Kyle Rittenhouse Legal Proceedings - Come for the trial, stay for….

What do you think will happen?

  • Guilty on all charges

    Votes: 282 8.8%
  • Full Acquittal

    Votes: 1,077 33.7%
  • Mistral

    Votes: 264 8.3%
  • Mixture of verdicts

    Votes: 479 15.0%
  • Minecraft

    Votes: 213 6.7%
  • Roblox

    Votes: 132 4.1%
  • Runescape

    Votes: 203 6.3%
  • Somehow Guilty Of Two Mutually Exclusive Actions

    Votes: 514 16.1%
  • KYLE WILL SUBMIT TO BBC

    Votes: 35 1.1%

  • Total voters
    3,199
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My hypothesis is that the defense team sort of gave up on actually winning at trial. Schroeder is a very pro-prosecution judge, so that isn't a completely unwarranted strategy. It looks to me like they were trying to set things up for an appeal. They just assumed they would lose any motions to dismiss, etc., and then use those as the grounds for an appeal.

The problem is that the prosecution did a piss-poor job of actually prosecuting the case, including a serious Brady violation. The defense wasn't ready for the prosecution to be so incompetent. They have not been nimble enough to realize that they have a solid chance to win at the trial level and pivot to winning at trial instead just making a record for an appellate reversal.

I think they still have a chance to pivot to winning at trial if they are willing to do it. An aggressive motion to dismiss based on Fatlock's lies filed tonight will go a long way. Even if Schroeder is pro-prosecution, those kind of judges don't like sloppy and incompetent prosecutions. If the defense gets its shit together RIGHT NOW and puts together a solid motion that points to specific misconduct by the prosecution and how it specifically prejudiced the defense and links that misconduct to the shitshow the trial has become they have a good chance of success.

They need to put down their Rhinelanders and cheese curds and fucking write the motion RIGHT NOW and get it filed by midnight.
 
I am not sure we would be here if that were true.
Do Xi Xing Pei and Kim Jong Un seem like lefties to you? It's extremely common for a tyrant to co-opt some movement that gets them the support of the people to seize control, and then immediately abandon the ideals they pretended to espouse once they have it. The tyrannical wing of the government seems leftist now, but you can already see the cracks in their facade, as they funnel trillions not into the pockets of poor illegals and welfare moms but their own coffers and to bribing foreign governments. They pretend to be leftist because right now the leftists are the easiest to control and radicalize into what they want. Should they ever fully gain the control they want in the name of 'stopping those wrong think bad guys', they'll drop the facade completely. For immediate evidence of this, I point to how the conservatives had all the strength in the early 00s, and all the 'progressive, liberal' people these days insisted that 'marriage should be for a man and a woman only!'. When being conservative meant they could take away freedoms and torture people and get support, that's what they did. When W fell out of favor, they switched to appealing to the progressives so they could ban books and shoot citizens while looking like the good guys. As the conservatives dig in their heels to resist the authoritarianism, those elements push into liberalism and encourage political polarization all the more, but it's not because they actually believe in leftist ideals, it's because it's the side most likely to allow them to gain more power and strip more freedoms.

you can't give me puzzle pieces for text walls here. stickers cannot save you now.
 
We mock these people on Kiwifarms, but it should always be remembered they have no moral limits, and no conscience. That is their greatest strength, beyond the fact all the institutions of our rotten anti civilization are behind them.

That makes them dangerous, and you should treat these people seriously as clownish as they look and act.
Aren't these clowns we mock just pawns though? You'd think Yaniv would have won his lolsuit, and Rhys Mckinnon would be a regular commentator on MSNBC or some shit. It's not like we make lolcow threads on Larry Fink or other people who actually wield considerable influence in this shit. Of course the pawns get further in Clown World than otherwise, but the boost from the corrupt institutions is quite attenuated for such people.
 
no, it is very easy to turn these types into useful enforcers of the state once their personal ideology aligns with that of the state. hand them a uniform, give them a salaried position, and they will fall in line and follow orders just fine, as long as it means they get to occasionally brutalize the plebes.
You don't even really have to give him a position, just funnel some money at whatever formalized antifa militia group he's associated with and have the Ziminskis lead him around and set him loose at any right wingers that might still think to peacefully protest in a blue city at that point.
 
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Are they the two stubborn holdouts, perhaps? If they are, this gives me some hope for Kyle to walk (or maybe a hung jury) tomorrow or on Friday or however long this takes. I'm still cautiously optimistic, especially after the gun charge was dropped and there has been talk of two holdouts (perhaps these two want to convict, based on what I'm seeing here from Jack), but I'm not going to make any bold predictions.
 
Oh god, Bob will only ever double down. That one guy does the rundowns so I haven't been checking, how bad is Bob? Any highlights?
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He doubled down on this repeatedly and made multiple other errors about basic legal facts you could Wiki until he got distracted back to his normal ranting about the necessity of eliminating the inhuman garbage cluttering up America and enjoying Disney movies.
 
