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From what I understand you need to make your claim for an exemption declarative. Some employers seem determined to play games. Ask 20 questions to see if they can catch their employees out. A mistake in understanding a particular religious doctrine, a lack of knowledge in scripture. It's fucking stupid as I would assume most companies would want to keep their staff with the current labor shortage. So keep it simple. State you are a Christian, Muslim, Jedi, no need to detail denomination let alone church attendance. That your personal religious beliefs exclude you from consenting to vaccination. End of message.
You don't even need to declare a major religion, actually, as a "religion of one" still counts. There's also Thomas v. Indiana, where a Jehovah Witness requested not to be made to make weapon parts by his employer and won his discrimination case, despite the Jehovah Witness faith not teaching that they cannot work in arms manufacturing.

I'm presuming they'll ask for specifics of my religion (which I plan on denying or being nonspecific). I'm also presuming they'll challenge me on examples of how my exemptions have affected my life in other areas. Other than that I don't know.

It's not like I'm asking for a lot here. All I've ever wanted was to be left alone.
 
There's a good article about the vaccines then American Thinker posted.

November 22, 2021

If the Vaccines Work, Why Aren't They Working?​

By Brian C. Joondeph, M.D.

In the movie Moneyball, Oakland Athletics general manager Billy Beane queries his team of scouts when discussing a prospective player, “If he's a good hitter, why doesn't he hit good?” The scouts all have solid explanations, at least in their minds, of why a prospect might be a good hitter, from the sound of the crack of the bat when they hit the ball to the player’s good looks.
These explain why the player should be a good hitter, but what if the numbers, from batting average to on-base percentage, tell a different story? The question Billy poses is obvious in its simplicity, good hitters should hit good. And if they don’t, then perhaps they are not really good hitters.
What if we ask the same question about COVID vaccines, rephrased as “If the vaccines work, why aren’t they working?”

This is the time when I must add the necessary disclaimer that I am not anti-vaccine, having been personally fully vaccinated almost a year ago. Nor am I offering medical advice, only an analysis of current news of COVID cases rising in many highly vaccinated locales, seemingly against common sense.
Some readers have asked why such a disclaimer is necessary. I am a practicing physician, although I don’t treat COVID patients, administer vaccines, or offer medical advice regarding COVID to my retina patients. But today, just having an opinion can be hazardous to one’s livelihood.
The American Federation of Medical Specialists makes it clear, “Physicians who generate and spread COVID-19 vaccine misinformation or disinformation are risking disciplinary action by state medical boards, including the suspension or revocation of their medical license.”

Hopefully asking thoughtful questions and observing how the medical authorities like Dr. Anthony Fauci have changed their own positions on vaccines is not considered “misinformation.” Or that citing the CDC and major news organizations won’t be considered “disinformation.” In the 1950s, x-raying pregnant women was standard practice, and questioning that harmful procedure, were such a thing to be done in the 1950s with today’s climate now might be considered mis- or disinformation.
If you think such medical censorship is all conspiracy theory, ask Dr. Mary Bowden, a Houston ear, nose, and throat specialist suspended from her Houston hospital for tweeting about vaccine mandates and ivermectin.

Back to COVID vaccines. The CDC website states, “COVID-19 vaccines are safe, effective, and free.” Those three words are all relative. Let’s quickly unpack them.
VAERS is the “Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System.” From their website one can compare adverse events from COVID vaccines from the past 11 months they have been available to adverse events from all vaccines for the past 30 years, 1990 and onward.
Note this is 11 months versus 30 years of side effects and in most categories, the cumulative cases are similar between the two groups, despite a 30-fold time difference of data recording. Of note, hospitalizations, deaths, permanent disabilities, and birth defects were greater for 11 months of COVID vaccines than they were for 30 years of all other types of vaccines – such as shingles, influenza, measles, mumps, hepatitis, and so on.
VAERS is voluntary reporting. For a variety of reasons, all cases do not make it to the VAERS database. How much is this underreporting? VAERS did their own analysis about ten years ago and found, “Fewer than 1% of vaccine adverse events are reported.” Their words, not mine.
This means adverse events could be happening far more frequently than what we are being told by the corporate media who don’t even report VAERS current data. What if these adverse events are 10 or even 100 times more common than VAERS reports? To paraphrase Billy Beane, “If the vaccines are safe, why aren’t they safe?”
 
