Wuhan Coronavirus: Megathread - Got too big

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Remind me why they can't just create a vaccine the old fashioned way, of injecting people with a weakened version of COVID to help the immune system instead of some questionable mRNA vaccine where any talk of side effects or adverse reactions is suppressed?
Because you can't make money off of a problem that's been solved.

Also because you can't use this as a vehicle to push your tyranny if you solve it.
Because then they couldn't give you a 2nd shot, then a 3rd, then a 4th, and so on, every few months, and that is a huge loss of revenue. Gotta throw together some shit that you can patient. But big pharma is doing it for the love of humanity though.

Actually Sinovac, Sinopharm, Covaxin, and Valeneva are inactivated virus vaccines, and coronaviruses are uniquely suitable for a 'service update' system like with the flu shot, since the viruses mutate so quickly.

The issue is most likely regulatory capture (Pfizer, CDC), that the mRNA jabs were assembled first, and the fact that the initial inactivated virus vaccine (Sinovac) was mostly useless.

The strange issue is that mRNA and DNA jabs also promised this 'service update' system, but so far the commercial Comarity version of Pfizer's jab is still unavailable- yet everyone is still being jabbed with the original Wuhan spike protein data, which is nearly extinct by now.

Why? I think that the promised systems are not working as desired at the moment, as if it worked, they'd have probably figured out a way to update the booster spike protein data for the Delta variant. Remember- the weasels all died!

My team and coworkers all got their shots generally around the beginning of this last summer when the gaslight campaign really ramped up the weird incentives like free donuts, coffee, extra one-time extra bonus hours on paycheck, shit like that. Can't really say when though, not my place to ask nor did I want to know.*

As for my friend, he got the vid twice before the getting jabbed around... I want to say June or July. Pretty similar to the coworkers situation. He's never really taken care of himself consistently, his idea of weight control is to lose a bunch and then gorge on steak until he glistens with meat sweats.
Interesting- do you know what jabs they got? Probably information they didn't tell you, but I think worth knowing to build up a profile.
 
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How do you even recognize we have a pandemic?
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Ya so Ireland we have serious high vaxx uptake serious high covid rate - in my house now as posted earlier - this article jumps out at me - 40% unvaccinated meaning 60% are vaccinated. Am I reading that wrong or is that grim. Now they saying we should self fund four antigen tests a week at like 8 euro a pop. Right https://www.thejournal.ie/coronavirus-cases-confirmed-11-november-5598710-Nov2021/
It's following the exact same pattern as the UK. Shortly after the vaccine rollout they made a big deal of how the majority of hospital patients were unvaccinated, then it slowly started to drop and now the balance has tipped. Some public health official in England quoted the same 60/40 ratio in July but given that covid is seasonal we might catch up faster. I expect they'll stop quoting numbers soon because they won't be able to say there's a disproportionate number of unvaxed in hospitals for much longer.
 
Interesting- do you know what jabs they got? Probably information they didn't tell you, but I think worth knowing to build up a profile.
I never directly asked because I practice what I preach: don't ask me medical questions, I won't ask you even more uncomfortable questions in response. But mostly pfizer, from general conversation where it slips out.
 
I never directly asked because I practice what I preach: don't ask me medical questions, I won't ask you even more uncomfortable questions in response. But mostly pfizer, from general conversation where it slips out.
Not too surprised, since Pfizer is publicly considered 'the best one', though I have some doubts as they also seem to be the most prominently and politically-connected of all the pharma companies.

If anyone is interested, a Telegram group for Australia healthcare whistleblower experiences: https://t.me/FrontlineworkersSpeakOut

Attached is their latest report:

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Sorry if someone else might already mentioned it. This is from a site less well known then Breitbart, ZeroHedge and co. but it might be worth to check and if there's some truth in it. I think the governor of Minnesota isn't the only one who practice the "coronafear".
A whistleblower has leaked an email exchange dating to October 2020, in which the Chief of Staff to Minnesota Governor Tim Walz tells the state’s Department of Health that the Department’s numbers on how covid was spreading were “less useful than what I expected” because “these numbers are small.” The Commissioner of Health said, in turn, that “people look at the primary case numbers and think those are small impacts that don’t justify the dial backs we propose.” She urges her staff to engage in “creative thinking.”
 
