Kyle Rittenhouse Legal Proceedings - Come for the trial, stay for….

[Sekirodiealot]

So, Kyle is officially in Florida and he crossed several states lines.

LIIIINNNEEEEESSSSSSSSS!!!!1!
but in all seriousness, the fact they fixated on state lines will always be funny to me since that's what's going on around the border.

 

[Terrifik]

Facebook declared Kyle Rittenhouse guilty, silencing his defense in the court of public opinion

Facebook tried to suppress any users from supporting Kyle Rittenhouse amid his heated trial — all in the name of stopping “hate speech” in their eyes, the Post Editorial Board writes.

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“We’ve designated the shooting in Kenosha a mass murder and are removing posts in support of the shooter,” Facebook announced barely a week after the event, as it began a truly epic campaign of censorship blatantly at odds with its professed support for free speech.

Just for starters: Killing two people is mass murder now? Sure looks like the social-media giant’s staff just reached for the nearest excuse to suppress posts that conflicted with their personal prejudices — and no higher-up bothered to correct the call.

The blackout went far and wide: Facebook actively policed its users for pro-Kyle Rittenhouse posts and removed the content. It even targeted posts from legal scholars arguing the merits of his self-defense case.

And it made it hard to see even the stuff it didn’t get killed outright. “One of the big things that they did was manipulate the search engine so you couldn’t even find any references to Kyle Rittenhouse,” Dan Gainor, vice president of the Media Research Center, told The Post. “They’re out of touch with normal people.” More broadly, the company explained its blackout thusly: “We don’t allow symbols, praise or support of dangerous individuals or organizations on Facebook. We define dangerous as things like: terrorist activity, organized hate or violence, mass or serial murder, human trafficking, criminal or harmful activity.”
In other words, it found Rittenhouse guilty of crossing some of those lines months before he got his day in court (where he won vindication) — and did its best to ensure he’d be found guilty in the court of public opinion by throwing out nearly all defense arguments and evidence.

We also strongly doubt Facebook applies its supposed ban on support for “dangerous individuals or organizations,” “organized hate” or “criminal or harmful activity” with any consistency. Too many of those terms are far too fuzzy: Legitimate protest, for example, can be technically criminal, and accusations of “organized hate” are all too common.

A truly neutral standard here is the one that GoFundMe applied: It pulled down every defense fund for Rittenhouse, saying its terms of service “prohibit raising money for the legal defense of an alleged violent crime.” As long as it does so for all such funds, that’s not biased.
But Facebook’s staff just couldn’t resist choosing a side. As one employee put it in internal discussions obtained by The Post: “Employees are drunk on the absolute power of being in control of civics in America, without ever having to visit a voting booth (if voting is even an option).”

Social media now qualify for various legal protections by claiming to be “neutral platforms.” Yet Big Tech is developing a strong record of suppressing the truth in the service of clear political bias. Something has to change.

 

[ZehnBoat]

imagine seething that fucking hard

 

[Iceland Heavy]

LIIIINNNEEEEESSSSSSSSS!!!!1!
but in all seriousness, the fact they fixated on state lines will always be funny to me since that's what's going on around the border.
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I always interpreted HE CROOOOSSED STATE LINES as an attempt to liken it to actual crimes involving the crossing of state lines (like trafficking a minor across state lines) based on a cargo cult understanding of law.

 

[AnOminous]

I always interpreted HE CROOOOSSED STATE LINES as an attempt to liken it to actual crimes involving the crossing of state lines (like trafficking a minor across state lines) based on a cargo cult understanding of law.

There's a specific federal statute, rarely used, 18 U.S.C. § 231(a)(2), against "transport[ing] or manufactur[ing] for transportation in commerce any firearm, or explosive or incendiary device, knowing or having reason to know or intending that the same will be used unlawfully in furtherance of a civil disorder[.]"

As others have pointed out, though, the weapon itself never crossed state lines and arguably any transaction where Kyle obtained it wasn't even "commerce." Also, he was never charged with anything involving crossing state lines.