Reminder, if you take the vaccines you are literally taking what China said to take. Moderna, AZ, J&J and Pfizer all used Chinese information to develop the vaccine literally 2 days after the outbreak.

Do you think big Pharma did any due diligence ? I think not. One of the biggest reasons i wont touch this shit is literally all the information to develop the vaccines came from Wuhan in 2019. I dont trust China for Shit. China isn't even targeting the Spike proteins in there vaccination effort. China maintains a strict ZERO - Covid Policy and vaccinations are supposedly dead and de-activated viruses.

I can't ever get over this. No matter how much propaganda the CDC throws out. People around me are dieing and i know why. mRNA shit has never worked for anyone anywhere since it was developed...but we foolishly gave it to billions of peoples. Nobody who ever took an mRNA shot is alive today pre 2018.

3 years and you die.

Biontech said around June that they were trialing a booster specific to Delta. Whatever happened to that? Apparently now it'd take too long to change the vaccination production to a different "type"? But they took just a few days after getting the initial data to create the vaccine in the first place, yeah right.
The whole shitshow is communicated just badly enough to have me constantly suspicious that something is wrong and fucked up.
By now there are enough questions that should be easily answered, but simply aren't answered.
 
In good old Boris form, uk.gov could be setting up to just start ignoring the entire problem.

Either that or they're deliberately trying to generate a "popular" pressure movement to take the continental path, which will be signalled by an abrupt u-turn and far harsher lock-downs and mandates than anyone could have predicted.



UK could be first to transition out of pandemic - Zahawi​

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Widespread adoption of vaccines could allow the UK to become the first country to exit the coronavirus pandemic, a senior government minister has said.
Education Secretary Nadhim Zahawi tells LBC that a combination of natural immunity and the UK's high vaccination rate could allow the country to transition into a post coronavirus world before other countries.
"Our four-step plan meant that we were able to open up the economy in the summer. Some said it was a mistake - I think it was absolutely the right thing to do," former vaccines minister Zahawi says.
“We will probably, I hope, without being complacent, be the first major economy in the world to demonstrate how you transition [from] pandemic to endemic using vaccines."
A disease like Covid-19 becomes endemic when the virus becomes ever-present, but does not pose a societal threat.
 
The `ronies has mysteriously disappeared in Japan.

About a month ago, the government got fed up with the Cantonese Coof. They instituted “new guidelines” for reporting infections, which boil down to “you`re only a reportable case if you have to be hospitalized.” Feeling under the weather? Just go home, no need to write anything down.

We`re down to 20 whole cases in Tokyo and 60 total nationwide.

We`re wide open now. No restrictions. Go out and drink, karaoke, party it up. Gather in groups as large as you like, not that anyone was stopping us before.

People still wear masks—that`s just culturally ingrained here. But the people who hate the masks (including me) are half-assing it. Some are refusing to wear them at all. Most places have a sign on the door stating that you need one to enter, but no one enforces it. I and many others go in and out of bars and restaurants without one.

My work has never once asked me for proof of vaccination. In fact, no one has, anywhere. You can get a cert with your jab, but I`ve only ever seen one, proudly displayed by just the kind of expat faggot you would expect to be proud of having one (“And it`s in Japanese! Reddit is gonna be so jelly!”).

Talks of forcing the jab on people or imposing restrictions on the unvaccinated hit the wall of CIVIL RIGHTS, which is something my shithole of origin seems to have forgotten all about.

The news says the country is 70% double-jabbed, but no one believes that. Just about everyone I know initially said they got it, but get a few beers in them and they`ll admit they haven`t and don`t intend to.

