Let's pretend for one moment that he does die before the election, just for the funsies. What happens then? Will the nomination revert to option number 2, aka Bernie Sanders? Or will his running mate automatically replace him just the way Vice-President is supposted to step in after the Big Man in the White House chokes on a piece of matzo? Does he even have a running mate yet?
US Joe Biden News Megathread - The Other Biden Derangement Syndrome Thread (with a side order of Fauci Derangement Syndrome)
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No, but it will make it significantly harder for him to get any support from his own team or things done. Especially senators/house members that are vulnerable. They see these numbers as a general sentiment on what their constituents think about Biden. Bend to Bidens will or give favors to him in the house/senate they know will come back and bite them come midterms.
That makes them very shy of providing any positive support or attach themselves to the boat anchor.
If they did, any competent opposition in the midterms would make "so you really want to vote for the guy that kisses Bidens ring?" a top issue in the campaigns.
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How does this relate to Bush and the GOP during his second term? I mean, they lost a lot of Congressional seats even if they started to hate on him.
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What was the lowest for Trump? I want to say 36% but I may be wrong?
Ok I get the Gop doesn't get as much celebrity surrport as dems. But this is just upsetting
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Don't vote for incumbent GOP, don't give them money. Try and primary them. There's probably 30-40 out of 200 who are actually good, at this point just clean house.
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Just to clarify here: the governor changed his death sentence to life in prison without parole. It's not a pardon.
It's probably not worth getting upset about.
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It depends on the poll, but for one example, Gallup had him around 35-36% for much of his first year in office, but gradually increasing to low/mid 40s as his term went on, and almost 50% at points during the last year. He sank to 34% just before leaving, but who cares at that point? And all this while the media ran a 24/7 hate campaign against him and his policies, Congress refused to get anything done, and TDS ran amok amongst lefties everywhere.
Biden's got a sympathetic media papering over his failures and the Bad Orange Man is nowhere to be seen, and yet he's still sinking fast. Using Gallup for comparison, he started at 57% approval and is already down to 42% in their poll, which is higher than this other poll but I'm pretty sure Gallup oversamples Dems anyway. Even they're having a hard time covering for the demented old fart.
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If you are a family member of the victim you are likely rather upset. Some hoe comes in and perhaps sucks the governor off, and he gives your family member's killer a vacation at the taxpayers' expense. Maybe he gets out one day. Sure does make a person believe the criminals have more rights than the victims, and know the governor doesn't give a fuck about your murdered family member.
And the hoe walks away, also laughing.
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Kim's sure spending that divorce money well I see.
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Yeah why would the whole country be mad at Lori Loughlin for using money and celebrity to cheat a college, and not be angry at Kim Kardashian for using money and celebrity to cheat justice? I'd look at this news and think they can do whatever they like, whenever they like.
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This kind of caught me off guard but Pelosi seems poised to hold a House vote on BBB in... a couple hours.
Turns out the CBO worked a little faster than expected and their budget score arrived today, rather than on Thanksgiving as they initially predicted. I've got to say, ever since the bipartisan infrastructure bill passed the entire Democratic Party in Congress has basically put a lid on any factional drama. If it exists, it hasn't been reported on much at the very least. It is uncertain whether this will have the votes to pass in the House, but if it does Manchin and Sinema can still kill it.
Main source I can see for opposition being raised against it would be this:
Confirmation that Biden, Pelosi, Psaki and all of them were lying. I'll admit I don't remember the demands of the Blue Dog Coalition specifically but wasn't this a big issue for them?
Turns out the CBO worked a little faster than expected and their budget score arrived today, rather than on Thanksgiving as they initially predicted. I've got to say, ever since the bipartisan infrastructure bill passed the entire Democratic Party in Congress has basically put a lid on any factional drama. If it exists, it hasn't been reported on much at the very least. It is uncertain whether this will have the votes to pass in the House, but if it does Manchin and Sinema can still kill it.
Main source I can see for opposition being raised against it would be this:
Confirmation that Biden, Pelosi, Psaki and all of them were lying. I'll admit I don't remember the demands of the Blue Dog Coalition specifically but wasn't this a big issue for them?
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GOP defeats Obama-endorsed candidate in deep blue city that Biden won handily in 2020
Endorsements from former President Obama and House Majority Whip Jim Clyburn in reliably blue Columbia, South Carolina, were not enough to push the city’s Democratic mayoral candidate over the finish line.
