Cultcow Russell Greer / Mr. Green / @ just_some_dude_named_russell29 / A Safer Nevada PAC - Swift-Obsessed Sex Pest, Convicted of E-Stalking, "Eggshell Skull Plaintiff" Pro Se Litigant, Homeless, aspiring brothel owner

[Star Platinum]

That's why I don't think he'd try to overpower a woman and rape by force, he couldn't square that with his Nice Guy fantasy.

Russ has explicitly stated that he does not believe rape would be immoral or wrong if it was legalized.

 

[Kumquat]

Even if he was smart enough to pull that off, he wouldn't, because it would clash with his view of himself as a good person. He can justify a lot to himself, but he'd have a hard time justifying straight up fraud. There's no way he could dress it up as anything other than breaking the law. With Erika, he thought he was justified in harassing her because she had to let him explain, and she wouldn't! That's why I don't think he'd try to overpower a woman and rape by force, he couldn't square that with his Nice Guy fantasy. I could totally see him blackmailing or otherwise coercing a woman to fuck him, because he's tried that. His lawsuits against Swift and Grande were just thinly veiled attempts to force them to fuck him. His suicide threat to Erika was also an attempt at emotional blackmail. He felt justified in those for reasons that have been discussed to death, but just using physical violence doesn't seem his style (and he'd get his ass handed to him too).

I know we've hashed over this a million times already, but fuck it. I like psychological analysis, and there's not much else to talk about that also hasn't been done to death.

Russell's abstinence from being a full-blown criminal isn't because of his "nice guy" persona, at least not in my eyes. I said this before, but Russell is a massive narcissist and literally cannot relate with other humans. He views other people as NPCs in a video game.

Think of a game like Skyrim. Let's say I walk into Whiterun and just start murdering people left and right for no reason. There's nothing wrong with that morally, because it's a video game, they aren't real people, and nobody is being hurt. But it's inconvenient to me as a player because it puts a bounty on my head, cancels several questlines, and makes the Whiterun guards attack me on sight, so I can't go to Whiterun ever again. I don't refrain from wanton slaughter in Skyrim because it's immoral, I refrain because it severely limits my enjoyment of the game by essentially locking me out from a good portion of the content.

I believe Russell, like many psychopaths and narcissists, views crimes in real life much the same way. It's not that he's bound by morals - we have plenty of instances where he's made it clear that his moral compass is skewed at best - it's that committing a crime would be terribly inconvenient for him. It's hard to file frivolous lawsuits and woo thots on Instagram from a jail cell, so he tries to keep himself from doing things that will land him in jail for that reason.

TL;DR: Russell doesn't give a shit about morality, only about what's convenient for him. Prison is an inconvenience, so he tries to avoid it.

 

[AngryTreeRat]

I know we've hashed over this a million times already, but fuck it. I like psychological analysis, and there's not much else to talk about that also hasn't been done to death.

Russell's abstinence from being a full-blown criminal isn't because of his "nice guy" persona, at least not in my eyes. I said this before, but Russell is a massive narcissist and literally cannot relate with other humans. He views other people as NPCs in a video game.

Think of a game like Skyrim. Let's say I walk into Whiterun and just start murdering people left and right for no reason. There's nothing wrong with that morally, because it's a video game, they aren't real people, and nobody is being hurt. But it's inconvenient to me as a player because it puts a bounty on my head, cancels several questlines, and makes the Whiterun guards attack me on sight, so I can't go to Whiterun ever again. I don't refrain from wanton slaughter in Skyrim because it's immoral, I refrain because it severely limits my enjoyment of the game by essentially locking me out from a good portion of the content.

I believe Russell, like many psychopaths and narcissists, views crimes in real life much the same way. It's not that he's bound by morals - we have plenty of instances where he's made it clear that his moral compass is skewed at best - it's that committing a crime would be terribly inconvenient for him. It's hard to file frivolous lawsuits and woo thots on Instagram from a jail cell, so he tries to keep himself from doing things that will land him in jail for that reason.

