Kyle Rittenhouse Legal Proceedings - Come for the trial, stay for….

What do you think will happen?

  • Guilty on all charges

    Votes: 282 8.8%
  • Full Acquittal

    Votes: 1,077 33.7%
  • Mistral

    Votes: 264 8.3%
  • Mixture of verdicts

    Votes: 479 15.0%
  • Minecraft

    Votes: 213 6.7%
  • Roblox

    Votes: 132 4.1%
  • Runescape

    Votes: 203 6.3%
  • Somehow Guilty Of Two Mutually Exclusive Actions

    Votes: 514 16.1%
  • KYLE WILL SUBMIT TO BBC

    Votes: 35 1.1%

  • Total voters
    3,199
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Guys I know the trick to make the trial quicker. Flush ice cubes down the toilet, wear your pajamas inside out and put a spoon under your pillow.

Woah, I never thought about that...
Blowing my mind over here.
Does this give you even the slightest clue why this case isn't getting much mainstream coverage?
 
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Out of college and through law school I worked at a big midwest city courthouse in the scheduling department. So I was always working with juries and the policy and procedures around them. Why this jury wasn't sequestered is beyond me. It's not like this trial was going to take months to finish. Without a doubt in my mind if they sequestered this jury and did it right he would've been not guilty almost immediately. You can't tell me that these jurors are going home and not looking at their phones or TV. You know their families are talking to them and they are giving the classic "don't tell anybody this....but" answers to everything they ask. It really screws defendants and with the media attention on this trial it should've been done.
To be fair, I don't think sequestering is that common, and coverage was pretty quiet until the trial actually started. I don't think they could have predicted what a circus it would become. They weren't really having problems until the final pre-trial stuff with the ruling about whether or not the people Kyle shot could be referred to as victims. Even then things were going fairly smoothly until the prosecution started violating rulings about what was admissible and infringing on constitutional rights. Requiring the judge to halt proceedings to yell at the prosecution. Which is what really got the media and social media going about how the judge was "biased" in favor of Kyle, and hanging on everything the judge said to twist it into accusations that he was biased, racist, etc. Again which in turn riled up people on social media into making threats towards the judge and jurors, call for riots and burnings if Kyle was acquitted, and caused people to actually turn up at the courthouse to protest.

I mean, unless you expect shit like people trying to twist the judge explaining that he lets the defendant pull from the box which jurors excluded from the final jury because of one time that the process kinda screwed a black guy by removing the only black juror in the pool into the judge being racist; then it's difficult ahead of time to see the need for sequestering the jury.
 
They are actually correct that it doesn't matter what Rosenbaum's criminal history is if Kyle didn't know it at the time. The issue is that they don't apply it evenly, even literally to the point where they're not applying that logic to Kyle while trying to do it to the people he shot. The correct take is that it doesn't matter if Kyle shot pedos or boy scouts, and it doesn't matter where Kyle lived, where he got the gun, or what shirt he wore after the event. it matters whether Kyle credibly perceived the people he shot to be a threat to his life when he did so, and whether he provoked their behavior first. I'm not even sure if it matters whether Kyle was correct in his perception, only whether he reasonably did perceive so.
 
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"Its like asking what she was wearing"
No you old fucking boomer bitch, saying that Kyle "shouldn't have been there" or "should have stayed home" or "shouldn't have crossed state lines" is equivalent to asking what she was wearing.

Its a public street, Kyle had every right to be there as did the commie criminal trio that tried to fucking kill him (and probably rape him too, in Pedobaum's case).

I'm not surprised to see braindead commie idiots defending a fuckin' chomo. It's disgusting seeing this whore lionize a goddamn child rapist but as I said unsurprising.

Even if Kyle gets convicted on everything at least there's one less child molester stealing my fucking oxygen.
 
He's from an era in which good faith still existed, in other words.
It is sad that era is gone now in law. Everyone in my family growing up were attorneys, I'm the only one out of my generation to do it. I work in environmental law now so it's boring and we rarely see a courtroom, but it wasn't long ago I was working in the criminal law world, not as an attorney, but in the behind the scenes world. I got to really see who judges and attorneys are as people. I met some terrible judges and attorneys but also some fantastic people. You're right, there's a balance needed of goodwill and slamming the hammer when it's needed, especially today. Giving people the benefit of the doubt today does not work anymore, you will get taken advantage of. It's one of the reasons I got out of that world to begin with. The sense of professional competition with a handshake after the trial among attorneys has been replaced with spite and petty bullshit.
 
It's telling how this trial completely overshadowed the Ahmaud trial.
Because this trial has greater implications for self-defense in the face of the mob.
When Kyle greased two attempted murderers and wounded another, it was all over the TV within hours. More importantly, it actually had an effect on future riots in the wake of the shooting.

The Arbery shooting only happened because of political pressure after twitteroids demanded the DA charge those involved with murder. Ahmaud Arbery was also just a local criminal doing his own thing who got a 12 gauge from some overzealous rednecks tired of him stealing their stuff, while Rosenbaum & Huber were part of a larger international political protest movement.
 
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Barnes is egotistical, arrogant, boastful, and most likely self centered. If somehow we get a guilty verdict I don't want to hear anyone currently batching about him ever again. Is he pissed that he got kicked off the defense team if he was ever on it, obviously. If Kyle is declared somehow guilty Barnes was obviously right and tbh a mistrial or hung jury might prove that too.
Much like a former (maybe legitimate?) president.

People bitch about mean tweets and personality. You should learn to get over it after 2020.

Barnes is no Trump, I’ll acknowledge. I’ll also acknowledge that Gehenna has personal experiences with him to justify their viewpoint. But at this point you could have easily taken his advice, told him to fuck off, then use it to avoid rogue jurors, Richards!
 
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In the black comedy version of this trial, instead of the jurors fighting constantly, they should be living it up in the deliberation room completely unaware of everyone outside of it sweating and sperging out including the lawyers and judge.
Ending scene is them trying to tell the bailiff they finally have a verdict, but the bailiff doesn't answer, so they step out the deliberation room and it's revealed everyone attempted a trial by combat because they were taking so long, and as a result everybody killed each other and the winner died from his wounds right after winning.
 
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