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The OMicron variant is being used as a reason to bring the time table forward on booster shots for all adults over 18 in the UK. If radio news lady was correct, the vote on that is today.

I asked ages ago and I'll ask again; What fucking ingredients go in to these jabs? Because if the UK needs to shit out 30 million boosters ASAP, where are those materials coming from? Plastic for the syringes, glass for the vials and metal for the needles, fine, but what of the stuff that goes in to the jab? It isn't made of nothing.

Somewhere down the line, a raw material company is laughing their tits off.

Edit: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-59455914

Under 40's, not over 18s. Also handing these boosters out with the flu jab. According to a neighbour, you need a covid booster before you can get a flu jab, but take that with a pinch of salt.
 
so the vacc passport is finally coming to Sweden this Wednesday. you wont be allowed inside restaurants, bar, clubs and gatherings of over a hundred people unless you have the passport. not sure if the owner's of the establishment's will enforce the rule but i can imagen most of them will cuck out of fear of getting a fiend. saw a morning news report of it and the doctor went full mask off, telling people to get the vacc or you deserve to be treated like second class citizens.


good thing im a hermit at this point and almost never leave the house. would have been a total nightmare if it happen 10 years ago at my height of nightclub days. i feel so sorry for the early adults that have just turned old enough to drink. either get the vacc or wait until you turn 20 so you can buy booze legally at the liquor store.
 
Their are size of Texas, if the AK is so easy to buy they should have few school shootings in past decade, right? And You can surely show us some massacres in Poland with using that cheap AK?
What is this?

Why is his grammar Chinky?

Why would Poland have many mass shootings, it's almost entirely white and very functional as a society. The only downside is that they speak Polish and are poor.
 
The OMicron variant is being used as a reason to bring the time table forward on booster shots for all adults over 18 in the UK. If radio news lady was correct, the vote on that is today.

I asked ages ago and I'll ask again; What fucking ingredients go in to these jabs? Because if the UK needs to shit out 30 million boosters ASAP, where are those materials coming from? Plastic for the syringes, glass for the vials and metal for the needles, fine, but what of the stuff that goes in to the jab? It isn't made of nothing.

Somewhere down the line, a raw material company is laughing their tits off.

Edit: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-59455914

Under 40's, not over 18s. Also handing these boosters out with the flu jab. According to a neighbour, you need a covid booster before you can get a flu jab, but take that with a pinch of salt.
To be fair, 30,000,000 vials of 2ml is 500 per liter, 500,000 per tonne.

I think you can find 60 tonnes of practically anything you want.

I'm more surprised that it apparently costs £15 per ml - this naked fact alone makes me think there's no chance they're being honest, that's far too much money to be honest about.



Most of that weight is saline solution - I'm pretty sure getting 60 tonnes of saline solution isn't hard
 
A small news roundup, along with not one but two clinical trial databases, covering Pfizer, J&J, AZ, and a lot more.

The New York Times is breaking rank a little with the rest of the journoroaches and scuttling off on its own a bit. In an article they just posted a few hours ago, they grudgingly admit value in natural immunity, although they quickly follow it up with the usual shilling. (Archive) I wonder how many angry phone calls they've already gotten from Pfizer and Moderna about that.

People who recover from Covid and then receive even one dose of a vaccine tend to produce a broader range of antibodies, capable of recognizing more versions of the virus, than do people who are only vaccinated.

It’s clear that hybrid immunity, the kind that people get when they are both infected and vaccinated, is superior, and that is very, very likely to take care of this thing, too,” Dr. Nussenzweig said.

“After two doses of vaccine, we did not see that. But we’re hoping that after three doses, maybe there’ll be some catching up,” he said.

Related, both Pfizer and AstraZeneca are running clinical trials on variant vaccines for Alpha and Delta. (Archive) Link to official NIH website for the AstraZeneca trials HERE (AZD2816 is the one for the variant vax.)

“Pfizer and BioNTech … have begun clinical trials with variant-specific vaccines (Alpha and Delta) to collect safety and tolerability data that can be provided to regulators as part of the blueprint studies in the event of an needed variant-specific vaccine,” the companies said in a statement.

Also, here's a link to Vivli, a clearinghouse for sharing clinical trial data, especially for Covid. AZ, Pfizer, and J&J are all members. It's an official source -- AstraZeneca has opted to sunset their own portal in favor of posting their data and receiving requests for trial results through here.

