Animal Breeding Horror Show - Featuring trendy bulldogs, exotic bullies and the dog cum cartel

[CaseyTatumm]

You can become a millionaire by breeding shit tier dogs

It’s sadly true.

 

[XYZpdq]

Agree, shelters can be shady when it comes to getting dogs adopted. There’s a city near me that has a pit bull ban, and because of that, you never see pit bulls in a lot of shelters. You do, however, see “terrier,” “hound” and “boxer” mixes that look suspiciously like pit bulls.

yeah when I was kid we got a puppy that was labelled at the shelter "beagle mix"
meaning she was a german shepherd with floppy ears and a white spot on her tail

she was a good dog but that "mix" was about 99% shepherd / 1 % beagle
she would crunch through soup bones with no particular effort

 

[Spennychu]

 

[CaseyTatumm]

Popping in here to say that a lot of purebred, even AKC registered, dogs end up in shelters. Not to power level, but near me is an Akita breeder and a Cane Corso breeder. These two breeds aren't really the most common to see, in general. Frequently, there are Akitas and Cane Corsos at my local shelter. Now, I don't know if there are any contracts signed between the breeder and the seller about what to do if they want to return the puppy, or if these breeders are worth their salt whatsoever, but I know the dogs in the shelter are from them. Especially the Akita breeder. Whenever a sire or dam gets too old to produce, off to the shelter it goes, most likely to be put down, alone. Plus, people buy puppies thinking only of the cute face, not thinking about how much money it will cost to own a dog, how much training is basically non-optional to just own a dog that isn't a savage idiot, etc. and will simply give the puppy over to a shelter when it becomes a problem. I also know someone who bought a puppy from a reputable breeder, and now that dog is an adult, they will be backyard breeding it.
Basically what I'm getting at is that people will treat dogs as expendable and shelters have dogs that are purebred, possibly even from an ethical breeder.
I'm glad the dogs in this thread will never see the inside of a shelter. They'll die before they even get there.

That’s honestly a bit disturbing to hear that those breeds are winding up in shelters since they aren’t dogs for just anyone. I would imagine people are adopting them because Akitas are adorable and Cane Corsos look cool only to find out they can’t handle them and then returning them to the shelter. I wonder if any breed specific rescues are aware that these dogs (assuming from the local breeder) are ending up in shelters so they can pull them until suitable homes are found?

There’s also been a huge uptick in people buying Malinois….which are totally not dogs for just anyone. I’m not sure if people see videos of the crazy things a TRAINED Malinois can do then assume they can do the same with one. Instead they wind up over their head with a crazy drivey dog that is understimulated and destructive.

I wish people would do their homework before getting dogs, not every breed is for everyone and once you find a breed that works for you, you should probably research bloodlines to make sure you are finding a dog that will fit your lifestyle because energy levels/temperament will still vary depending how the dog is bred.
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Straight Fitch fam

 

[Bunny Tracks]

I would imagine people are adopting them because Akitas are adorable

Or they've heard about how loyal they can be from the story of Hachiko.

The thing with Akitas, though, is that they are very stubborn, independent, and intelligent, and will walk all over you if you don't prove that you're the one in charge, and not them.

Not to mention they were literally bred to hunt bears, and for dog fighting. They're more aloof than aggressive, but if you don't socialize, and train them extremely well, they're gonna be no better than the average ghetto pitbull.

 

[Sleazy Car Salesman]

Or they've heard about how loyal they can be from the story of Hachiko.

The thing with Akitas, though, is that they are very stubborn, independent, and intelligent, and will walk all over you if you don't prove that you're the one in charge, and not them.

Not to mention they were literally bred to hunt bears, and for dog fighting. They're more aloof than aggressive, but if you don't socialize, and train them extremely well, they're gonna be no better than the average ghetto pitbull.

It's the same curse as the Husky and the Malamute really. Big cute fluffy dog that you need to be in charge of but most people aren't capable of it.

 

[Agent Abe Caprine]

I'm always mixed about the whole breeder thing. My dogs both came from a breeder who was thankfully very responsible and cared a lot about her dogs. But I recognize for every good breeder, there's at least ten really shady and bad ones. Like, it's almost night and day how the two types treat their dogs. Especially when looking at all these pictures of these frog dogs.

