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So after all this time, what's the verdict on the JJ shot? Still just as shit?
IIRC its slightly higher chance of blot clot for females, slightly lower chance of myocarditis for males.
It is also only 1-dose in most jurisdictions, so less volume going in your body; as well as using a virus rather than lipid nanoparticles to get the mRNA in your cells.

It still has the issue of causing your native cells to express a surface protein and getting your T-cells to murk native cells expressing said proteins.
 
Is your BMI similar to BMI of your avatar? Alcohol is not good for you man. I think holy IVM was trying to tell you something :biggrin:
Thats not me that is some fat goon from somethingawful forums...my new effort days of bullying and doxxing neckbearded manchildren before the farms. I dont remember his username...i think it was GE Cafes brother blondeMastadon
 
I know it's not you, and neither I look like a gorilla. I asked about your BMI. Thanks for your memories.

Fren i dont remember how to calcuilate that but im not what you would consider fat. Ivermectin doesnt work for everyone.

And yes cherish my internet memories. Like a scout who wears his merit badges i take pride in lives i have ruined.

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Fren i dont remember how to calcuilate that but im not what you would consider fat. Ivermectin doesnt work for everyone.

And yes cherish my internet memories. Like a scout who wears his merit badges i take pride in lives i have ruined.
OK, I guess you just don't want to say. I can't believe that you are unable to use one of thousand online calculators. You would be surprised how many obese people do not consider themselves fat. "But I just look average!" Yeah, because average is now fat.

I am sorry to hear that IVM didn't work for you, and I am sure that there are others who get bad side effects. I guess I belong to the group that had no bad side effects.
 
Ivermectin made my heart race and i took massive shits that would literally take a notch down my belt.

And I do mean massive. Like 3 hours in the bathroom. Total intestines being emptied. Logs of shit...not diarrhea

Sweating and cramps for hours. Threw the shit away. No good as a prophalyaxtic. Figured it was a 4chan prank or something. Lost like 9lbs in 2 days of dosing it.

Maybe i did it wrong. Makes for a great diet pill. (also enjoy my first faggy first like.
Since not stated it is just a side effect meaning it is working :like:.
sick of all stupid stupid responses with all of it, Hope all works out.
 
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Buzzfeed on Pfizermectin:

8 Things To Know About The Antiviral Pills For COVID​

Here’s how COVID pills from Merck and Pfizer work, and how and when you might be able to take them once they become available.
Posted on November 22, 2021, at 6:38 p.m. ET
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Even though there’s now a safe and effective COVID-19 vaccine for people 5 or older, treatments are still desperately needed for the millions of people who continue to get sick.
One major goal has been to have an effective COVID treatment that’s as easy as taking a pill. Now, finally, new oral medications for COVID-19 are almost here.
The FDA will decide on Nov. 30 if Merck will get an emergency use authorization for a COVID pill called molnupiravir. Pfizer also submitted a request to the FDA for emergency use authorization for a second antiviral pill marketed under the brand name Paxlovid. Clinical trials for the two medications purport to show a 50% to 89% reduction in the risk of being hospitalized or dying due to COVID if taken soon after symptoms start.
If the real-world results are as good as the clinical trials (they aren’t always), these pills could be an actual game changer when it comes to protecting against hospitalization and death due to the respiratory virus.
Since the start of the pandemic, experts around the world have been desperately searching for effective treatments for COVID. Some that initially looked promising, or at least got a lot of attention, have turned out to be failures (see ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine).
Others — like the currently available monoclonal antibody treatments and the antiviral drug remdesivir (sold as Veklury) — are effective under specific circumstances. However, they have to be given via intravenous infusion or injection by a healthcare worker, usually in a hospital.
“They were not things that were widely available to the general public,” said Dr. Tim Sheahan, a virologist at the University of North Carolina Gillings School of Global Public Health who did preclinical work on both molnupiravir and remdesivir. “So I think that’s why these oral antivirals are getting a lot of attention.”
The medications are likely to be available by prescription at your local pharmacy, and “everybody knows how to swallow a pill,” he said.
Here’s what else you should know about these new treatments for COVID.

