for special education in this country.

I had a distant relative that was a severe potato. His mom was pretty quiet on what his diagnosis was but all she would say is that he had about the mental capacity of a three month old. She never said if it was genetic, a birth injury, or if she was doing drugs while pregnant. He pretty much could do about what Luna can, twitch his arms a bit, drool, and move his eyes. But he went to school from K-12 with IEP’s and even “graduated.” His mom pretty much knew he was a vegetable but as far as she was concerned it was a few hours a day she didn’t have to change his diapers, so “education” for him was just tax funded daycare. Eventually she let him choke to death on his drool at age 19.

So if someone in his condition could get an IEP I’m not sure why Luna can’t. Maybe whoever examined her sees her condition as terminal and that she will be dead before preschool, or Robyn isn’t telling the whole story. Something just isn’t adding up.
 
That face Robyn makes during her fakey sessions reminds me of the one my cat makes when she’s about to cough up a hair ball.
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I had the same question. Even if Robyn was approved for an IEP, what would the aide/teacher even do with her? A while back I found this forum post from someone working with a child that sounds a lot like Luna: http://www.proteacher.net/discussions/showthread.php?t=524850
I'm sorry; I understand that teaching is an underappreciated job and that writing an IEP for a profoundly developmentally disabled child is extremely difficult, but that thread is fucking horrifying. Considering the posters are educators with a certification in special education, I would sort of expect at least a modicum of professional discretion in the way they speak about their students. All of them write with nearly palpable disgust and irritation at having to deal with a kid who cannot help her circumstances in life, and the clear lack of understanding of her disabilities and their manifestations is really troubling. Nobody is forcing any of them to work with this student population. That poor little girl and others like her deserve so much better.
 
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I don’t know too much about IEP’s but you’d be surprised at what passes for special education in this country.

I had a distant relative that was a severe potato. His mom was pretty quiet on what his diagnosis was but all she would say is that he had about the mental capacity of a three month old. She never said if it was genetic, a birth injury, or if she was doing drugs while pregnant. He pretty much could do about what Luna can, twitch his arms a bit, drool, and move his eyes. But he went to school from K-12 with IEP’s and even “graduated.” His mom pretty much knew he was a vegetable but as far as she was concerned it was a few hours a day she didn’t have to change his diapers, so “education” for him was just tax funded daycare. Eventually she let him choke to death on his drool at age 19.

So if someone in his condition could get an IEP I’m not sure why Luna can’t. Maybe whoever examined her sees her condition as terminal and that she will be dead before preschool, or Robyn isn’t telling the whole story. Something just isn’t adding up.
I don’t blame her. If i were in that situation I’d honestly do the same on both accounts. It’s not fair for you or them to live that shitty life. And moms needing a break is so understandable even with normal kids, the maintenance in a forever infant is too much for me.
 
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I'm sorry; I understand that teaching is an underappreciated job and that writing an IEP for a profoundly developmentally disabled child is extremely difficult, but that thread is fucking horrifying. Considering the posters are educators with a certification in special education, I would sort of expect at least a modicum of professional discretion in the way they speak about their students. All of them write with nearly palpable disgust and irritation at having to deal with a kid who cannot help her circumstances in life, and the clear lack of understanding of her disabilities and their manifestations is really troubling. Nobody is forcing any of them to work with this student population. That poor little girl and others like her deserve so much better.
I didn’t get that impression at all. They seemed to be trying to help in a situation they are not equipped to help in.

Jails are not mental institutions, but they are full of schizophrenics and people with major mental heal problems. Similarly, schools are not hospitals but more and more parents think their brainless child can learn. . Teachers are not equipped to handle children as severely damaged as Luna. Special Ed teachers can help with teaching the activities of daily living-buttoning buttons, brushing teeth, saying hello to your table partner for kids with autism or other disabilities. The kids with normal brains are mainstreamed with an aide.

A child who can never think or learn and who could even die if another kid throws a ball and it hits them wrong does not belong in a regular school.

We need mental hospitals back, and we need places to either house severely disabled or give parents like Robyn a break. Schools can’t take care of such a profoundly damaged child.

They should be staffed by doctors and nurses, not police and teachers.

And while I didn’t read what you did in the tone, I wouldn’t blame them. If a person went to school to teach and end up a nurse they have a right to be frustrated.
 
I don’t know too much about IEP’s but you’d be surprised at what passes for special education in this country.

I had a distant relative that was a severe potato. His mom was pretty quiet on what his diagnosis was but all she would say is that he had about the mental capacity of a three month old. She never said if it was genetic, a birth injury, or if she was doing drugs while pregnant. He pretty much could do about what Luna can, twitch his arms a bit, drool, and move his eyes. But he went to school from K-12 with IEP’s and even “graduated.” His mom pretty much knew he was a vegetable but as far as she was concerned it was a few hours a day she didn’t have to change his diapers, so “education” for him was just tax funded daycare. Eventually she let him choke to death on his drool at age 19.

So if someone in his condition could get an IEP I’m not sure why Luna can’t. Maybe whoever examined her sees her condition as terminal and that she will be dead before preschool, or Robyn isn’t telling the whole story. Something just isn’t adding up.
Every child in America with a pulse and documentation proving their age is entitled to a public school education (starting at 3 for child with a disability, which Luna obviously has). She WOULD qualify for an IEP, something about what they were offering just doesn't suit Robin.
 
Based mom. It makes me sad we don't automatically euthanise babies that low functioning. The ancients were right and wiser than we appreciate.
Eventually she let him choke to death on his drool at age 19.
I like how they make up stuff with zero evidence like that forcing her hand to push or grasp something as a met outcome. What a joke. They're just like Luna's horrid physical therapist but even less trained. A teacher doesn't even really make sense for someone that profoundly retarded though. Maybe just give them a PT and OT?
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I'm sorry; I understand that teaching is an underappreciated job and that writing an IEP for a profoundly developmentally disabled child is extremely difficult, but that thread is fucking horrifying. Considering the posters are educators with a certification in special education, I would sort of expect at least a modicum of professional discretion in the way they speak about their students. All of them write with nearly palpable disgust and irritation at having to deal with a kid who cannot help her circumstances in life, and the clear lack of understanding of her disabilities and their manifestations is really troubling. Nobody is forcing any of them to work with this student population. That poor little girl and others like her deserve so much better.
What if they did an autopsy and the brain just all fell out like water onto the floor?
Her head is growing at an exponential rate right now. I think it’s gotten bigger in a span of days. I wonder if those big cysts feel soft and squishy or if it’s hard? And what would happen if too much pressure was applied to one?
 
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