It's night and day how the dogs from bad breeders act, too. One from a bad breeder is more likely to have mental issues. I hate to say it, but genes do play a part. Keeping bad genes going results in something no one except the breeder benefits from.

Speaking of wild caught animals, all hermit crabs are caught in the wild. There's been attempts at captive breeding that were successful until the babies hatched. They start swimming and crush eachother against the glass. They need a wide open ocean and even a big aquarium cannot replicate that.

Hermit Crab House Captive Breeding Project is trying it out and hopefully succeeds.

Spoiler: Warning: hermit porn

 

[ConSluttant]

Munchkin Cats (this is my opinion, giving a tentative pass looking at the current research)

In my previous post I mentioned dachshunds were bred for a specific reason, to get into those tiny low holes with ease, thus making them short made them for a job. Munchkin cats have a limb deformity that is similar to that in Dachshunds except their purpose is "haha cute" which is what basically all cats are bred for aside from "hunt the vermin pestering my farm". While this could be argued as cruel, it's been found that due to the flexibility of cat's spines, there are not the same back issues as you can find in corgis, dachshunds and other little long stumpy things. A cat's purpose in life and the reason they self domesticated was to catch our vermin and get headpats. Can they efficiently perform this service at this stature? Yes. Yes they can, there is actually a naturally occuring evolutionary trait called "mustelification" where animals, even big cats, are beginning to develop shortened limbs closer to that of mustelids (weasles, ferrets , mink etc.) to become better hunters. If you look at snow leopards you can see this where their legs have become quite short for better ambush hunting. For this reason I don't see breeding this deformity as an issue so long as the cat can live a natural healthy life.

I am adjacent to the munchkin cat breeding community. It is currently one of the most robust and healthy breeding communities in all of cat-dom because everybody is breeding munchkins with the other breeds to get a short legged version of their favorite type of cat. The original munchkin was a mutt - it was a spontaneous mutation in a wild cat population. The trait is dominant and only needs one gene to pass along. The flip side of this is that when a kitten foetus has two munchkin genes, it will never be born alive. So it is highly encouraged to not breed short legs munchkin to short legged munchkin.

Because all munchkins only have one gene to pass along, this means the chances of getting another short kitten is the same ratio as male/female in litters - 5o%. This also means that half the litters are long legged, essentially making them a mutt. Some people will try to sell the long legged ones as munchkins. But I personally think that's stupid. It's not short so what's the point?

Munchkins also seem to take much longer than normal cats to get to sexual maturity. Almost every munchkin queen I have seen didn't start having babies until they were at least 1.5-2 years old. Same for the males. This means they don't get to six months old and start getting knocked up which reduces the population even further.

It's a good sturdy breed and if you want a cat that is more like a dog than a cat, the munchkin is for you.

 

[Pastel]

That’s honestly a bit disturbing to hear that those breeds are winding up in shelters since they aren’t dogs for just anyone. I would imagine people are adopting them because Akitas are adorable and Cane Corsos look cool only to find out they can’t handle them and then returning them to the shelter. I wonder if any breed specific rescues are aware that these dogs (assuming from the local breeder) are ending up in shelters so they can pull them until suitable homes are found?

There’s also been a huge uptick in people buying Malinois….which are totally not dogs for just anyone. I’m not sure if people see videos of the crazy things a TRAINED Malinois can do then assume they can do the same with one. Instead they wind up over their head with a crazy drivey dog that is understimulated and destructive.

I wish people would do their homework before getting dogs, not every breed is for everyone and once you find a breed that works for you, you should probably research bloodlines to make sure you are finding a dog that will fit your lifestyle because energy levels/temperament will still vary depending how the dog is bred.
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Straight Fitch fam

This is the case, yes. My local shelter is unfortunately very populated... All the time. But they aren't a kill shelter. They spend a lot of time and effort relocating dogs to rescues, fosters, and other shelters to hopefully get the animals more exposure to future pet-owners. And because many purebred, or purebred-looking, dogs end up in the shelter, many specific breed rescues will take them off their hands and even foster them within their network. I think this is a wonderful idea because then the foster gets to know the animal personally, and if someone is looking for a specific breed, they can visit that rescue either online or in person.