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And in another treat for the medically-inclined here, Pfizer has started posting results from some of their clinical trials on ClinicalTrials.gov. Here's a lazy link to a search query that will turn up all SARS-COV-2 that are from Pfizer and have a status of "Completed". So far, only THIS ONE has results posted (website only, no downloadable format or else I'dve attached it here, sorry -- here's an ARCHIVE of the results page, best I can do atm), but there should be more trials getting their results up soon. Fiddle with the filters to look for ones in different status, like recruiting, in progress, etc.

Medical statistics isn't my field of nerdery, so I will leave interpreting the results up to those who are better suited to that task. ( @borsabil , perhaps you could be so kind as to take a peek?)
 
These people are at the end of their rope. Their lies are hitting a fucking crescendo.

I don't think this ends well. I think the message is falling apart. They tried, and are failing miserably. America. There is going to be a reckoning, and it is called common sense.

Covid is just another cold, and it kills fat, and extra fat old people. Any person can fix that, stop feeding yourself.

They can't do this again. Anyone who accepts it as normal is retarded. Welcome to the retarded Fat Army.

Nope. My grandfather didn't win World War II, and then go do it again against the Koreans and win again. Fuck you, establishment fucks.

Literally, try it.
 
Don't know if this gem was posted before. 2019, Fauci and a panel of other globo fucks talking about pushing a universal mRNA flu vaccine through, and how those pesky approval processes take such a long time, so we should just get rid of them altogether. They're the experts, after all. These cunts are literally talking about what they would go on to do, they just changed from flu to covid, conveniently.


@Drain Todger @borsabil
I'm somewhat unsure what to make of this, would you be interested in taking a look?
Interestingly, Baric himself, one of the people involved in creating covid in the first place, is mentioned as one of the sources for some info.
There are some comments/replies with interesting information from someone claiming they're the one who wrote the article.

"Some researchers argue that although ADE has received the most attention to date, it is less likely than the other immune enhancement pathways to cause a dysregulated response to COVID-19, given what is known about the epidemiology of the virus and its behavior in the human body. “There is the potential for ADE, but the bigger problem is probably Th2 immunopathology,” says Ralph Baric, an epidemiologist and expert in coronaviruses—named for the crown-shaped spike they use to enter human cells—at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill. In previous studies of SARS, aged mice were found to have particularly high risks of life-threatening Th2 immunopathology (2). Baric expresses his concern about what that might mean for use of a COVID-19 vaccine in elderly people. “Of course, the elderly are our most vulnerable population,” he adds."

Connected sources:
https://rumble.com/vkx83u-dr.-cole-...oisonous-attack-on-our-population-and-it.html - A Dr. Cole was mentioned in the article, it appears to be this man, owner of a private medical diagnostics company.
"Everybody over 30 will have lost 100% of their entire immune capability (certainly for Covid and most likely for viruses and certain cancers – following the evidence from Cole Diagnostics in Idaho and Dr Nathan Thompson and Dr Ralph Baric) within 13 weeks. "

I don't recall any of this getting posted here.
Fun fact, in Glenn Beck's expose they talk about how the contract (between moderna and the government) says the government co-owns the vaccine with the company; the same one they're pushing, yes. Is this also the case with the Pfizer vaccine? Can someone explain to me how the government even holds rights to a vaccine, and since they somehow do, why don't we get part of the profits?

Found this link as well. I'm sure this will result in no further interference in our lives.
 
Is the beginning of an lifelong autoimmune disorder causing your white blood cells to inflame your blood vessels and if untreated damage your organs a cause for concern?

No, I can't think of why it would be.
I like the incel to doomer pipeline. I distinctly remember a bunch of you coming to the farms, getting BTFO'd in incel topics and then you're all camouflaging yourself in dispensing sarcastic one-liners.
 
A small news roundup, along with not one but two clinical trial databases, covering Pfizer, J&J, AZ, and a lot more.

The New York Times is breaking rank a little with the rest of the journoroaches and scuttling off on its own a bit. In an article they just posted a few hours ago, they grudgingly admit value in natural immunity, although they quickly follow it up with the usual shilling. (Archive) I wonder how many angry phone calls they've already gotten from Pfizer and Moderna about that.



Related, both Pfizer and AstraZeneca are running clinical trials on variant vaccines for Alpha and Delta. (Archive) Link to official NIH website for the AstraZeneca trials HERE (AZD2816 is the one for the variant vax.)



Also, here's a link to Vivli, a clearinghouse for sharing clinical trial data, especially for Covid. AZ, Pfizer, and J&J are all members. It's an official source -- AstraZeneca has opted to sunset their own portal in favor of posting their data and receiving requests for trial results through here.