Republican Daniel Rickenmann, a businessman and Columbia city council member, defeated Democrat Tameika Isaac Devine 52% to 48% on Tuesday night in Columbia, which sits in a county that President Biden carried by almost 40 points in 2020.
Obama, according to Washington Free Beacon, released an audio message in support of Devine. The former president carried the city’s county by 29 points in 2008 and 33 points in 2012.
Clyburn, one of the most prominent Democrats in both the South and the Black community, who many believe saved President Biden’s flailing 2020 campaign with his endorsement, also endorsed Devine.
Columbia has been so reliably blue over the last several years that Republicans didn’t put forth a challenger to Rickenmann’s Democratic predecessor, Mayor Stephen Benjamin.
Republicans are likening Rickenmann’s victory to the GOP’s successful push in Virginia weeks ago that elected businessman Glenn Youngkin as the commonwealth’s next governor despite Virginians voting reliably blue for several cycles.
Sen. Rick Scott, R-Fla., chairman of the National Republican Senatorial Committee, celebrated Rickenmann’s victory as part of a "red wave."
The Democrat losses in South Carolina and Virginia come as Biden's poll numbers continue to slump and a USA Today/Suffolk University poll earlier this week painted a grim picture of the party's chances in the 2022 midterms.
The survey, which was taken after the Virginia elections but before House Democrats passed the popular infrastructure bill shortly after, showed Biden with nearly rock-bottom approval ratings, Vice President Kamala Harris with numbers that are even worse, and Democrats trailing by a wide margin on the generic congressional ballot.
Among the topline numbers, according to USA Today/Suffolk University, are a 37.8% approval rating for Biden with a 59% disapproval – more than 21 points underwater. Forty-six percent of those included in the survey said Biden has done a worse job than expected, and 64% said they don't want Biden to run for reelection.
Congressional Democrats, meanwhile, may face an uphill battle to preserve their razor-thin majorities unless something significant changes before Election Day on Nov. 8, 2022. The USA Today/Suffolk University poll gives Republicans a 46%-38% advantage on a generic congressional ballot.
GOP defeats Obama-endorsed candidate in deep blue city that Biden won handily in 2020
Endorsements from former President Obama and House Majority Whip Jim Clyburn in blue Columbia, South Carolina, were not enough to push the city’s Democratic mayoral candidate over the finish line.news.yahoo.com
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Joey's nightmare...from left, Presidents Jefferson, Reagan, Washington, Trump, Lincoln, Teddy Roosevelt, and Kennedy. Joey wouldn't make a pimple on any of these great men's asses.
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>reaganJoey's nightmare...from left, Presidents Jefferson, Reagan, Washington, Trump, Lincoln, Teddy Roosevelt, and Kennedy. Joey wouldn't make a pimple on any of these great men's asses.
He’s just joe Biden of neo cons, had the same level of dementia controlled puppet but flavored for bootstrappers
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What a spin-job. Life in prison is a vacation now. How do you stay this mad about someone getting life in prison w/o parole for murder?
How is a forum that is generally skeptical of the government, corruption in the legal system, and prosecutorial misconduct simultaneously super excited about the state killing people? There have been exonerations of people on death row once DNA evidence was processed and they figured out the person convicted was railroaded by an overzealous prosecutor. Sound familiar after watching that faggy little twink Binger in the Kenosha trial?
Also, a Kardashian blew someone that isn't black? Surely you jest.
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Remember how Trump went out of his way to stock up while that was cheap? I wonder what else Joe will go out of his way to sell overseas that is meant for the American people that he hasn't already.
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Wonder what the moderates mean by this. Have they decided BBB passing is more important than any disagreements they personally have with it? Who knows.
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Who's to say the killer won't eventually get out? We can't trust "elected officials" not to change that clemency decision later. And the killer can get visits and gifts from relatives and friends, while his victim is still dead, never to see his loved ones again. No, just wanted to see justice done. Again, the criminals have more rights than the victims or their families.
And Kartrashian may have blown the governor to help a black man.
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CBO says Build Back Better will increase deficit by $367 billion not including increased tax enforcement
The nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office on Thursday released its much anticipated cost estimate of President Biden's signature social spending plan, Build Back Better. The analysis — commonly referred to as the CBO score — said passage of the legislation would increase the deficit by more than $367 billion over 10 years. But the estimate does not include the revenue that could be generated from increasing IRS enforcement.