They look incredibly effective in clinical trials.​

Both antiviral pills look promising when it comes to fighting COVID. Although medications don’t always perform as well in the real world as they do in clinical trials, both studies were stopped early because the benefit was clear.
A clinical trial of molnupiravir that was supposed to include 1,500 people was stopped early because there was a 50% reduction in the risk of hospitalization or death in people taking the drug versus placebo.
Overall, about 14% of people taking the placebo were hospitalized compared with 7% of those taking molnupiravir. There were no deaths in the molnupiravir group, but eight deaths in the placebo group.
In a clinical trial of Paxlovid, the drug reduced the risk of hospitalization or death by 89%. In that study, about 3,000 people with mild to moderate symptoms and at least one risk factor for developing severe illness were supposed to take the drug or a placebo, but the study was halted early because it was so clearly effective.
Overall, there were no deaths in the treatment group and 10 deaths in the placebo group.
In early November, Dr. Anthony Fauci, the nation’s top infectious disease expert, called the clinical trial results “very, very impressive.”
“People want answers, people want to feel safe, and I think people have been led down some dead ends for sure over the past couple of years,” Sheahan said. “But the data that have been produced for the Pfizer drug and molnupirivir are really good all around.”

The drugs work in different ways.

There are three basic ways drugs can interfere with the ability of the SARS-CoV-2 virus to hijack the cells in your body and churn out more of the virus.
Molnupirivir and remdesivir are polymerase or RNA replicase inhibitors, which stop the cell from creating viral genetic code, Sheahan said.
“If you stop the virus from making viral RNA, it’s really bad for the virus,” Sheahan said. “It’s an essential part of virus replication — if you can’t make new RNA, you can’t make offspring or progeny virus.”
Paxlovid is a combination of two protease inhibitors, a new one called PF-07321332, combined with an older protease inhibitor called ritonavir. They interrupt protease, an enzyme important for viral replication. “Protease inhibitors stop the replication machine from even forming,” Sheahan said.
The third type of drug, entry inhibitors, stops the virus from attaching to cells in your body in the first place, similar to the way monoclonal antibodies block the virus, Sheahan said.
“I think the other two classes of drugs will have a bigger impact than an entry inhibitor, but putting them all together, maybe that would be fine,” he said.

It’s a lot of pills, taken over a five-day period.

Although both drugs come in pill form, molnupiravir is a capsule, and Paxlovid doses include two different tablets. (What’s the difference? In general, tablets can be cut in half, capsules cannot.)
For molnupiravir, the clinical trial involved taking four capsules twice a day for five days, or a total of 40 capsules.
In the clinical trial of Paxlovid, patients took the drug every 12 hours for five days. That included four tablets of PF-07321332 and two ritonavir tablets daily, for a total of 30 pills.
Ritonavir is taken “at a low dose to help slow the metabolism, or breakdown, of PF-07321332 in order for it to remain active in the body for longer periods of time at higher concentrations to help combat the virus,” a Pfizer spokesperson said in an email.

You take them within three to five days of the onset of symptoms.

Like other antivirals such as Tamiflu for influenza, the sooner you start taking them the more effective they will be in preventing you from getting seriously ill.
“These kinds of drugs do their best work if taken as early as possible after the onset of symptoms,” Sheahan said.
In both clinical trials, the volunteers had mild to moderate COVID symptoms, tested positive for the virus, and had at least one risk factor that increased their chance of developing severe symptoms that could lead to hospitalization or death.
For example, in the clinical trial of molnupiravir, about 13% of people were over age 60, 76% had obesity, 13% had diabetes, and 10% had a serious heart condition.
The volunteers started taking the medication within three to five days of when symptoms started. None of the study participants were in the hospital or severely ill when they started taking the drugs.
“Their ability to shorten the duration of your disease and prevent you from going to the hospital, and prevent you from dying, will decrease over time,” Sheahan said.

The side effects seem to be relatively low.

In both clinical trials, the side effects in the treatment group were similar to those in the placebo group.
“It doesn’t seem like they had serious side effects,” said Dr. Waleed Javaid, an epidemiologist and director of Infection Prevention and Control at Mount Sinai Downtown. While more is known about the side effects of protease inhibitors, “in the majority of cases, most of the common side effects are very mild and go away quickly,” he said.
The FDA still has to make a decision as to who should take the pills and when. It’s a good idea to follow those recommendations when they are made. For example, they might be approved only if you test positive for COVID and are at high risk of complications. In that case, you should avoid taking them “just in case” or as a preventive measure.
For any drug, it’s important to make sure any benefits outweigh the risks, Javaid said.