TL;DR: Russell doesn't give a shit about morality, only about what's convenient for him. Prison is an inconvenience, so he tries to avoid it.

Wait... There's nonessential quest NPCs in Skyrim? Anytime I've felt like murdering someone in that game that wasn't an uppity nigger they were all essential due to some quest. Personally I just hope I'm a quest NPC in a Bethesda game so I never get murdered.

 

[Constellationzero]

He'd have to be able to convince people he fell. He'd have to be better at lying.

He'd be an even better Scientologist since the greasy fuck can't shut his dead corpse eyes.

Russell's abstinence from being a full-blown criminal isn't because of his "nice guy" persona, at least not in my eyes. I said this before, but Russell is a massive narcissist and literally cannot relate with other humans. He views other people as NPCs in a video game.

Russell got what he got with Erika because he had a rare experience with someone catching him off guard. In this case, it was both Erika who stood up to him and did not flinch or back down, then with the boyfriend, Chad. Whether it was Erika, the boyfriend, or a combination of both, Russtard was caught off balance and off guard, triggering hilarity for us and some misery for Erika.
It's only a matter of when, not if. Somewhere down the road, gourdhead is going to get knocked off balance. The good news is there's now a paper trail.

 

[Papyrus]

I thought I'd check Google for any updates on the PAC. Bingo.

It's the official Russell Greer Telethon kickoff. Callers from around the world will come together to support the dream of one man: to get him his penis sucked.

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[RodgerDodger]

I thought I'd check Google for any updates on the PAC. Bingo.

It's the official Russell Greer Telethon kickoff. Callers from around the world will come together to support the dream of one man: to get him his penis sucked.
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His phones will be jammed with irate hookers denouncing the creep.

 

[WhaleOilBeefHooked]

From what legal Kiwis have said here and in other threads for litigious cows previously, it seems to be uncommon for perjury committed in court filings to actually be prosecuted. If you provably lie to the FBI, sure, you'll get smacked down hard, but apparently not if you make up a bunch of shit in your frivolous lawsuits.

Also, it's good to keep in mind that we only have Russhole's version of this event, which he described in his "Why I Sued Taylor Swift" book--a book that has been found to contain a multitude of inaccuracies, exaggerations, and completely made up events (such as Russhole doing flips and aerial somersaults, the firebombing of his imaginary friend Ken, etc.). The judge may in fact have accused Russhole of fabricating the letter. The judge may also have simply refused to allow the letter to be submitted into evidence as it wasn't a notarized affidavit and Hof didn't show up to the trial to confirm those were his words. Maybe the judge said something like "I have no proof that this was written by Mr. Hof; it could have been written by you for all I know," which was twisted around and blown up by Russhole into yet another instance of a mean "bias" judge yelling at him and not allowing him to show his awesome evidence because he hates the disabled, yadda yadda.

This is all speculation on my part of course, but Russhole is an extremely unreliable narrator so we always have to take his side of the story with a whole cargo ship's worth of salt.

I don't understand why the court didn't sanction him for that. Isn't submitting forged documents to the court considered perjury?

Viridian is right, there would be no way to confirm beyond a reasonable doubt that Russell wrote it so he can't be guilty of perjury, even we're only 99% sure. There's no way to confirm who wrote the letter so it would just get tossed out. The judge probably explained this to Russell and he didn't listen.

He'd be an even better Scientologist since the greasy fuck can't shut his dead corpse eyes.

I'm pretty sure Scientology prefers to target people who have money to give them.

 

[The Dude]

Hey, that's two more dollars than she had before! Would other guys give her extra money?! She doesn't know how lucky she is!


That was hilarious that he thought some trinket that Hof gave out to everyone was valuable. It was even funnier that he thought he was going to be on TV.