It's really just bleating a dumb meme over and over because it somehow sounds impressive. It's actually entirely irrelevant to any legal issue actually in the case. It might be relevant if the feds manage to gin up some bullshit case, but as of now, he could have come from Mars, it doesn't matter.

 

[Takayuki Yagami]

I just thought of something right now while making a post shortly about about liberal or neoliberal hypocrisy on the criminal justice system.

It used to be, before the election of a WWE Champion to the White House, that conservatives were mocked for making everything about race and "muh niggers" and all that.

First time I have seen, in a incident that was fully 100 percent white where all parties were white. The liberals jumped on the woke bandwagon and made it about race, basically niggers and think of the niglets and all those crying sheboons. There was no mention of blacks during the trial either and Binger didn't find a single thing on Kyle that proved Kyle was a /pol/ tard or some race realist type individual. And they inserted race into it.

The liberals just had to stfu and keep reporting on the trial to a minimum, but there is some agenda that caused them to go full retard. They were more concerned with the Kyle trial than the other trial going on in Georgia. You would think the other trial would be good old fashioned propaganda fodder of some black man shot and killed by a party of three white rednecks, instead they went hard on this trial.

Rittenhouse directly affects their operations. Violent trash that got what was probably coming anyway are a dime a dozen. A doughy, puppy-faced kid blowing away their goons while they’re doing what you told them to makes it hard to follow through on threats. Rittenhouse legit scares them because it implies that things are starting to harden against them, and they can find some hoodrat dying as he lived any time they need a new martyr.

 

[chiobu]

https://twitter.com/ChrisCuomo/status/1464280176381116417

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[MrJokerRager]

I have unexpired food in my refrigerator older than your account, so what the fuck do I care about yet another newshit invasive species piece of garbage shitting up the site with your moronic takes?

I just realized the PC version of the site will show account creation dates but not the mobile version.

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Facebook declared Kyle Rittenhouse guilty, silencing his defense in the court of public opinion

Facebook tried to suppress any users from supporting Kyle Rittenhouse amid his heated trial — all in the name of stopping “hate speech” in their eyes, the Post Editorial Board writes.

nypost.com

Most of that Facebook hate speech board or editorial board are not even Americans but like cosmopolitan upper middle class folks from around the globe. IIRC there is like only one or two Americans on it in a total group of like 20.

Rittenhouse directly affects their operations. Violent trash that got what was probably coming anyway are a dime a dozen. A doughy, puppy-faced kid blowing away their goons while they’re doing what you told them to makes it hard to follow through on threats. Rittenhouse legit scares them because it implies that things are starting to harden against them, and they can find some hoodrat dying as he lived any time they need a new martyr.

Apparently the numbers came in recently and gun control support overall is dropping.

 

[A_throwaway_name62919]

First time I have seen, in a incident that was fully 100 percent white where all parties were white. The liberals jumped on the woke bandwagon and made it about race, basically niggers and think of the niglets and all those crying sheboons. There was no mention of blacks during the trial either and Binger didn't find a single thing on Kyle that proved Kyle was a /pol/ tard or some race realist type individual. And they inserted race into it.

The liberals just had to stfu and keep reporting on the trial to a minimum, but there is some agenda that caused them to go full retard. They were more concerned with the Kyle trial than the other trial going on in Georgia. You would think the other trial would be good old fashioned propaganda fodder of some black man shot and killed by a party of three white rednecks, instead they went hard on this trial.

The Arbery trial was sort of a nothing burger. Wannabe vigilantes botch an attempt at a citizen's arrest and kill a guy. There's sufficient outrage that it can't simply be swept under the rug. They get investigated and charged, and the law gets changed to discourage future citizens arrest attempts. There's no broad swelling of support for the three culprits, and the facts of the case are damning enough that the prosecution need play no games. So by the time they hit trial, there were really no hay left to make. They weren't cops so people couldn't beat the "cops bad" drum. The fault was obviously with the citizens arrest law and not gun control laws, and the citizens arrest law was already having something be done about it, so there's no real angle to push there. Short of the men being unexpectedly acquitted there wasn't much in the way of headlines to be made, outrage to be fired up, or agenda's to be pushed. It was just punishing some idiots for getting someone killed with their ineptness.