 

[CaseyTatumm]

Or they've heard about how loyal they can be from the story of Hachiko.

The thing with Akitas, though, is that they are very stubborn, independent, and intelligent, and will walk all over you if you don't prove that you're the one in charge, and not them.

Not to mention they were literally bred to hunt bears, and for dog fighting. They're more aloof than aggressive, but if you don't socialize, and train them extremely well, they're gonna be no better than the average ghetto pitbull.

Exactly and on top of that, they’re usually bigger than your average ghetto pit Bull.

I am adjacent to the munchkin cat breeding community. It is currently one of the most robust and healthy breeding communities in all of cat-dom because everybody is breeding munchkins with the other breeds to get a short legged version of their favorite type of cat. The original munchkin was a mutt - it was a spontaneous mutation in a wild cat population. The trait is dominant and only needs one gene to pass along. The flip side of this is that when a kitten foetus has two munchkin genes, it will never be born alive. So it is highly encouraged to not breed short legs munchkin to short legged munchkin.

Because all munchkins only have one gene to pass along, this means the chances of getting another short kitten is the same ratio as male/female in litters - 5o%. This also means that half the litters are long legged, essentially making them a mutt. Some people will try to sell the long legged ones as munchkins. But I personally think that's stupid. It's not short so what's the point?

Munchkins also seem to take much longer than normal cats to get to sexual maturity. Almost every munchkin queen I have seen didn't start having babies until they were at least 1.5-2 years old. Same for the males. This means they don't get to six months old and start getting knocked up which reduces the population even further.

It's a good sturdy breed and if you want a cat that is more like a dog than a cat, the munchkin is for you.

Very informative! I had no idea that they came from such a large gene pool but that’s pretty awesome!

 

[AnOminous]

I'm confused about how these horrible breeders are actually making money. They say that's what the hustle is about, right? It looks like they're all trading the same buck around. I'm not buying that they're actually cashing in unless some sick normie fucks looks at these deformed animals and go "wow, I need it! This little thing definitely won't die in 48 hours! It's worth the $10,000 price tag!" It just seems like there's no gain if there's no outside influence.

Some of them are really just animal hoarders with an excuse for it and don't really make good money.

 

[Bill The Fucker]

It's too bad there's not really a reliable list or cert for "not shifty breeders". Best advice i can give when looking is to make sure you can meet the parents and see where they sleep. Neither should be a problem for an even semi reputable breeder.

And I really wish people wouldn't advise first time dog owners to adopt. Behavioral issues in shelter dogs are a total crapshoot, and so much harder to handle when you don't know what youre doing.

 

[Kelly's Yeeted Legs]

It's too bad there's not really a reliable list or cert for "not shifty breeders". Best advice i can give when looking is to make sure you can meet the parents and see where they sleep. Neither should be a problem for an even semi reputable breeder.

And I really wish people wouldn't advise first time dog owners to adopt. Behavioral issues in shelter dogs are a total crapshoot, and so much harder to handle when you don't know what youre doing.

Kennel clubs make their money on registrations. They're not going to cut off their income source by being picky about who they do business with. Puppy mills make up the largest source of registration fees.

People buy puppies on impulse, or from pet stores (100% puppy mill production, "local breeders" my ass), or they want the dogs from the latest Disney movie / reality show / viral video / meme (which is why those shitty Shiba Inu are so popular).

There are breeds that firmly resist inclusion in the AKC -- mostly working breeds with a long tradition of breeding for performance rather than looks. The APBT is one of the few breeds the AKC actually didn't want on their roster. This is how you get working dogs with completely separate show and performance lines, e.g. labs, GSDs, etc. Showline GSDs are basically hunchback cripples. Showline labs (aka "English labs") look nothing like hunting lines.

"Purebred" breeding is a safe proxy for people who otherwise would be advocating eugenics. They love to talk about the purity of their lines and how meeting the breed standard alone determines quality. Performance, temperament and health are of very little importance in the show ring as long as things like color and markings are perfect.