Are they the two stubborn holdouts, perhaps? If they are, this gives me some hope for Kyle to walk (or maybe a hung jury) tomorrow or on Friday or however long this takes. I'm still cautiously optimistic, especially after the gun charge was dropped and there has been talk of two holdouts (perhaps these two want to convict, based on what I'm seeing here from Jack), but I'm not going to make any bold predictions.
The "two holdouts" info was also from Poso. I'm inclined to believe him, but it's not confirmation of the "two holdouts" theory.
 
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He doubled down on this repeatedly and made multiple other errors about basic legal facts you could Wiki until he got distracted back to his normal ranting about the necessity of eliminating the inhuman garbage cluttering up America and enjoying Disney movies.
A really good comedy duo would be Binger and Moviebob as prosecutors
 
Problem is in this current scenario, we are the "communists"
Perhaps, but that's just the way the world works and people who say otherwise are complicit in both their own and the people who believe them's suffering. Communists were doing the same to their enemies everywhere else and are continuing to do so. Hitler simply understood that it was an either them or you situation so acted accordingly in the interests of his own people. In reality, Hitler was one of the very few elected leaders in history who actually represented those who elected him.
 
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He doubled down on this repeatedly and made multiple other errors about basic legal facts you could Wiki until he got distracted back to his normal ranting about the necessity of eliminating the inhuman garbage cluttering up America and enjoying Disney movies.
What is it with leftists like Movieblob and the undying obsession specifically with centralizing all power?

It doesn't seem like there should be any one ideology that inherently monopolizes that concept, but it seems to happen.
 
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He doubled down on this repeatedly and made multiple other errors about basic legal facts you could Wiki until he got distracted back to his normal ranting about the necessity of eliminating the inhuman garbage cluttering up America and enjoying Disney movies.
You are tried in the jurisdiction where you are charged. I do not see how Blob managed to pass high school US Government class in a way that didn't involve a clerical error.
What is it with leftists like Movieblob and the undying obsession specifically with centralizing all power?
The acquisition of power is literally all they care about.
 
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He doubled down on this repeatedly and made multiple other errors about basic legal facts you could Wiki until he got distracted back to his normal ranting about the necessity of eliminating the inhuman garbage cluttering up America and enjoying Disney movies.
A jury of your peers means a jury made up of people from your community, not people from a community totally different from the one you come from or where the alleged crime was committed.
Yes... they are posterboi commies...
thats what lefties want.

What leftist ideals do they push and enforce outside of communism? Xi tortures and imprisons people for being muslim or communicating with people not from China. He also organizes open gangrape of women by police officers and guards as a method of punishment and torture for the aforementioned offenses. That's a triple-threat of Islamophobia, sexism, and nationalism right there, as well as an actual rape culture, according to leftist ideology. Defining leftist as 'communist' and ending it there is as dumb as when Google rebranded fascism as 'a right wing system of governance'. Leftists support and push for communism, but once a government becomes communist, they stop behaving like leftists. It's one of the excuses forever-communists use to claim that 'true communism has never been tried'.
 
What is it with leftists like Movieblob and the undying obsession specifically with centralizing all power?
Easier to control I'd wager. The US is a unique example that has a myriad of individual state governments, police districts and various levels of judicial reach per state that it makes collating into a single system all the more harder, it would also give legitimacy in opposing anything the federal government does on a state level.
Other countries that use the Westminster system of Democracy are put into strata so that local state governments follow what those in power command, they leave local state matters to state govs but expect them to comply with federal demands. In China for example you wouldn't see a local state gov push back against a directive from the party, they'd find ways to work around it.
 
In 209 BC, two Qin Dynasty army officers, Chen Sheng and Wu Guang, were ordered to lead their troops on a march to provide reinforcements. Massive flooding delayed them. They couldn’t make their rendezvous time. In the Qin Dynasty, this carried the death penalty. No excuses.

“What’s the penalty for being late?”

“Death.”

“What’s the penalty for rebellion?”

“Death.”

“Well — we’re late.”

And that’s the story of the Dazexiang Uprising.

How does full-on streetfighting start in the United States of America? My guess is: pretty much like that. “What’s the penalty for kicking the living shit out of Leftist protestors?” “Oh, Jesus, we’d be demonized as Nazis.” “…what’ll they do if we don’t kick the living shit out of Leftist protestors?” “They’ll — hmmmmmmm….”


- https://status451.com/2017/01/20/days-of-rage/
More aptly, what is the penalty for defending your life if a leftist tries to murder you: Life in prison. And what is the penalty for defending your life if a leftist tries to murder you and then you murder all his friends who witnessed it: Life in prison.
Jack says a lot of shit just to agitate people, but every once in a while he's right even if he embellishes a lot so just take his shitpost with a grain of salt
I think he's just willing to pass on any information he gets from what he thinks is a reliable source. Some cleaning dude in the white house overhead someone musing if we should have nation wide lockdowns? Well, we're having nation wide lockdowns according to him posted to Twitter the next day.
 
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