Russ trying to get on Pawn Stars is just another example that he is a born loser and perpetual failure. Everything he has ever tried to accomplish from law suits, to getting famous and rich, to A-WOO-HOO-HOO-ing women with his wooing words has utterly failed. And it's never his fault, of course. It's because everyone is a bigot who discriminates the disabled.

Well if it wasn’t for Kiwifarms. Russel would just be finishing up his new song while his wife Taylor Greer would be be serving up their Thanksgiving feast.

Now Russel has to live a life where even prostitutes hate him all because of bullies on this website who call him “shit lips” and “rat mouth”. I hope you guys are happy you have broken Russell’s heart and made him cry.

Very happy, thank you. Couldn't have happened to a more deserving guy.

Russ posted a picture of a U-Haul trailer on the back of a car (I think it was the same car as the one he took a picture of in the driver's seat) when he was moving. We came to the conclusion his dad was driving him out, but I don't remember exactly why we thought that. He might have mentioned his dad or something.

One thing that's odd though, is that if Rat Mouth can't drive because of his disability, why doesn't he ever include that in his list of impairments in his lawsuit? Most Americans would consider losing the ability to drive very life altering and a legitimate hardship, instead he focuses on stuff like "I can't smile and therefore girls won't suck my pee-pee". He really is an odd duck in what he hides, what he forgets or disregards, and what he brings attention to.

Thanks for the reminder. I had totally forgotten. It's not surprising, as Russhole is too inept and incompetent to be able to move himself alone and unaided.

If they did have him on TV it would have been to simply laugh at the spaz and tell him that those tokens are worthless. Then to see him rage as once more life gives him the middle finger.

His stupid fucking Hof coin isn't even made from metal that would have been worth buying to melt down. It's basically a glorified arcade token and worth even less, because you can at least play pinball with an arcade token.

RE: The font. Null must be really bored today. I like it, it adds a medieval feel to our dunking on Russ.

Ye Olde Bambooneth.

 

[Pee Cola]

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I had no idea that Nevada was illegal.

 

[L. Ron Hubbard's Cat]

From what legal Kiwis have said here and in other threads for litigious cows previously, it seems to be uncommon for perjury committed in court filings to actually be prosecuted. If you provably lie to the FBI, sure, you'll get smacked down hard, but apparently not if you make up a bunch of shit in your frivolous lawsuits.

Also, it's good to keep in mind that we only have Russhole's version of this event, which he described in his "Why I Sued Taylor Swift" book--a book that has been found to contain a multitude of inaccuracies, exaggerations, and completely made up events (such as Russhole doing flips and aerial somersaults, the firebombing of his imaginary friend Ken, etc.). The judge may in fact have accused Russhole of fabricating the letter. The judge may also have simply refused to allow the letter to be submitted into evidence as it wasn't a notarized affidavit and Hof didn't show up to the trial to confirm those were his words. Maybe the judge said something like "I have no proof that this was written by Mr. Hof; it could have been written by you for all I know," which was twisted around and blown up by Russhole into yet another instance of a mean "bias" judge yelling at him and not allowing him to show his awesome evidence because he hates the disabled, yadda yadda.

This is all speculation on my part of course, but Russhole is an extremely unreliable narrator so we always have to take his side of the story with a whole cargo ship's worth of salt.

I agree with you that Russ is incredibly unreliable, but the bombshell that he faked the Hof letter didn't come from him or the court. It was his former manager on Nick's show. He said that Russ showed him a letter that was pretty much identical to the Hof letter and asked him to proofread it.

I know we've hashed over this a million times already, but fuck it. I like psychological analysis, and there's not much else to talk about that also hasn't been done to death.

Russell's abstinence from being a full-blown criminal isn't because of his "nice guy" persona, at least not in my eyes. I said this before, but Russell is a massive narcissist and literally cannot relate with other humans. He views other people as NPCs in a video game.