They should be widely available once approved.​

Once the drugs get the go-ahead from the FDA, the companies say they will produce millions of doses.
Merck announced it is making 10 million courses of the drug by the end of 2021, and the US has already agreed to buy 3.1 million of them for about $2.2 billion.
"The US government also has the ability to purchase more than 2 million additional courses through further options that remain in the contract," according to a Merck spokesperson.
The US plans to buy 10 million courses of Paxlovid from Pfizer at a cost of $5.3 billion, according to a deal announced last week.
While it’s not yet clear how much the drugs will cost to the average consumer (or their health insurance plan, if they have one), the US government is paying around $700 per course for molnupiravir, and $530 per course for Paxlovid.
A Merck spokesperson said that in the US, "the government will make molnupiravir available for free to patients, and we believe it will be available at little to no cost for most other countries that have a supply agreement with our company."
Merck signed an agreement in October with a nonprofit that would allow companies in more than 100 countries, mostly in Asia and Africa, to license molnupiravir. In April, the company signed licensing agreements with manufacturers in India to produce generic molnupiravir.
Pfizer has struck a similar deal, allowing a United Nations–backed nonprofit to sublicense the drug, making it available in 95 countries.
That means millions of people in low- or middle-income countries may be able to get the drugs at a much lower cost.

Some day, a cocktail of drugs might be used to fight COVID.​

People with other viral infections like HIV and hepatitis C are treated with a variety of antiviral medications, Sheahan said.
Having multiple drugs that use different mechanisms to stop SARS-CoV-2 could be useful in that way, although much more research is needed to demonstrate that that is true.
“Two drugs that act in different ways if used together may not only be additive but it could be synergistic in its ability to diminish replication, but it also will create an environment that’s way less likely to generate resistance than monotherapy,” Sheahan said.

You shouldn’t skip vaccines because these are available — seriously.​

All the experts we talked to were in strong agreement. These pills are not an excuse to skip vaccinations.
“Although antivirals are promising, we must be sure to get our population vaccinated,” Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, said at a press briefing. “Antivirals, as good as they are, are not our first line of defense against COVID-19.”
While a 50% to 89% reduction in the risk of hospitalization is good, the way you get a 100% decrease in the risk of hospitalization is to not get infected in the first place, Fauci said.
“Drugs like these are very encouraging, they are very helpful, but these will not be the answer,” Javaid said. “Get vaccinated, that’s the answer.”
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And I do mean massive. Like 3 hours in the bathroom. Total intestines being emptied. Logs of shit...not diarrhea
You were probably shitting out lots of dead worms, that means it's working.
Poop worms!
 
Do you have a source for the 3 year and die? Not that I don't believe you just want to read up on it. And guess I should be glad my experimental jab twenty some odd years ago just resulted it a crippling autoimmune disorder 15 years after the fact. And here I've been telling everyone who got the jab to come see me in 15-20 years when they get their very own autoimmune disorder, which looks like I was wrong since they'll just be dead.
Just get a Ouija board.
 
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I heard of something similar happening to somebody else, but they were exceptional and took an actual horse level dose

May have been Milo?

Being a literal faggot he probably had a lot of parasites from licking other faggots assholes so the Ivermectin would have been rough.


This. Just sounds like you took too much if you're shitting all the time.

Could also be this, the horse paste or injectable stuff is for livestock and is dosed by bodyweight, so probably easy to fuck up the dose in a human that weighs a fraction of a cow or horse.
 
This. Just sounds like you took too much if you're shitting all the time.
>Not taking long relaxing shits and having a poop stool
>Not actually shitposting while you shit
>Not making truly abhorrent posts by crossing the border to Canada to shit in a bathroom that's heated by a natural hot spring

ishygddt. It's how you end up with hemroids. Get a poop stool if you literally can't drive across the border to a secret poop shed, poop stools will change how you shit.
 
Corporate HR is demanding a meeting next week so I can have an "interactive discussion" about my Religious Exemption.

I'm not quite certain how to play this. I'm definitely recording the call. I'm guessing they'll be wanting more examples of the 3 reasons why I won't take the jab -- lack of informed consent, fetal tissue, and genetic engineering -- affecting my life. I'm wondering if I should just demand the questions in writing and refuse to talk, or refuse to talk either way.
Dude, that sucks. Good luck with the in-person stuff and definitely record.
Well I just tested positive for Covid a third fucking time today

Im starting to get suspicous the tests cannot determine the difference between any coronavirus which could cause just a cold and SARS-2.

I literally have a runny nose and thats it. All other functions are fine. This feels nothing like my experience a few months ago and my initial infection last year which knocked on my ass. Or maybe im literally immune to this shit. Dunno.