You should see the way Dalmatian breeders howled with outrage about allowing LUA (Low Uric Acid) dogs into the registry. Essentially ALL dals have a mutation that results in inability to get rid of uric acid. A breeder back in the 1970s outcrossed to a pointer, a breed without the mutation but of similar size and build. They then bred the unaffected pups back to purebred dals for several generations to reintroduce the gene in the purebred population. It took until 2011 for the AKC to admit these dogs into the registry as purebred.

LUA Dalmatians World - Overcoming Attitude About Crossbreeding

Overcoming 20th Century Attitude About Crossbreeding By Denise Powell In July 2011, the AKC announced that descendants of a 1973 Dalmatian/Pointer crossbred

luadalmatians-world.com

 

[Sleazy Car Salesman]

People buy puppies on impulse, or from pet stores (100% puppy mill production, "local breeders" my ass), or they want the dogs from the latest Disney movie / reality show / viral video / meme (which is why those shitty Shiba Inu are so popular).

Same reason Malinoise or however you spell them are popular right now, John Wick 3.

 

[Krokodil Overdose]

Kennel clubs make their money on registrations. They're not going to cut off their income source by being picky about who they do business with. Puppy mills make up the largest source of registration fees.

People buy puppies on impulse, or from pet stores (100% puppy mill production, "local breeders" my ass), or they want the dogs from the latest Disney movie / reality show / viral video / meme (which is why those shitty Shiba Inu are so popular).

There are breeds that firmly resist inclusion in the AKC -- mostly working breeds with a long tradition of breeding for performance rather than looks. The APBT is one of the few breeds the AKC actually didn't want on their roster. This is how you get working dogs with completely separate show and performance lines, e.g. labs, GSDs, etc. Showline GSDs are basically hunchback cripples. Showline labs (aka "English labs") look nothing like hunting lines.

"Purebred" breeding is a safe proxy for people who otherwise would be advocating eugenics. They love to talk about the purity of their lines and how meeting the breed standard alone determines quality. Performance, temperament and health are of very little importance in the show ring as long as things like color and markings are perfect.

You should see the way Dalmatian breeders howled with outrage about allowing LUA (Low Uric Acid) dogs into the registry. Essentially ALL dals have a mutation that results in inability to get rid of uric acid. A breeder back in the 1970s outcrossed to a pointer, a breed without the mutation but of similar size and build. They then bred the unaffected pups back to purebred dals for several generations to reintroduce the gene in the purebred population. It took until 2011 for the AKC to admit these dogs into the registry as purebred.

LUA Dalmatians World - Overcoming Attitude About Crossbreeding

Overcoming 20th Century Attitude About Crossbreeding By Denise Powell In July 2011, the AKC announced that descendants of a 1973 Dalmatian/Pointer crossbred

luadalmatians-world.com

The way you're describing it, the bully breeders are just a down-market version of the kennel clubs.

This makes a disturbing amount of sense.

Same reason Malinoise or however you spell them are popular right now, John Wick 3.

Malinois. It's got that obnoxious French disconnect between spelling and pronouciation. Also, John Wick 3? Fucking hell, why couldn't they just latch onto the beagle from the first one?

Also, God help us if 4 features a Tibetan Mastiff or a Czech Vlack. We might actually see a noticable dip in the population.

 

[Sleazy Car Salesman]

Also, John Wick 3? Fucking hell, why couldn't they just latch onto the beagle from the first one?

Because of the cult of the badass.

 

[Mepsi Pax]

Showline labs (aka "English labs") look nothing like hunting lines.

Well that explains a lot, I honestly had no idea what that meant (it just looked like a short stubby "lab" to me) but I knew a guy who had one with papers and decided to whore it out. He then sold the puppies and made enough money to buy his fiance a really big obnoxious diamond ring. One of the litter was sold to a co-worker... it was stupid and badly behaved, but the real problems started to come when it was about 2 years old. I don't know what all it had other than some kind of hip issue (dysplasia?) but the co-worker spent a shit-ton of money at the vet and I never saw the dog again. I felt bad for them and didn't ask about it afterwards.