Think of a game like Skyrim. Let's say I walk into Whiterun and just start murdering people left and right for no reason. There's nothing wrong with that morally, because it's a video game, they aren't real people, and nobody is being hurt. But it's inconvenient to me as a player because it puts a bounty on my head, cancels several questlines, and makes the Whiterun guards attack me on sight, so I can't go to Whiterun ever again. I don't refrain from wanton slaughter in Skyrim because it's immoral, I refrain because it severely limits my enjoyment of the game by essentially locking me out from a good portion of the content.

I believe Russell, like many psychopaths and narcissists, views crimes in real life much the same way. It's not that he's bound by morals - we have plenty of instances where he's made it clear that his moral compass is skewed at best - it's that committing a crime would be terribly inconvenient for him. It's hard to file frivolous lawsuits and woo thots on Instagram from a jail cell, so he tries to keep himself from doing things that will land him in jail for that reason.

TL;DR: Russell doesn't give a shit about morality, only about what's convenient for him. Prison is an inconvenience, so he tries to avoid it.

Agreed. What people kinda miss sometimes about Russ's "good guy" self-concept is that he doesn't think he ought to play by the same rules as anyone else. He went on religious mission and went to strip clubs and didn't even have the sense to keep it on the downlow, not just because he's an exceptional individual, but because he didn't think it was worth getting mad about. He's one of those people for whom religion is 100% a means of being superior to the heathens, and for assuring his place in this world (and the next). It's not a moral guide. It's a contract. He does X, god promises him Y. He's a lot like Melinda in that regard. But god wasn't giving him a girlfriend, so he went to a strip club. Fuck you, god. Russ was owed a wife and he didn't get one, so he'll find another way to get laid and force a woman to obey him.

He openly patronizes prostitutes in areas where it's illegal, because he feels entitled to do so regardless of the legality. Legalizing prostitution per se is an afterthought -- it's about inconvenience (having to go to a brothel) and power (being able to force women to serve him/protecting himself from "fraud" when he feels ripped off/legislating his acceptance into brothels so he can be the biggest douchebag he wants and never be denied entry). He isn't taking a principled stance. We all know this, right?

He thinks he's a good guy, but he doesn't define that the way anyone else on earth does because he's a malignant little shit. He checked the boxes, so he should get the reward, and if no one will willingly give him the reward, he'll force them. That's true whether it's offering flowers to a whore or submitting an audition tape for AGT. He made the effort, he gets the prize. And if you won't give it to him, he'll make you (by suing you) or just take it (by flaunting your petty "laws" and "morality," neither of which fundamentally apply to him).

Adriana Grande seriously, truly insulted him by visiting her fans in the hospital after the terror attack at her concert. Russ couldn't believe that he wore a suit and didn't even get a compliment, but some fucking nine year old who made NO EFFORT and merely got her legs blown off got ALL THE ATTENTION. We laugh, but consider for a second how pathological that thinking is.

AGT seems to regularly feature disabled contestants (I don't watch, so I wouldn't know) and some of them seem to go quite far in the competition, or even win. But they're not disabled the way Russ is disabled. He's had it worse. So what if you're deaf? No one's ever called you Ratface. So what if you're in a wheelchair? You've never had to repeat yourself to be understood. Russ is inspiring; you're just a gimp. Whatever effort you made was nothing compared to the effort he made. Russ is possibly the greatest man who ever lived, but no one will give him what he wants because of his face, and that's unfair. You're just an ordinary person with a disability, so who cares about you? It's not like you'd be the greatest guy in the world if you weren't disabled, so it's totally fair if you take second place in the competition.

Rules are very much for other people, not for Russell Greer. He'll make sure you follow the rules and look down on you if you don't, because you're just a peasant. He's the king. He's the deformed ubermensch who society exists to serve and who can't be expected to play by the rules of the little guy. He does what he wants, and if he does something that aligns with what other people think is "good," that's just evidence of his magnanimity and righteousness, and when you think about it, just more proof that he's better than you and the rules don't apply. He doesn't need rules to be good. He occasionally does it spontaneously. What a guy.