I mentioned it to my pharmacist and they did a test anyway. Either its really weak now or the tests are stupid.

As a bonus I get a pass from thanksgiving at the in-laws..so thank you Wuhan Viral Institute bcuz i hate eating at my wifes parents
Didn't you just have Covid like a month ago? I've read around the internet that you can test positive for quite a while afterwords. People crossing borders are having to get doctor's notes to circumvent the mandatory testing. Not saying you didn't get it more than once, but I have heard that the positive tests can linger beyond the infectious period.

We're now requiring vaccine passports for gyms, restaurants, and nightclubs (and I forget what else) in LA City. I made a mental note to take my business elsewhere for a month or two, but then forgot and went out to dinner downtown last night and walked right past three very blatant "you must be vaccinated" signs to order my burger and eat it indoors. Nobody asked for proof. They just want to sell you food. If I end up back in LA, I'll test this theory further.

The boss who found out I declined to state my vaccination status doesn't hate me, has been super friendly and complimentary, and encouraged me to apply for a promotion. I'd totally assumed he'd hate me and look for an excuse to fire me and I'm glad to be wrong.

My friend from Orange County visited and is absolutely paranoid about using hand sanitizer but kept walking into buildings without his mask. I asked him about it and he said masks are dumb because he's had two vaccinations. I'm hearing that more and more... People did what they were supposed to do and now they want to go back to normal.

Grandpa's still dying. The doctors conferred and decided he probably doesn't need a booster shot. My family has figured out that as long as we go in the back, outside door of his room, we can enter the room and do whatever we want. (It's against the rules to be indoors at the nursing home if you're not vaccinated.) Pretty sure this whole system is running on plausible deniability at this point.
 
This. Just sounds like you took too much if you're shitting all the time.
Isn't that the thing with ivermectin? Unless I'm remembering wrong, doesn't overdosing on it just make you shit and puke? That's kind of the reason the doomering over it was stupid, unless it was human ivermectin, which is different. Btw, those of you who've had covid, how was it? I had it and was shocked that it wasn't that bad, but my brother got it and he swore up and down he thought he was gonna die.
 
I haven't paid attention to this thread for a while, but I've had some corona-related hilarity in my parent's neck of the woods that I wanted to share.

First, as of last week, my homestate is officially in a spike that is as bad as the spike that happened the same time last year. In person schooling and letting the vaccinated gather with no masks to spread corona like the plague rats they are has done wonders. The state is RUNNING OUT OF ICU BEDS!!!! just like they did last year. Geeze, if only someone had foreseen this spike, maybe the governor and state agencies could have, idk, ordered more supplies and made preparations with doctors and worked on getting more staff trained or something idk. But nah, instead he goes on rants about how this is all the fault of the unvaccinated. Never mind that a full third of deaths and between 30-50% of new cases are among the vaccinated, just fuck you if you're vaxxxxed and die.

More hilariously though, one of the vaccination sites in my hometown was shut down by the health department because Mexicans are too stupid to give the 5G jab to each other. They basically got slammed on everything they could- improperly storing vials, leaving vials out too long, not adhering to proper sanitary procedures during injection, giving the injections wrong, filling out cards wrong, filling out patient's information wrong, not putting records into the database in the appropriate timeframe or correctly, not report adverse effects. So now the city is desperately trying to track down everyone who was vaccinated at this site and wants to jab them AGAIN. To their shock and dismay, pretty much no one has come forth for this.

The neighboring state where the rest of my family lives is also experiencing a similar spike, but at least their governor pretends to care and reissued mask mandates and capacity limits in stores. I remain hopeful, however, because this is the one place that could outdo my hometown in terms of stupidity.
 
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Isn't that the thing with ivermectin? Unless I'm remembering wrong, doesn't overdosing on it just make you shit and puke? That's kind of the reason the doomering over it was stupid, unless it was human ivermectin, which is different. Btw, those of you who've had covid, how was it? I had it and was shocked that it wasn't that bad, but my brother got it and he swore up and down he thought he was gonna die.
There is a thread for kiwis who have had Covid its interesting. Partner currently battling Covid - day 11 - he has gone from five day week gym goer muscular healthy eating to looking g like a frail old man. Unvaxed. Hoping we have turned a corner - 11 days of hell tbh. He still wouldnt get vaxxed he said and I still regret getting it (had to for work) https://kiwifarms.net/threads/kiwis-kissed-by-corona.67470/page-35#post-10497278
 
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