Kyle's case on the other hand had plenty to push an agenda on. He was a 17 year old kid who'd shot a few violent rioters with one of those oh-so-scary AR-15s. That's a precedent that's scary as fuck to the agenda pushers who constantly vilify "assault weapons" "like the AR-15" to push bad gun control laws, and the agenda pushers who condoned the BLM riots by insisting that they were just "protests" even as millions of dollars of damage was inflicted and people were killed. So they really wanted to make an example of him so that other people didn't get ideas about shooting violent protestors attacking people, and people couldn't point to his case as an example of an AR-15 being used for legitimate self defense. So they went full bore smearing him and full retard trying to get him convicted, despite the law and the facts of the case being against them. And having failed that, they're pushing his acquittal as a corruption of justice in hopes of drumming up enough outrage that they can get something out of it, such as changes to the law that'd make a repeat more difficult.

 

[Drunk and Pour]

This Rittenhouse guy shows how deeply hypocritical "americans" are.

First off: why did you care so much about the outcome of the Rittenhouse legal case?
You care because apparently kyle was acting on his self defence rights and you think the government should protect those rights. Why? Why should the GOVERNMENT defend YOUR self defence rights? Shouldn't YOU defend those rights? Why care what the apparently "liberal dictatorship" courts thinks?

Secondly: why did you care about rittenhouse AT ALL?
You care because rittenhouse was the one guy who stood up and protected his city from looters. Well you now what? Blm antifa has for several years started HUNDREDS of riots, burned down THOUSANDS of small businesses, affecting MILLIONS of hardworking americans for damages worth BILLIONS of dollars. In all that time, gun owning "americans" did NOTHING. Is the real issue the single guy who did something OR the ocean of patriots who did NOT?

What is "hypocritical"? I assume you aren't American. The Constitution, and therefore the government, are supposed to protect our rights. And that's the problem. If the "liberal" (they aren't) dictatorship courts won't protect our rights, there isn't much any single person can do about it.

That's why we care about the Rittenhouse case. It was clear from the start that this was 100% self defense, and the prosecution made themselves look like clowns trying to prove other wise. It offers a glimmer of hope that the rule of law isn't completely gone. Leftist governments and prosecutors let BLM and Antifa get away with all the damages, and people that do stand up, like the Proud Boys or Patriot Prayer, are called White Supremacists, and people like David Dorn, the black ex-police officer who was killed protecting a business, get swept under the rug.

The "american" hypocritical mindset, ocne again


Right there. RIGHT there. if a corrupt court rules over you why seethe on an internet forum about its corruptness instead of removing it? What if George Washington had seethed about the british empire instead of fighting?



The "american" mind takes either of these as examples of "standing up"

Again, what is hypocritical? Besides voting them out, which we are trying to do, how else do you remove them? We saw how well using force worked out with the Whitmore kidnapping conspiracy and the 1/6 mostly peaceful protests, which both of those were probably the brain child of Federal agents.

I don't think George Washington had the internet back then. Idk, I'll have to look it up.

Not arguing for anything. Just arguing that "americans" are hypocritical.
A racist, violent mob/organization is running amok in your country and you are too "chickenhawk" to do anything about but seethe. I'm arguing it's amusing if anything.

Why do you keep putting "americans" in quotation marks? Sure, it's amusing, that's why I'm here. But it's scary at the same time. I have gallows humor.

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So Chris "I'll throw you down a flight of stairs" Cuomo doesn't like the idea of not being able to beat someone up smaller than him? That's why guns are called "the great equalizer". I feel bad for his wife and kids when he goes into roid rage mode.

 

[AnOminous]

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Fuck this little cuck. Let's call "duty to retreat" what it really is. Duty to die. It relies on the idea that as soon as you turn your back on the monster trying to kill you, he's just going to decide he's going to be a nice guy from now on.