Why aren`t you hearing about this on your own news networks? For the same reason you aren`t hearing about India. Japanese doctors give out Ivermectin.
I saw Japan mentioned here a few times, but it's usually brought up by someone to mention they used Ivermectin, which then results in a Branch Covidian coming in to deboonk them immediately. The Ivermectin narrative has reached Europe a week or so ago, so the deboonkers are working overtime.
 
In good old Boris form, uk.gov could be setting up to just start ignoring the entire problem.

Either that or they're deliberately trying to generate a "popular" pressure movement to take the continental path, which will be signalled by an abrupt u-turn and far harsher lock-downs and mandates than anyone could have predicted.


They've actually been talking about a March-April endpoint for a little bit now, our favorite soldier of the antichrist, Bill Gates, said we'll probably reach endemic by 2022 without a super convenient surprise variant, along with that, world renown furry Dr. Fauci has also said something about a Spring endpoint. Personally, I don't believe a goddamn thing that comes out of the mouths of these pieces of shit, but its still something to think about.
 
Either that or they're deliberately trying to generate a "popular" pressure movement to take the continental path, which will be signalled by an abrupt u-turn and far harsher lock-downs and mandates than anyone could have predicted.

Would you mind elaborating on this point a bit? I did a bit of a double-take at this article as well, but couldn't work out what they might be up to.
 
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Germans will be 'vaccinated, cured or dead' in a few months, health minister warns as country mulls compulsory jabs and Austria wakes up to life in lockdown amid Europe's Covid crisis​

  • Austria under nationwide lockdown with 8.9 million people unable to leave homes unless for specific reasons
  • Nearly 40,000 protesters descended on Belgium's capital Brussels in a revolt against anti-Covid measures


Germans will be 'vaccinated, cured or dead' from Covid-19 in just a few months, the country's health minister Jens Spahn warned today as he urged more citizens to get jabbed to protect themselves against the Delta variant.

The dire warning comes as Germany is racing to contain a record rise in coronavirus infections, with the country reporting 49,206 cases on Sunday - the highest number of new coronavirus cases since the beginning of the pandemic.


'Probably by the end of this winter, as is sometimes cynically said, pretty much everyone in Germany will be vaccinated, cured or dead,' Shahn said, blaming the contagious Delta variant. 'That is why we so urgently recommend vaccination.'


"urge"
"recommend "

NOT

"threaten"
"coerce"

What the fuck did I just read?

Not vaccinated?
Not cured? (maybe you never had the coof)
Then you'll be fucking dead!

Is that a threat? It sounds like one.

You vill be vaggzinated or you vill be cured, or you vill be fickin dead, jah!

Holy mother of christ, please protect us.

It's happening again, isn't it?
Oh yeah, another one of those government fags who just doesn't understand big numbers.
We're currently having up to 50k cases per day. About 15 million people left that are unvaccinated and unrecovered, somewhere along those lines.
Now 50k "infections" sound like a lot, but at 50k/d you'd need 300 days to fill up the 15 million. You'd need over 120k new cases every day from now on to fill that up in the next 120 days, which is stretching the length of "winter" already.
So we'd need to have the absolute numbers from the big wave in India to get that. And, little reminder, there are a billion streetshitters and only 80 million of us little soybots. It's highly unlikely we'd get full spread through this winter, but these people don't stop and question their little number games every once in a while, because they just assume they're always right.
 
Even redditors are calling 100% bullshit

Pfizer’s Covid-19 vaccine was 100% effective in kids in longer-term study​

Pfizer and BioNTech announced Monday that their Covid-19 vaccine was 100% efficacious in preventing infections in 12- to 15-year-olds, measured from seven days to four months after administration of the second dose of the vaccine.

The companies said the new data — a longer-term analysis of a Phase 3 trial conducted in 2,228 participants — will form the basis of an application to the Food and Drug Administration for an extension of their Covid-19 vaccine license to cover youths in the age group.

