Kiwi Farms NFT Discussion

Interest guage

  • Interested, and I have crypto

    Votes: 112 17.7%
  • Interested, but I don't understand crypto

    Votes: 82 12.9%
  • Not interested, and I have crypto

    Votes: 145 22.9%
  • Not interested, and I don't understand crypto

    Votes: 71 11.2%
  • Sneed

    Votes: 224 35.3%

  • Total voters
    634

Null

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kiwifarms.net
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I have never been open to NFTs on principle for a few reasons.
1) Every NFT sale I see looks so fucking low effort and unappealing.
2) Every person who pitches an NFT run answers "no" when I ask if they'd actually buy one.
3) Most users on the site can't even figure out crypto.

However, my opinion has been skewed recently.
1) I like money.
2) Stonetoss sold 5000 for $500ea (0.085 ETH) and sold all of them in 22 minutes for $2.5m.
3) It was suggested that people outside the community would be interested in NFTs from a community that's considered high risk.

In general, NFTs are hideous and lazy. I don't know why. Here are examples from successful franchises.

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That's not a joke. They're generated procedurally by combining layers and for some reason people pay a lot for this.

I have described Stonetoss's sales as cynical but in comparison with the competition they're clean and distinct.
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Doug Tenaple of Earthworm Jim fame also sells NFTs for $90 each and they come with the dignity of an actual artist associated.
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The Flurks Ethereum contract is public. The gist is is that you buy into the contract, get a bunch of random attributes assigned, and then the contract owner can fulfill them by randomly generating items that match those attributes using a tool that combines transparent layers. The image is hosted on IPFS.

What you get in exchange is the IP rights to those image and the digital receipt saying that you own it, as well as the ability to transfer that ownership to anybody else.


So, do you guys think doing something similar would be worth it?

One of the merch artists came up with this as an example. Basically, a generic kiwi base, and then attributes could be stuff like color/eyes/beak/feet for base swaps, hat/shirt/accessory layers on top, and background/foreground layers.

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The downside is that this is just a community thing. I can't really make special versions for a bunch of grifters to help sell them because everyone outside of the community fucking hates me and hates us and hates this website and the people who shilled for Stonetoss want the shit you guys say about them to disappear forever.

P.S. Also open to discussions about price points, mint quantity, and what tech to use. ETH is the most popular but gas fees require higher prices.
 
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It's worth a shot, anything as low-effort as NFTs is probably worth failing, by the slim chance you make 2 million.

But I love this little guy and would realistically pay $20 for the rights to give everyone else the right to use it as much as humanly possible-
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Aight, if that's what you want to do, do it, but I personally am not interested in NFTs. Instead I believe that CWCcoin is the future and I'd buy another silver round if you make a yaniv, tooter, dsp, chantal or amberlyn one.
Or just a coin with le kiwimutt :null:
But again, if there really is demand, do it. It will be easier than shipping out physical silver rounds.
But still, pls do silver run 2.0
 

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I think some variant of slobbermutt could be used as a base to add attributes on top of. Idk if you could use the original slobbermutt as a base due to IP issues, but you could use a stylized version like you do on merch runs.
Some users already have slobbermutt variants as pfps. @Slobber Mutt comes to mind
(Obviously this is still based off of the original slobbermutt image, but it gives you an idea of what kind of "attributes" could be added
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Null has also used modified slobbermutts in the past, such as the "Hawaiian shirt" vacation mutt.

This basic concept could quickly and easily be turned into a Stonetoss-style NFT run
 
Aight, if that's what you want to do, do it, but I personally am not interested in NFTs. Instead I believe that CWCcoin is the future and I'd buy another silver round if you make a yaniv, tooter, dsp, chantal or amberlyn one.
Or just a coin with le kiwimutt :null:
But again, if there really is demand, do it. It will be easier than shipping out physical silver rounds.
But still, pls do silverrun 2.0
It'd be nice if the guys handling the fulfillment in the US weren't fucking niggers.
 
I would buy one honestly. Get an artist to make something good and I'd buy one for 0.01488 Eth
Honestly, in my case I think it depends on the price point. I think they're too expensive for a purely digital asset, but if the KF run was reasonably priced I wouldn't mind picking one up.
 
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I think if you care about providing a worthwhile product for people's money, Null, you shouldn't go with the cookiecutter method every other NFT provider uses, instead I think you should do a smaller number run, with higher quality NFT's. Tie them to site lore and history, this makes them each much more noteworthy than a simple branded deal. The 2 trannies showing up to Nulls House NFT or The Christchurch Shooting NFT is way more interesting than "I've got the blue kiwi with tendie crumbs on it's beak." It also provides a greater outlet for any kind of artistry and could let you command a higher price.
 
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