gonna do some powerlevel but saw the new propaganda, they were claiming the european surge was cause by ''low'' vaccination rate. A doctor highly encouraged pregnant women to get the vax. Also claimed the country with low vaccination were far right. Mom like usual swallowed everything. I can't take it anymore, I just want to take an axe and ram it right on the TV like the marylin manson video clip. Ok let do some deboonking
 
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gonna do some powerlevel but saw the new propaganda, they were claiming the european surge was cause by ''low'' vaccination rate. A doctor highly encouraged pregnant women to get the vax. Mom like usual swallowed everything. I can't take it anymore, I just want to take an axe and ram it right on the TV like the marylin manson video clip. Ok let do some deboonking
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Nothing to see here goyim, it's the heat you see! Please consume bugpaste

Pushing this dogshit product on young children and pregnant women is evil incarnate.
 
Good news on my front, OBGYN has backed off completely about me getting jabbed. Mumbled something about how he occasionally checks the CDC website and he really glossed over his reasonings but he so spoke more about mask wearing (yup, definitely doc. Always wearing masks, that's me [not]).

I've had to be in several clinics/hospitals in the past month for various reasons and from what I've noticed is 1) covid vax is no longer acknowledged as a thing and 2) flu shot is more pressed upon even though it's only ever been between 30-60% effective. So that's interesting.
 
The way reddit brains use Darwin's name is perhaps the worst case of midwit scientism.
Don't get me started.
They invoke Darwinism as they demand that you wear a mask and get vaccinated to protect their fat asses from being selected out, then cry blasphemy when you suggest that the virus might adapt to spite vaccines.

Remind me why they can't just create a vaccine the old fashioned way, of injecting people with a weakened version of COVID to help the immune system instead of some questionable mRNA vaccine where any talk of side effects or adverse reactions is suppressed?
Supposedly because Coronaviruses mutate too fast there is a hypothetical risk that using a live virus the virus might just mutate back to wild-type strength (or stronger) and then you have basically just injected someone with a virus that could kill or maim them.

Now the issue with this is that using an mRNA/viral vector vaccine to replicate just one protein is that the virus mutates so damn fast it won't be long before it achieves immunity.
Which we are pretty much entering into that point now.

The most vulnerable age group is the 80+, how many 80+ Africans are there? It seems at a glance it's more of a matter that the virus can't kill a population that doesn't exist in that environment.
And the few that are >80y/o in Africa aren't exactly weaklings or deathfats either.
You don't survive to that age in Africa without a good immune system.
 
I think the most absurd thing is that in the popular consciousness all other diseases just vanished. The media talks about this meme flu like there were never diseases before and this is like the first one ever. It's so insulting.
Don't get me started.
They invoke Darwinism as they demand that you wear a mask and get vaccinated to protect their fat asses from being selected out, then cry blasphemy when you suggest that the virus might adapt to spite vaccines.
More like they demand you to wear a mask to make them feel better, because their little itty bitty status they get is the only thing that sets them apart from the unvashed masses. The reddit class is so annoying, they are like poor nobility who tries to do anything just to distance themselves from the average folks.
 
It's following the exact same pattern as the UK. Shortly after the vaccine rollout they made a big deal of how the majority of hospital patients were unvaccinated, then it slowly started to drop and now the balance has tipped. Some public health official in England quoted the same 60/40 ratio in July but given that covid is seasonal we might catch up faster. I expect they'll stop quoting numbers soon because they won't be able to say there's a disproportionate number of unvaxed in hospitals for much longer.
Problem is, the propaganda (and that's what it is now) works all too well. My dad, a very intelligent and otherwise sceptical man, is 100% on board with boosters for life. He and the arm candy got a nasty bout of the rona a couple of months back, despite being fully vaccinated, and it scared the bejeesus out of them, to the point that they're almost afraid to go outside. The rest of my family is on the train to some degree, either out of fear, apathy, or ignorance. It's understandable to an extent. They're all busy with their lives and don't have time to dig into the details of it, unlike the autists resident here, but it's frustrating how they refuse to even consider alternatives and possibilities. They're blindly trusting the government and media when they've had in-your-face proof that both are incompetent, conniving, lying, venal cunts, who would sell you into slavery and eat their own shit if they thought it could make them tuppence.