It comes as Democrats aim to push passage of the bill through the House this week, but some centrist Democrats have been holding out over the cost. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi hinted Thursday that the vote could be as early as that night. Several Democratic moderates had said they were waiting for the CBO score to make a final decision.
Over the past several weeks, the Congressional Budget Office had been releasing estimates on individual components of the Build Back Better Act, but the section dealing directly with how much money the legislation would raise as well as its total cost was not released until Thursday.
On Thursday, the CBO estimated the legislation would include $1.63 trillion in spending. At the same time, changes to the tax code and other provisions would generate more than $1.26 trillion in revenue. The Congressional Budget Office said increased IRS enforcement would add another $207 billion in revenue.
Some of the CBO figures have come in lower than what the Biden administration estimated. The cost of universal pre-K and affordable child care would cost roughly $382 billion, the agency found. Both estimates put affordable housing related costs at roughly $150 billion. Other measures like the cost estimate for expanding Medicare to include hearing was nearly identical, with the CBO saying $36 billion and the White House saying $35 billion.
The CBO also estimated that a four-week paid leave included in the House version of the bill would cost $205 billion. That provision was not included in the revised White House framework.
The White House, which estimated its framework would cost $1.75 trillion has argued the legislation would be fully paid for and even claimed it would reduce the deficit over time, generating more than $2.1 trillion over 10 years.
But earlier this month, the push for the score by the nonpartisan agency took on additional attention after five House Democrats sent a letter to Speaker Nancy Pelosi saying they could not support advancing the bill until they had reviewed the information and Joint Committee on Taxation to ensure the final bill was "indeed fiscally responsible."
Senator Joe Manchin, one of the centrist holdouts in the Senate, has also said he wants to see the analysis of legislation before committing to supporting it. He said Wednesday, "when the final bill comes out, CBO score comes out, then we'll go from there."
Meanwhile, the Joint Committee on Taxation estimated the bill would rake in $1.48 trillion. But their analysis did not include how much an increased cracking down on tax evasion through increased IRS enforcement would rake in.
Money raised through IRS enforcement has been a sticking point. Democrats have proposed giving the agency $80 billion in an effort to ramp up enforcement on the wealthiest Americans. The Treasury Department estimates it would raise $400 billion over a decade, making it the largest revenue-raiser in their proposal. Some organizations and lawmakers have suggested that estimate is too conservative.
But the White House was already preparing for a bad CBO score on this front. Deputy press secretary Andrew Bates on Wednesday said that "there has been wide agreement on the part of everyone involved — moderates, liberals, et cetera — that CBO does not have experience analyzing revenue amounts gained from cracking down on wealthy tax cheats who are taking advantage of every honest taxpayer."
The Congressional Budget Office estimated the spending would generate $207 billion in new revenue, a net increase of $127 billion, far less than the Biden administration claims. Earlier this week, CBO Director Phill Swagel explained ultimately the IRS will determine what additional resources are put toward. But he said research on how increased enforcement acts as a deterrence for tax evasion is mixed, so his office comes down closer to the middle on its impact, whereas others have taken more optimistic positions.
Another controversial component of the bill contributing to the price tag is the increase of the state and local tax deduction cap, commonly known as SALT. Some moderate House Democrats insisted an amendment be added that will increase the current SALT cap from $10,000 to $80,000.
The Biden administration did not include SALT in its framework. The provision is estimated to be one of the most expensive pieces of the legislation and analysis shows it vastly benefiting the wealthy over middle-income Americans.
While those backing increased deduction argue, the cap set as part of former President Trump's 2017 tax law unfairly hurts their constituents, it has become a point of contention among Democrats and faces obstacles in the Senate.
"It's bad politics, it's bad policy," said Senator Bernie Sanders on Wednesday. "The Democrats correctly have campaigned on the understanding that amidst massive income and wealth inequality. We've got to demand that the wealthy start paying their fair share of taxes."
But in the House, Democrats are moving full speed ahead. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi on Thursday said the SALT cap penalized states that provide services to their people. "We're not going to have our states with their hands tied behind their backs" because of the tax law under Mr. Trump, which limited the deduction, she said.
Pelosi conceded the social spending package passed by the House will likely differ from the plan approved in the Senate but said the legislation ultimately what is sent to Mr. Biden's desk will be "transformative and historic."
House passes Build Back Better bill after overnight delay
The passage comes after House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy broke an eight-hour, six-minute floor speech record set by Nancy Pelosi.www.cbsnews.com
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The House isn't where BBB will die, it's the Senate that is likely not to pass it.
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