So yeah. I am convinced that he will absolutely hurt someone someday. He'll follow the script, she'll reject him anyway, and he'll feel tired of being "walked over" and "stand up for himself" and take what's rightfully his (or try to). This won't affect his image of himself as the good guy, because he'd simply be taking what he was owed. In fact, he'll just come out of it feeling more misunderstood and persecuted. He has anxiety, you know. He can't help himself. It's wrong of you to hold him accountable, especially when he was just taking what he deserved.

Hof may not have written that letter, but it's what happened and if only Hof were more honest, he would've written a letter just like it. So does it really matter if Russ wrote it himself and signed Hof's name? It's in the name of the greater good and it's not like Russ was making stuff up. Russ was 100% right to bring that legal action, so when you think about it, it's actually more immoral for him not to face evidence and then lose. That's just injustice right there. And besides, everyone else is an idiot and Russ will never get caught. And if he does, his parents will bail him out, and it'll look really bad in the media for the bias judge to put a poor disabled man in jail.

Right?

 

[Viridian]

He was mad that Hof didn't show up to testify too. He also wanted to sue Hof for not testifying on his behalf. Didn't the case get tossed?

Yes, Russhole lost his lawsuit against the sex worker he ran out the clock with and didn't get him his penis sucked by her as a result. However, the sex worker successfully petitioned to get a restraining order against Russhole because he had been harassing her. This is something Russhole admitted not only in his book but in some past Facebook posts (where he tried to act like it was just a "funny misunderstanding" and claims the judge was "cool about it").

@GargoyleGorl, don't get me wrong: I absolutely believe that Russhole wrote that letter himself, both because of what his past boss said on Rekieta's stream and because the style/phrasings/tone of writing in the letter very much matches Russhole's persecution prose. What I'm questioning is whether the judge actually outright accused Russhole of writing the letter, in response to people wondering why Russhole didn't get hit with a perjury charge if the trial in question went down the way he described it in his book. Maybe he did, but he also may have simply tossed out the letter because it wasn't notarized and therefore was inadmissible. Russhole would have perceived this as a personal attack and DISCRIMUNASHUN regardless of which case is true.

Either way, Russhole writing in his book that the mean bias judge (who totally hates the disabled, natch) dared to question the legitimacy of the (fake) letter and yelled at him about it was (in my opinion) a definite display of guilty conscience on his part. Sure, he's absolutely rationalized faking the letter (because everything he does--legal or illegal--is right and justified in his own mind, which is why he never sincerely apologizes for anything), but he still feels compelled to point out to his audience that he didn't do it, he swears, that judge was wrong to think otherwise! Which we never would have known about the judge if he hadn't brought it up himself.

 

[L. Ron Hubbard's Cat]

Yes, Russhole lost his lawsuit against the sex worker he ran out the clock with and didn't get him his penis sucked by her as a result. However, the sex worker successfully petitioned to get a restraining order against Russhole because he had been harassing her. This is something Russhole admitted not only in his book but in some past Facebook posts (where he tried to act like it was just a "funny misunderstanding" and claims the judge was "cool about it").

@GargoyleGorl, don't get me wrong: I absolutely believe that Russhole wrote that letter himself, both because of what his past boss said on Rekieta's stream and because the style/phrasings/tone of writing in the letter very much matches Russhole's persecution prose. What I'm questioning is whether the judge actually outright accused Russhole of writing the letter, in response to people wondering why Russhole didn't get hit with a perjury charge if the trial in question went down the way he described it in his book. Maybe he did, but he also may have simply tossed out the letter because it wasn't notarized and therefore was inadmissible.

Either way, Russhole writing in his book that the mean bias judge (who totally hates the disabled, natch) dared to question the legitimacy of the (fake) letter and yelled at him about it was (in my opinion) a definite display of guilty conscience on his part. Sure, he's absolutely rationalized faking the letter (because everything he does--legal or illegal--is right and justified in his own mind), but he still feels compelled to point out to his audience that he didn't do it, he swears, that judge was wrong to think otherwise! Which we never would have known about the judge if he hadn't brought it up himself.