The interrogations have started. Subtly. I've held that medical issues are off-limits for a few years already, but they're starting to push anyway.

I have to assume that my family is within the average rather than being an outlier. On that limited experience, I have to further assume that most people continue to be poorly informed and unwilling to look further into the information that is readily available to them. The annoying part is, this isn't a novel thought. People are lazy. They take the first bit of information they receive and assume it's the truth, and then refuse to consider updates and alternatives that contradict it. Sort of like our immune systems. Food for thought.

I don't want to see my dad on a vent. I've said as much to him in thelast couple of months: whatever happens, don't let them put you on a vent. I'm fucking terrified that he'll let them do it.
 
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I think the most absurd thing is that in the popular consciousness all other diseases just vanished. The media talks about this meme flu like there were never diseases before and this is like the first one ever. It's so insulting.
Really? I've noticed the opposite.

I had a friend, an otherwise smart dude studying to be a vet, share shit comparing COVID to Variola major. Like actually insinuating the diseases were at all comparable.

The number of stupid consoomer memes comparing covid-skeptic behavior to a hypothetical zombie apocalypse were also a big thing for awhile.

More like they demand you to wear a mask to make them feel better, because their little itty bitty status they get is the only thing that sets them apart from the unvashed masses. The reddit class is so annoying, they are like poor nobility who tries to do anything just to distance themselves from the average folks.
Yeah, that's true too.
 
Man Ray: *shows the jews being turned into second class citizens in germany* Is this tyranny and oppression?
"Yes"
Man Ray: So going with that logic, going with lockdowns only for the unvaccinated not only is illegal but immoral too, opening the door for history to repeat itself.
"Sounds reasonable to me"
Man Ray: THEN ADMIT IT IS WRONG!
"Everyone should do what Austria is doing. Rain those mandates"
Man Ray: *steaming with anger*
 
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The number of stupid consoomer memes comparing covid-skeptic behavior to a hypothetical zombie apocalypse were also a big thing for awhile.
Actually a year or two before this covid mixtape dropped there were a lot of astroturfed(?) antivaxxer memes on Reddit. Most likely conscience, but vaccinations weren't topical back then, and memes usually need something irl to resonate with.
Yeah, that's true too.
It's one of the reasons why some people are impossible to convince about anything. They would rather go down burning with their own ship instead of leaving it.
 
I had a friend, an otherwise smart dude studying to be a vet, share shit comparing COVID to Variola major. Like actually insinuating the diseases were at all comparable.
The popular one around my way is polio. Of course a neurological disease with an up to 50% infection fatality rate, with the survivors nearly always coming out with some level of paralysis, is comparable to a respiratory disease that kills a fraction of a percent of its hosts.
 
Actually a year or two before this covid mixtape dropped there were a lot of astroturfed(?) antivaxxer memes on Reddit. Most likely conscience, but vaccinations weren't topical back then, and memes usually need something irl to resonate with.
Yeah those do seem astroturfed in hindsight, but there is a difference between making fun of crazy women who think essential oils will protect their kids from measles, and giving their teenage sons myocarditis to save some unknown, unnamed hypothetical boomers.

The popular one around my way is polio. Of course a neurological disease with an up to 50% infection fatality rate, with the survivors nearly always coming out with some level of paralysis, is comparable to a respiratory disease that kills a fraction of a percent of its hosts.
That one too.
I started seeing blog-tier posts larping as actual articles trying to say "AKYCHUALLY, COVID IS DEADLIER THAN POLIO!" and of course the numbers don't add up...
 
It's one of the reasons why some people are impossible to convince about anything. They would rather go down burning with their own ship instead of leaving it.

Its both ego and demoralization.

Also like Ares from Billy and Mandy said once "Brainwashing doesnt work with those that can think for themselves"
 
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