“These are the first and only disclosed longer-term data demonstrating the safety and efficacy of a Covid- 19 vaccine in individuals 12 to 15 years of age,” Ugur Sahin, CEO and co-founder of BioNTech, said in a statement. “The growing body of data we have compiled from clinical trials and real-world surveillance to date strengthen the base of evidence supporting the strong efficacy and favorable safety profile of our Covid-19 vaccine across adolescent and adult populations.”

The longer-term analysis of the Phase 3 trial data showed no serious safety concerns over a follow-up period of at least six months after the second dose of the vaccine.

The additional data “provide further confidence in our vaccine’s safety and effectiveness profile in adolescents. This is especially important as we see rates of COVID-19 climbing in this age group in some regions, while vaccine uptake has slowed,” Albert Bourla, Pfizer’s chairman and CEO, said in the statement.

The vaccine has been in use in this age group since May, when the FDA extended the emergency use authorization for the vaccine to cover 12 to 15 year olds. In August, the vaccine, which the companies market under the name Comirnaty, was the first of Covid vaccines to receive a full license for individuals, 16 years of age and older.

The companies said they will also use the data to pursue regulatory approvals in other countries where the vaccine has been granted emergency use.

The Phase 3 data saw 30 Covid infections — all in the placebo arm. Efficacy was consistent across race and ethnic demographics, gender, and underlying illness status, including obesity, the companies said.




 
Do you have a source for the 3 year and die? Not that I don't believe you just want to read up on it. And guess I should be glad my experimental jab twenty some odd years ago just resulted it a crippling autoimmune disorder 15 years after the fact. And here I've been telling everyone who got the jab to come see me in 15-20 years when they get their very own autoimmune disorder, which looks like I was wrong since they'll just be dead.

Yes

Go look at moderna trials for cancer, diabetes and hiv vaccines in years gone by.

Moderna never made a product that didnt kill people after a few years.

You could argue it was the cancer or diabetes that killed them....but we have hashed the mRNA failures almost a year now in this thread.

Your body just doesnt understand when genetic instructions get injected in you. It goes haywire and causes auto immune disorders everytime. The quality control of the instructions arent even that good. Some mRNA copies after a billion batches look nothing like the original in your body...so you end up with a shitload of instructions your immune system doesnt comphrehend. Like a copier that copies a sheet of paper 1000000 times...the end result is totally different


These are what jabs do inside your body. This was always the problem of mRNA mRNA technology.

The people who took these will die. You are already seeing it in the excess death stats above. Likely the chart will begin going parabolic this winter.

We are on track for over a million unexplained deaths in the USA alone. This is nothing short of murder
 
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Would you mind elaborating on this point a bit? I did a bit of a double-take at this article as well, but couldn't work out what they might be up to.
It's become a pattern for UK governments to brief or leak a particular policy position, in order to gauge public response to it. Usually they would have it go through some "former member of X", a friendly ex minister, or some other semi-interested but officially unconnected party, who would float the idea in press releases and media interviews. Some quick sampling of the buzz on social media and opinion polls would decide if the policy was achievable, at which point it would become official. There were good examples of it over the summer, when the government was trying to guide people toward the idea of some limited form of covid passports.

What I've seen in recent years is an apparent twist on this formula.

Say the government wants to pursue a particular policy, but knows that it would be wildly unpopular. First they would brief an opposing policy, setting it up as one half of a binary choice, with the intent of creating a media/social-media storm in opposition to that. Then, by using the media-generated the appearance of popular revulsion to the briefed policy, they create the impression that the policy is wildly unpopular, and effectively gaslight the general population into believing that they must be in the minority for supporting the thing the government initially proposed. The government then announces a fake u-turn to the policy they originally wanted to implement, which is now released and presented as the opposite side of the binary choice, without any other alternatives being discussed or even mentioned. The media and the noisy partisans support it wholeheartedly, because it opposes the other policy, whist the general population go along with it because they feel like they have no choice and that everyone else disagrees with them. It's a pernicious form of astroturfing that avoids most of the expense of setting up fake lobbying organisations.