My bad, I misunderstood.

I'm totally with you.

 

[AbraCadaver]

Russ is one of those low-intellect individuals who think that right and wrong is exactly the same thing as legal and illegal. If it’s wrong to do X, it would be illegal to do X. If it’s not illegal, it’s not morally wrong. This is why he states that forcing a woman to have sex with him by law because of his disability would not be rape, because it would be legal, and therefore not be rape. In Russ’ mind, rape is not the sexual forcing of yourself onto a person against their wishes…it’s just a legal term, so if said forced act is legalized, it is no longer rape. He does not see rape itself as a terrible act. He sees it as a legal term that means you’re in trouble for doing it if someone catches you. So if it’s legal to do so, it’s no longer a bad thing, because only bad things have legal consequences.

Kohlberg’s hierarchy of morality states that the very lowest, and most childlike, of moral codes is to do the right thing purely in order to avoid punishment by authority figures. Basically, “don’t hit the other children while playing, or you’ll get a spanking.” This moral code always follows the letter of the law. Right and wrong are defined entirely by what is legal or illegal.

At the very top of the hierarchy is the most evolved sense of moral code, the sense of doing the right thing in life because there is a universal duty as a human being to adhere to higher, self-selected morals. It sometimes goes against the letter of the law, because sometimes the greater good transcends laws. “I broke into that store to steal medicine to save a child’s life, even though the owner refused to sell it to me, because it was the right thing to do and I couldn’t live with myself if I let the child die.” (Note that this is breaking the law on behalf of another, with no personal gain involved, and being prepared to accept the legal consequences for doing so, in the name of upholding your morals. Breaking into the store to steal the medicine for yourself would fall into a lower tier.)

Russ is firmly stuck in the bottom tier, the child stage, of only doing the right thing as it is dictated to him by parents and the law, in order to avoid punishment from authority figures. This also allows him to ignore any sense of morality, because if he thinks he won’t get caught, then it isn’t wrong, or if he pleads his case to authority figures and they change their mind and allow it, then it isn’t wrong. Deciding what is moral or immoral is left to authority figures themselves.

Forcing Taylor Swift to hand over her fortune and become his sex maid isn’t wrong to Russ, if a judge says she has to do it. If it has a legal blessing, then it is morally right and acceptable. This is why Russ can’t understand how dying children get celebrity visits and he doesn’t. They BOTH asked, and he worked harder (he thinks) for the privilege, so he should also get a visit. Nuance, compassion, selflessness and sacrifice do not factor into this level of morality.

It’s also not illegal to call TayTay’s dying mum a gross pig with cancer, so why is everyone angry about it?? It’s not illegal to harass her family with gifts, so why is the family upset about it? Things are only bad to do if there is a clear punishment stated for them by authorities…and even then, if Russ can get the authorities to change their minds, then whatever he did will automatically be morally correct.

Kohlberg also puts tier one and two, the “avoiding punishment” and “self-interest/what’s in it for me?” tiers, in the preconventional, or pre-moral stage, the bottom of three. Children inhabit this stage and are supposed to grow out of it very quickly. Russ has not.

Russ has never once shown that he has developed beyond the pre-moral stages. He does things because he wants to, and when caught, he lies or makes up excuses to avoid punishment, or appeals to authority to change the rules or make an exception so that what he was doing wrong will now be legally considered “right” and he will avoid punishment or bad consequences.

Russ has the morals of a two-year old child, and always will.

 

[moocow]

I looked at the website, and how much you want to bet that none of the women in the "Our Girls" section actually work there? And those Asian rub and tug places are hotbeds of human trafficking.

Yeah, they never put real photos on those sites. Their actual "staff" changes regularly (because it's almost always a trafficking front), so it'd be a nuisance to have to continually keep the site updated with current photos. Not to mention it wouldn't be very smart to post high-quality photos of their trafficking victims on a publicly-accessible site to make it easier for the feds to spot them in person during a raid.