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And in another treat for the medically-inclined here, Pfizer has started posting results from some of their clinical trials on ClinicalTrials.gov. Here's a lazy link to a search query that will turn up all SARS-COV-2 that are from Pfizer and have a status of "Completed". So far, only THIS ONE has results posted (website only, no downloadable format or else I'dve attached it here, sorry -- here's an ARCHIVE of the results page, best I can do atm), but there should be more trials getting their results up soon. Fiddle with the filters to look for ones in different status, like recruiting, in progress, etc.

Medical statistics isn't my field of nerdery, so I will leave interpreting the results up to those who are better suited to that task. ( @borsabil , perhaps you could be so kind as to take a peek?)
The study period is the biggest issue. December 2020 to April 2021 the mass vaccination roll out hadn't really started and we already know that whatever protection the vaccines do offer is clustered around the first couple of months after the second jab.

Anyway what it does give us is a decent picture of what Covid looked like during the second wave in the winter of 2020-21.

Overall mortality for the non jabbed who required hospitalisation is 3.5% about half of the vaccinated. However this is to be expected given the mean age of the unvaxxed group is 18 years lower.

African Americans make up almost 40% of all hospital cases. It's Michigan sure but still that's an amazing stat.

Otherwise the study really doesn't have a large enough vaxxed cohort to make the numbers useable to assess vaccine efficacy. They seemed to avoid ventilating their Covid patients and obviously had a non invasive Bi-Pap treatment protocol. which has led to a markedly lower mortality rate, but we knew this was a thing already. If we assume a 5-8% all case hospitalisation rate a 3.5% mortality rate in the hospitalised means an overall CFR of around 0.2-0.3% in the non jabbed. TLDR Covid, even at the height of the 2nd wave with the Alpha variant, was a total nothing burger. 0.2% CFR is slightly higher than seasonal flu FFS.

Exclusion Criteria:

  • Patients who have previously tested positive for COVID-19 prior to the study period will be excluded.

LOL
 
Don't know if this gem was posted before. 2019, Fauci and a panel of other globo fucks talking about pushing a universal mRNA flu vaccine through, and how those pesky approval processes take such a long time, so we should just get rid of them altogether. They're the experts, after all. These cunts are literally talking about what they would go on to do, they just changed from flu to covid, conveniently.


@Drain Todger @borsabil
I'm somewhat unsure what to make of this, would you be interested in taking a look?
Interestingly, Baric himself, one of the people involved in creating covid in the first place, is mentioned as one of the sources for some info.
There are some comments/replies with interesting information from someone claiming they're the one who wrote the article.

"Some researchers argue that although ADE has received the most attention to date, it is less likely than the other immune enhancement pathways to cause a dysregulated response to COVID-19, given what is known about the epidemiology of the virus and its behavior in the human body. “There is the potential for ADE, but the bigger problem is probably Th2 immunopathology,” says Ralph Baric, an epidemiologist and expert in coronaviruses—named for the crown-shaped spike they use to enter human cells—at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill. In previous studies of SARS, aged mice were found to have particularly high risks of life-threatening Th2 immunopathology (2). Baric expresses his concern about what that might mean for use of a COVID-19 vaccine in elderly people. “Of course, the elderly are our most vulnerable population,” he adds."

Connected sources:
https://rumble.com/vkx83u-dr.-cole-...oisonous-attack-on-our-population-and-it.html - A Dr. Cole was mentioned in the article, it appears to be this man, owner of a private medical diagnostics company.
"Everybody over 30 will have lost 100% of their entire immune capability (certainly for Covid and most likely for viruses and certain cancers – following the evidence from Cole Diagnostics in Idaho and Dr Nathan Thompson and Dr Ralph Baric) within 13 weeks. "

I don't recall any of this getting posted here.
Fun fact, in Glenn Beck's expose they talk about how the contract (between moderna and the government) says the government co-owns the vaccine with the company; the same one they're pushing, yes. Is this also the case with the Pfizer vaccine? Can someone explain to me how the government even holds rights to a vaccine, and since they somehow do, why don't we get part of the profits?

Found this link as well. I'm sure this will result in no further interference in our lives.
The files on SARS-related ADE and vaccine-induced Th2 immunopathology were some of the earliest ones I happened upon.


The severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus (SARS-CoV) still carries the potential for reemergence, therefore efforts are being made to create a vaccine as a prophylactic strategy for control and prevention. Antibody-dependent enhancement (ADE) is a mechanism through which dengue viruses, feline coronaviruses, and HIV viruses take advantage of anti-viral humoral immune responses to infect host target cells. Here we describe our observations of SARS-CoV using ADE to enhance the infectivity of a HL-CZ human promonocyte cell line. Quantitative-PCR and immunofluorescence staining results indicate that SARS-CoV is capable of replication in HL-CZ cells, and of displaying virus-induced cytopathic effects and increased levels of TNF-α, IL-4 and IL-6 two days post-infection. According to flow cytometry data, the HL-CZ cells also expressed angiotensin converting enzyme 2 (ACE2, a SARS-CoV receptor) and higher levels of the FcγRII receptor. We found that higher concentrations of anti-sera against SARS-CoV neutralized SARS-CoV infection, while highly diluted anti-sera significantly increased SARS-CoV infection and induced higher levels of apoptosis. Results from infectivity assays indicate that SARS-CoV ADE is primarily mediated by diluted antibodies against envelope spike proteins rather than nucleocapsid proteins. We also generated monoclonal antibodies against SARS-CoV spike proteins and observed that most of them promoted SARS-CoV infection. Combined, our results suggest that antibodies against SARS-CoV spike proteins may trigger ADE effects. The data raise new questions regarding a potential SARS-CoV vaccine, while shedding light on mechanisms involved in SARS pathogenesis.


All vaccines induced serum neutralizing antibody with increasing dosages and/or alum significantly increasing responses. Significant reductions of SARS-CoV two days after challenge was seen for all vaccines and prior live SARS-CoV. All mice exhibited histopathologic changes in lungs two days after challenge including all animals vaccinated (Balb/C and C57BL/6) or given live virus, influenza vaccine, or PBS suggesting infection occurred in all. Histopathology seen in animals given one of the SARS-CoV vaccines was uniformly a Th2-type immunopathology with prominent eosinophil infiltration, confirmed with special eosinophil stains. The pathologic changes seen in all control groups lacked the eosinophil prominence.

The really concerning ones I've seen lately are these:


Our group has been using the PLUS Cardiac Test (GD Biosciences, Inc, Irvine, CA) a clinically validated measurement of multiple protein biomarkers which generates a score predicting the 5 yr risk (percentage chance) of a new Acute Coronary Syndrome (ACS). The score is based on changes from the norm of multiple protein biomarkers including IL-16, a proinflammatory cytokine, soluble Fas, an inducer of apoptosis, and Hepatocyte Growth Factor (HGF)which serves as a marker for chemotaxis of T-cells into epithelium and cardiac tissue, among other markers. Elevation above the norm increases the PULS score, while decreases below the norm lowers the PULS score.The score has been measured every 3-6 months in our patient population for 8 years. Recently, with the advent of the mRNA COVID 19 vaccines (vac) by Moderna and Pfizer, dramatic changes in the PULS score became apparent in most patients.This report summarizes those results. A total of 566 pts, aged 28 to 97, M:F ratio 1:1 seen in a preventive cardiology practice had a new PULS test drawn from 2 to 10 weeks following the 2nd COVID shot and was compared to the previous PULS score drawn 3 to 5 months previously pre- shot. Baseline IL-16 increased from 35=/-20 above the norm to 82 =/- 75 above the norm post-vac; sFas increased from 22+/- 15 above the norm to 46=/-24 above the norm post-vac; HGF increased from 42+/-12 above the norm to 86+/-31 above the norm post-vac. These changes resulted in an increase of the PULS score from 11% 5 yr ACS risk to 25% 5 yr ACS risk. At the time of this report, these changes persist for at least 2.5 months post second dose of vac.We conclude that the mRNA vacs dramatically increase inflammation on the endothelium and T cell infiltration of cardiac muscle and may account for the observations of increased thrombosis, cardiomyopathy, and other vascular events following vaccination.

Oof, massive endothelial inflammation. We need to see more data on this, though.


Severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS–CoV–2) has led to the coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID–19) pandemic, severely affecting public health and the global economy. Adaptive immunity plays a crucial role in fighting against SARS–CoV–2 infection and directly influences the clinical outcomes of patients. Clinical studies have indicated that patients with severe COVID–19 exhibit delayed and weak adaptive immune responses; however, the mechanism by which SARS–CoV–2 impedes adaptive immunity remains unclear. Here, by using an in vitro cell line, we report that the SARS–CoV–2 spike protein significantly inhibits DNA damage repair, which is required for effective V(D)J recombination in adaptive immunity. Mechanistically, we found that the spike protein localizes in the nucleus and inhibits DNA damage repair by impeding key DNA repair protein BRCA1 and 53BP1 recruitment to the damage site. Our findings reveal a potential molecular mechanism by which the spike protein might impede adaptive immunity and underscore the potential side effects of full-length spike-based vaccines.