 

[Dr. Ricearoni]

Fuck this little cuck. Let's call "duty to retreat" what it really is. Duty to die. It relies on the idea that as soon as you turn your back on the monster trying to kill you, he's just going to decide he's going to be a nice guy from now on.

I know at least Ohio did away with it either this year or the last year. Hopefully more places move to Stand Your Ground if things start heating up.

 

[Urbanmech]

Confirmed PhotoChad on Rekieta Monday at a time with the lawyer panel.

 

[MarvinTheParanoidAndroid]

Why are niggers so butthurt over a hispanic kid successfully shooting three mayo degenerates.

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This entire article is dripping with attempted sarcasm but the parts where he's being sarcastic are all logically sound, except for where he keeps insisting on calling an AR-15 an "assault rifle."

This is like how Archie Bunker was meant to be satire and came off as relatable instead.

 

[FAQnews Correspondent]

This entire article is dripping with attempted sarcasm but the parts where he's being sarcastic are all logically sound, except for where he keeps insisting on calling an AR-15 an "assault rifle."

This is like how Archie Bunker was meant to be satire and came off as relatable instead.

I guess Archie Bunker was the first in a long line of the satire being so relatable or cool that they get unironically adopted by the targets of the satire.

 

[Vaclav]

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Behold, the decline of Western civilization in 2 minutes 39 seconds. Took me a minute to realize that the gun is an NES Zapper.

 

[MarvinTheParanoidAndroid]

I have unexpired food in my refrigerator older than your account, so what the fuck do I care about yet another newshit invasive species piece of garbage shitting up the site with your moronic takes?

How does it feel to vote for a pedophile?

 

[TheClappening]

I know at least Ohio did away with it either this year or the last year. Hopefully more places move to Stand Your Ground if things start heating up.

Interestingly, California, of all places, has stand your ground measures in place. It's not a codified statute, but there is case law and jury instructions that make it stand your ground in practice.

CALCRIM No. 505. Justifiable Homicide: Self-Defense or Defense of Another

Justia - California Criminal Jury Instructions (CALCRIM) (2020) 505. Justifiable Homicide: Self-Defense or Defense of Another - Free Legal Information - Laws, Blogs, Legal Services and More

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A defendant is not required to retreat. He or she is entitled to stand his or her ground and defend himself or herself and, if reasonably necessary, to pursue an assailant until the danger of (death/great bodily injury/<insert forcible and atrocious crime>) has passed. This is so even if safety could have been achieved by retreating.

...

The People have the burden of proving beyond a reasonable doubt that the [attempted] killing was not justified. If the People have not met this burden, you must find the defendant not guilty of (murder/ [or]manslaughter/ attempted murder/ [or] attempted voluntary manslaughter

Of course, that means you'll have to take it up with a jury, and you're most likely fucked if you ever have to defend yourself with deadly force, but at least they try.

 

[FunPosting101]

Spoiler: really gross

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[MrJokerRager]

Interestingly, California, of all places, has stand your ground measures in place. It's not a codified statute, but there is case law and jury instructions that make it stand your ground in practice.

CALCRIM No. 505. Justifiable Homicide: Self-Defense or Defense of Another

Justia - California Criminal Jury Instructions (CALCRIM) (2020) 505. Justifiable Homicide: Self-Defense or Defense of Another - Free Legal Information - Laws, Blogs, Legal Services and More

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Of course, that means you'll have to take it up with a jury, and you're most likely fucked if you ever have to defend yourself with deadly force, but at least they try.

There was a self defense shooting against a home invasion a while ago in California and no one got charged. There was also the recent self defense shooting by a former police chief against a bunch of niglets and no one got charged there though he was a former police chief so he got some pull.

Depends on the jurisdiction in question though I imagine someone in San Francisco or Oakland is fucked if a regular joe. There are no gun stores literally in San Francisco so all the fags drive out into the cities east of the city to get their guns.