I'm not saying it's the case with this particular issue. It feels like the sort of slimy thing the turk would get up to, but given Boris can also turn on a sixpence because princess nut-nuts slapped his knackers again, it's not something that could be definitely proven.
 
Even redditors are calling 100% bullshit






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It’ll be ‘jab or death’ for anti-vaxxers, Orban predicts​



Vaccination of all Hungarian citizens against Covid-19 is inevitable, PM Viktor Orban has said, stating that even the most hardline anti-vaxxers will ultimately face a choice between dying with the virus and getting a jab.

Speaking to Kossuth radio on Friday, the Hungarian leader lashed out at those reluctant to get vaccinated against coronavirus, branding them a threat "not only to themselves but to all others."



In the end, everyone will have to be vaccinated; even the anti-vaxxers will realize that they will either get vaccinated or die. So, I urge everyone to take this opportunity.


Now, where have I heard this threatening rhetoric before? Mmmmm...

"urge"

It's almost as if someone, part of a higher organisation that transcends national boundaries and nation states, is writing this propaganda for the different nation states to disseminate.

It’ll be ‘jab or death’ for anti-vaxxers


Based Orban. LOL. They're all fucking at it.


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It's become a pattern for UK governments to brief or leak a particular policy position, in order to gauge public response to it. Usually they would have it go through some "former member of X", a friendly ex minister, or some other semi-interested but officially unconnected party, who would float the idea in press releases and media interviews. Some quick sampling of the buzz on social media and opinion polls would decide if the policy was achievable, at which point it would become official. There were good examples of it over the summer, when the government was trying to guide people toward the idea of some limited form of covid passports.

What I've seen in recent years is an apparent twist on this formula.

Say the government wants to pursue a particular policy, but knows that it would be wildly unpopular. First they would brief an opposing policy, setting it up as one half of a binary choice, with the intent of creating a media/social-media storm in opposition to that. Then, by using the media-generated the appearance of popular revulsion to the briefed policy, they create the impression that the policy is wildly unpopular, and effectively gaslight the general population into believing that they must be in the minority for supporting the thing the government initially proposed. The government then announces a fake u-turn to the policy they originally wanted to implement, which is now released and presented as the opposite side of the binary choice, without any other alternatives being discussed or even mentioned. The media and the noisy partisans support it wholeheartedly, because it opposes the other policy, whist the general population go along with it because they feel like they have no choice and that everyone else disagrees with them. It's a pernicious form of astroturfing that avoids most of the expense of setting up fake lobbying organisations.

I'm not saying it's the case with this particular issue. It feels like the sort of slimy thing the turk would get up to, but given Boris can also turn on a sixpence because princess nut-nuts slapped his knackers again, it's not something that could be definitely proven.

Ah yes. You've put in to words far more eloquently that which my midwit brain can barely conceptualise for itself. I've noticed that before on a few things. I always wondered if anyone else did. I couldn't have elaborated on it better than you though, even to myself. It's kind of like a double-negative or double-double-bluff. It's confusing if you aren't paying attention, but if you are, you can see it for the scam it is, but it's still kind of confusing. That article made me prick up my ears and got my radar spinning, but for the life of me I couldn't work out why. I wonder if there is a name for that kind of propaganda mind-game. It's both quite a crass but sophisticated technique at the same time.

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Meanwhile in Austria -


Interesting hot take from Martin Sellner (love him or hate him) -




You know things are getting spicy when even the fash think you're being too fashy.
 

It’ll be ‘jab or death’ for anti-vaxxers, Orban predicts​



Vaccination of all Hungarian citizens against Covid-19 is inevitable, PM Viktor Orban has said, stating that even the most hardline anti-vaxxers will ultimately face a choice between dying with the virus and getting a jab.

Speaking to Kossuth radio on Friday, the Hungarian leader lashed out at those reluctant to get vaccinated against coronavirus, branding them a threat "not only to themselves but to all others."