V(D)J recombination is essential to how immune cells work. Without it, you end up with something called SCID (which is normally a result of a congenital defect in the genes governing this activity).



Can SARS-CoV-2 Spike produced by the vaccine induce T and B lymphopenia and make people susceptible to infections by any pathogen? If so, it's literally the opposite of a vaccine.
 
There will never be a One World Government. The Muslim countries will never agree to it unless they fallow Sharia law to the T. Russia probably won't budge unless Othrodox Christianity is in control. America, Canada, and Europe might join in. The SA countries won't, along with African ones. The only way it comes about is by force. Otherwise, we're too culturally different from one another.
No need to have One world government, three will do the trick. You can name them, for example, Oceania, Eurasia and Eastasia.
 
I like the incel to doomer pipeline. I distinctly remember a bunch of you coming to the farms, getting BTFO'd in incel topics and then you're all camouflaging yourself in dispensing sarcastic one-liners.
You have buyer's remorse from taking an experimental gene therapy to protect yourself against a moderately bad flu, which seems to have evolved into the common cold. OK we get it. But seriously we're the doomers? This thread has listed in detail the raw data that shows Covid-19 is nothing to worry about if you're relatively fit and under 60 years old. Why the fuck would I waste my time worrying about a virus that I have a 0.02% chance of dying from, vaccine or no vaccine?

Some people loved the doomer porn pumped out 24/7 by the media. It gave them some kind of purpose in life I guess. It's just like WW2 except with Uber Eats and Netflix. Some people believed the promise that things would go back to normal as long as they agreed to go into lock down for a couple of weeks/ a month/ a year or to wear that mask or take the jab and get boosted. Some people just wanted to keep their jobs. It's fine with me, I don't care what people choose to do with their own bodies just leave me and mine the fuck alone and we're good.
 
"Not as dumbed down." Perhaps. However the fact people have been buying into this shit for almost 2 full years now shows that they are already fairly dumbed down.
We have to take into account that some of the Fraudci believers are fake. "Manufactured consent" if you like, created to elicit a specific response from those who see through the BS.

I know some actual believers irl who already vaxxed their children, but they are usually not very vocal on social media.
 
You have buyer's remorse from taking an experimental gene therapy to protect yourself against a moderately bad flu, which seems to have evolved into the common cold. OK we get it. But seriously we're the doomers? This thread has listed in detail the raw data that shows Covid-19 is nothing to worry about if you're relatively fit and under 60 years old. Why the fuck would I waste my time worrying about a virus that I have a 0.02% chance of dying from, vaccine or no vaccine?

Some people loved the doomer porn pumped out 24/7 by the media. It gave them some kind of purpose in life I guess. It's just like WW2 except with Uber Eats and Netflix. Some people believed the promise that things would go back to normal as long as they agreed to go into lock down for a couple of weeks/ a month/ a year or to wear that mask or take the jab and get boosted. Some people just wanted to keep their jobs. It's fine with me, I don't care what people choose to do with their own bodies just leave me and mine the fuck alone and we're good.
Hey man, we've been over this. I told you that you have your own reasons to not take the jab and with me personally - that's fine. Even if it was an actual super ebil plague as some people have touted it to be, there will be always someone who is distrustful for one reason or another.

What I'm having problems with is that you and the people like you start to morph into a mirror image of a Branch Covidian. Buyer's remorse? Not enough spine?

How the fuck do you know the thought process of someone who made a vaccine choice? Can you extrapolate that reasoning to everyone who did?

Some were brainwashed into fear and acceptance - do you honestly think that had your circumstances been different, you wouldn't have given in?

You have an individualistic consoomer mentality. It just so happens that your attitude runs contrary to majority held opinion at the same time.

Shut your fucking gob and get on with your fucking life. You have one outside Farms, right? You seem to have a family.
 
Hey man, we've been over this. I told you that you have your own reasons to not take the jab and with me personally - that's fine. Even if it was an actual super ebil plague as some people have touted it to be, there will be always someone who is distrustful for one reason or another.

What I'm having problems with is that you and the people like you start to morph into a mirror image of a Branch Covidian. Buyer's remorse? Not enough spine?

How the fuck do you know the thought process of someone who made a vaccine choice? Can you extrapolate that reasoning to everyone who did?

Some were brainwashed into fear and acceptance - do you honestly think that had your circumstances been different, you wouldn't have given in?

You have an individualistic consoomer mentality. It just so happens that your attitude runs contrary to majority held opinion at the same time.

Shut your fucking gob and get on with your fucking life. You have one outside Farms, right? You seem to have a family.
and your argument is...?
 
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