And more superficially, the women they've manipulated into working at these places tend not to be as attractive as the models shown in those photos.

He picked local girls off Backpage, and has never mentioned using any of the escort sites, some of which stayed up even after FOSTA/SESTA passed.

They all just moved off-shore. Great job, Congress. Totally stopped that trade dead in its tracks.

Russ is one of those low-intellect individuals who think that right and wrong is exactly the same thing as legal and illegal. If it’s wrong to do X, it would be illegal to do X. If it’s not illegal, it’s not morally wrong.

The woketards all do this as well, especially when it comes to censorship. They're always so happy to smugly remind everyone who complains about censorship that "only the government can censor; [X] is a private company and can do whatever they want!"

Legality does not equal morality.

 

[AbraCadaver]

The woketards all do this as well, especially when it comes to censorship. They're always so happy to smugly remind everyone who complains about censorship that "only the government can censor; [X] is a private company and can do whatever they want!"

Until it becomes an issue where some private website (or collection of australian farmers) is using Naughty Words and must be canceled for the good of humanity. Then all bets are off.

The terminally woke are, tbf, usually above the first levels of morality. They act on behalf of others or as a group, not as an entirely self-absorbed single individual, and they decry authority figures, demanding police be defunded, saying that just because something is law, doesn’t make it right.

Tier three, in the Conventional moral stage, is where the idea of acting moral to garner praise, or a reputation for being a good person, comes in. Tier four is a sense of justice, the beginnings of actual right and wrong regardless of personal benefit, while still giving due to the stability of law and order. This is where most people hang about.

Russ is squarely down on tiers one and two, believing that the very act of declaring something legal actually makes it moral. Like if outright murder or child trafficking were declared legal, they would no longer be morally wrong.

 

[FernandoPooTragedy]

Hey does anyone have the doc where Russ threatened to kill himself on Erika's porch? I can't seem to find it.

If this were ancient times and Kiwi Farms was a small town, would that make Russ the village idiot?

If this were medieval times, Russ would have been left out on the side of the street as a baby to be taken by animals or the elements. Which is sad, because then a village would be denied an idiot to throw rocks at.

Or they wouldn't have noticed the Moebius until too late and then he eventually would have been shipped off to a monastery where he would run away before long because Russ hates boundaries. And if he managed not to get killed after that, he'd be castrated for trying to perv on the medieval equivalent of Heidi Klum and Taylor Swift, so... Eleanor of Aquitaine and Hildegard von Bingen, I guess.

 

[DumbDude42]

Or they wouldn't have noticed the Moebius until too late

the permanently open drool mouth is hard to miss, and it's present from birth.

 

[Rustled Jimmies]

Hey does anyone have the doc where Russ threatened to kill himself on Erika's porch? I can't seem to find it.

If this were medieval times, Russ would have been left out on the side of the street as a baby to be taken by animals or the elements. Which is sad, because then a village would be denied an idiot to throw rocks at.

Or they wouldn't have noticed the Moebius until too late

It would probably be obvious, hard to miss a baby that looks like the botchling from The Witcher 3.

 

[The Dude]

Russ is one of those low-intellect individuals who think that right and wrong is exactly the same thing as legal and illegal. If it’s wrong to do X, it would be illegal to do X. If it’s not illegal, it’s not morally wrong. This is why he states that forcing a woman to have sex with him by law because of his disability would not be rape, because it would be legal, and therefore not be rape. In Russ’ mind, rape is not the sexual forcing of yourself onto a person against their wishes…it’s just a legal term, so if said forced act is legalized, it is no longer rape. He does not see rape itself as a terrible act. He sees it as a legal term that means you’re in trouble for doing it if someone catches you. So if it’s legal to do so, it’s no longer a bad thing, because only bad things have legal consequences.