In the end, everyone will have to be vaccinated; even the anti-vaxxers will realize that they will either get vaccinated or die. So, I urge everyone to take this opportunity.


Now, where have I heard this threatening rhetoric before? Mmmmm...

"urge"

It's almost as if someone, part of a higher organisation that transcends national boundaries and nation states, is writing this propaganda for the different nation states to disseminate.

It’ll be ‘jab or death’ for anti-vaxxers


Based Orban. LOL. They're all fucking at it.
Based Orban my ass.

All this shit for a 0.2% lethality virus. If he actually gave a shit about "muh huwite birth rates" he'd just let nature do its thing and knock-off a few boomers to clear up resources for younger generations.

But nope. He's a cowardly Eurocuck Boomer authoritarian just like the rest of them.
 
Quick take from the above Martin Sellner video:

Austria has 75 percent of its population vaccinated. Sellner says that this is the lowest in Europe and so that is why it has been chosen to make an example of.

This is how they plan to bring these mandatory vaccinations about -

If you don't get the first shot of the vaxx -
3600 Euros fine or 4 weeks imprisonment.

If you don't get the booster -
1450 Euros fine or 4 weeks imprisonment.


If you still refuse to get the vaxx the penalties keep rising.

So you would have to pay either 5050 Euros or be imprisoned for 2 months if you refused both initial vaxx and booster. [So this is not just about getting vaxxed, it's about getting boosters as well. Of course they don't mention this right now. This is a hard enough pill to swallow. But once they get that old boot on your throat, it'll be boosters for ever.]

Then you would be penalised again but with the penalties getting harsher. Greater fines and longer prison sentences I imagine. What's funny is that it's not a criminal but civil matter. But you still get to hang out with the murderers and rapists if you're a europoor.

Will be interesting to see how many people buckle under the threat, and how many say lol go fuck yourself, not paying the fine, put me in prison. Would like to see just how the fuck you imprison one fucking quarter of your population.

If enough people are frightened enough in to going along with this, it will make enforcing the penalties on the holdouts a lot easier. Less people to jail. It's doable. If everyone says just go fuck yourself, it's not workable at all. Even if half those people hold out again, I don't see how it could be workable.

If ever anyone was still in doubt that this is about the WuFlu and not some kind of population control experiment, well, this should be proof enough for you.

Lol, they are going to start putting people in to camps again in fucking Austria of all places.

What a time to be alive.
 
Since I can't get into the US/Florida as a pureblood which place do we believe is least likely to enact force-pozzing at this point? Brazil, Mexico, somewhere in Africa?
Brazil, but supposedly word on the street is that Based Brazilian Bolsonaro is going to be a one-term wonder.

If you are going to Mexico then you might as well at least try to cross the border into Texas.
 
No. Them shoahing themselves to own the whites is not smart enough for (((them))). They are kikes, not dumbass nignogs.

They could just poison the water or paint the underside of bread with arsenic....

Other than the Germans, who were the group who killed the most Jews? Hint: Other jews. Some theorise that the holocaust was the jewish faith equivalent of the mass murders seen, and carried out by, protestant/catholics in England during medievil times.
In good old Boris form, uk.gov could be setting up to just start ignoring the entire problem.

Either that or they're deliberately trying to generate a "popular" pressure movement to take the continental path, which will be signalled by an abrupt u-turn and far harsher lock-downs and mandates than anyone could have predicted.


Give me all the rainbows, but i think the Uk will be OK. Javid has already said "We've already had the delta variant and we dealth with it, so ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-haa, na-na-na-na-naaa-na Europe"

While the continent goes to shit and locks down, the glorious tories and their glorious Brexit get to sweep up all of the business that european companies cannot deal with, due to lockdowns. Tories always chase the money.
Since I can't get into the US/Florida as a pureblood which place do we believe is least likely to enact force-pozzing at this point? Brazil, Mexico, somewhere in Africa?
Only shit hole countries like those in Africa and the Middle-East, unfortunately. If Orban is bending the knee, then there is nowhere safe in Eastern Europe.
 
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