Went to some apartment blocks today and they were all, without exception, FILLED with fucking dogs. Some fat broad's shithound (some kind of collie) even lunged and aggressed at me as she crawled it around the block. Seriously, if you knocked on an apartment door, there was a 50/50 chance of there being one or more dog in there, and close to 100% of one or more dog in the neighboring units that would start barking. I don't know how it's even sustainable. This is mostly lower/working class people consooming dog like they consoom everything else. It's fucked up to have dog (never mind multiple) stuffed into your shitty 1-2 bed bug tower apartment, and this moronic demand is also what's responsible for the breeding horrors, the shelter casualties, etc.

Bonus: One of the apartments contained a wall-eyed TRANNY and it owned a yappy dog that it flirted with, very buffalo bill, much discomfort, wow

 

[Android raptor]

I am adjacent to the munchkin cat breeding community. It is currently one of the most robust and healthy breeding communities in all of cat-dom because everybody is breeding munchkins with the other breeds to get a short legged version of their favorite type of cat. The original munchkin was a mutt - it was a spontaneous mutation in a wild cat population. The trait is dominant and only needs one gene to pass along. The flip side of this is that when a kitten foetus has two munchkin genes, it will never be born alive. So it is highly encouraged to not breed short legs munchkin to short legged munchkin.

Because all munchkins only have one gene to pass along, this means the chances of getting another short kitten is the same ratio as male/female in litters - 5o%. This also means that half the litters are long legged, essentially making them a mutt. Some people will try to sell the long legged ones as munchkins. But I personally think that's stupid. It's not short so what's the point?

Munchkins also seem to take much longer than normal cats to get to sexual maturity. Almost every munchkin queen I have seen didn't start having babies until they were at least 1.5-2 years old. Same for the males. This means they don't get to six months old and start getting knocked up which reduces the population even further.

It's a good sturdy breed and if you want a cat that is more like a dog than a cat, the munchkin is for you.

Do they have dwarfism? I know corgis actually have a form of dwarfism comparable to the most common form in humans that makes their legs short.

 

[ConSluttant]

Do they have dwarfism? I know corgis actually have a form of dwarfism comparable to the most common form in humans that makes their legs short.

Yes. It's precisely achondroplastic dwarfism. Just like in humans and dachshunds and corgi.

 

[Glad I couldn't help]

Me, before reading the OP: Okay, I'm not the world's biggest dog fan, but I don't like pitbulls or many dog breeders. How bad can it be?

Me, after reading the OP:

Here's what I said in the pitbull thread:

A "superior" species takes takes control of another "inferior" species' breeding, making them into violent killing machines, to the point where fighting take precedence over normal biological functions. All for money and thier own amusement. Later, the breeded creatures' descendants were released to stalk, maim and kill other creatures, including other breeding lines of the same species and most ironically, the descendants of the breeders themselves, particularly their young.

It's all very Lovecraftian, isn't it?

Except for the "killing" (because that would imply being able to do something), this applies to the poor fucks featured in thread (the dogs, not the human, fuck them).

Thoughts that have probably already been said, but I need to get off my chest:

• The dogs are really fucking ugly and I cannot understand anybody looking at them think how cute they are.
• Notice how the dogs here seem to not act like dogs usually. No curiosity or playfulness. Seem to be really low energy. I guess that's to be expected; you can't really be playful while struggling to breath or stand up.
• The humans in the photos don't really interact with the dogs like normal people interact with normal (or, at least fucked up) dogs. I think it's how they squat behind the dog semi-supporting their fucked bodies.
• This is sound dumb, but I think these people are worse than the zoosadists. The depravities those degenerates inflict on animals will only last until the animals dies in agonizing pain; but the breeders inflict horrific pain onto generations of animals. Also some of the breeders might zoosadist themselves who get off jerking off dogs.
• There's probably some fine lolcow material among those scum. Wouldn't surprise if, in a year or two, one of those fine gentlemen will discover being featured on the Farms and begin an autistic Jihad to preserve their honor against Null, Kiwi Farms, individual users and any personalities who come between them. They are that stupid, pathetic and evil.