Kohlberg’s hierarchy of morality states that the very lowest, and most childlike, of moral codes is to do the right thing purely in order to avoid punishment by authority figures. Basically, “don’t hit the other children while playing, or you’ll get a spanking.” This moral code always follows the letter of the law. Right and wrong are defined entirely by what is legal or illegal.

At the very top of the hierarchy is the most evolved sense of moral code, the sense of doing the right thing in life because there is a universal duty as a human being to adhere to higher, self-selected morals. It sometimes goes against the letter of the law, because sometimes the greater good transcends laws. “I broke into that store to steal medicine to save a child’s life, even though the owner refused to sell it to me, because it was the right thing to do and I couldn’t live with myself if I let the child die.” (Note that this is breaking the law on behalf of another, with no personal gain involved, and being prepared to accept the legal consequences for doing so, in the name of upholding your morals. Breaking into the store to steal the medicine for yourself would fall into a lower tier.)

Russ is firmly stuck in the bottom tier, the child stage, of only doing the right thing as it is dictated to him by parents and the law, in order to avoid punishment from authority figures. This also allows him to ignore any sense of morality, because if he thinks he won’t get caught, then it isn’t wrong, or if he pleads his case to authority figures and they change their mind and allow it, then it isn’t wrong. Deciding what is moral or immoral is left to authority figures themselves.

Forcing Taylor Swift to hand over her fortune and become his sex maid isn’t wrong to Russ, if a judge says she has to do it. If it has a legal blessing, then it is morally right and acceptable. This is why Russ can’t understand how dying children get celebrity visits and he doesn’t. They BOTH asked, and he worked harder (he thinks) for the privilege, so he should also get a visit. Nuance, compassion, selflessness and sacrifice do not factor into this level of morality.

It’s also not illegal to call TayTay’s dying mum a gross pig with cancer, so why is everyone angry about it?? It’s not illegal to harass her family with gifts, so why is the family upset about it? Things are only bad to do if there is a clear punishment stated for them by authorities…and even then, if Russ can get the authorities to change their minds, then whatever he did will automatically be morally correct.

Kohlberg also puts tier one and two, the “avoiding punishment” and “self-interest/what’s in it for me?” tiers, in the preconventional, or pre-moral stage, the bottom of three. Children inhabit this stage and are supposed to grow out of it very quickly. Russ has not.

Russ has never once shown that he has developed beyond the pre-moral stages. He does things because he wants to, and when caught, he lies or makes up excuses to avoid punishment, or appeals to authority to change the rules or make an exception so that what he was doing wrong will now be legally considered “right” and he will avoid punishment or bad consequences.

Russ has the morals of a two-year old child, and always will.

I've always said that Russ was just "born bad" and he's just naturally defective, with nothing short of extreme negative training (pain) that could have improved his behavior. What you've outlined is strong evidence that Russ was just born broken and will likely never improve.

 

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the permanently open drool mouth is hard to miss, and it's present from birth.

Yeah but babies drool a lot on their own and if you're the average medieval farmer/farmwife you've got enough shit to do that you don't have time to monitor infant facial expressions.

Anyways, what @GargoyleGorl said gave me a thought about how often Russ seems specifically jealous of kids, including and especially sick kids. You have him getting jealous of the bombing victims, getting jealous of the girls with their STUPID PAPER CRANES FOR TAYLOR'S FAT, PIG FACED MOM THAT AREN'T AS GOOD AN EFFORT AS A SONG, then his long rant in response to the girl who had all of those horrible burns all over her body.

I've seen him devote way more time an energy to kids who get pop star attention than any of the actual boyfriends of these pop stars. At most he got angry about Joe Alwyn, and even then he mostly ranted about Swift being shallow. But he brought up the paper crane thing constantly and the story about the burn girl getting a visit from Swift prompted a long ass rant about "the Hell he has been through." Kids seem to really be a berserk button for him.

I am trying to figure out why. But I can tell you that if Russ HAD somehow managed to get himself a young wife and family, he'd definitely be the type of shithead to be jealous of his own kids.