Wuhan Coronavirus: Megathread - Got too big

[George Lucas]

Works for me.

Still, wear a fucking mask out in public. It costs you nothing.

No fuck you.

 

[m1ddl3m4rch]

Works for me.

Still, wear a fucking mask out in public. It costs you nothing.

Compliance with tyranny costs us everything, sheep.

 

[Fliddaroonie]

Works for me.

Still, wear a fucking mask out in public. It costs you nothing and lowers the chances that you spread the coof.

No. Fuck you. My parents raised me to sneeze into a Kleenex.

 

[Abdul Alhazred]

Works for me.

Still, wear a fucking mask out in public. It costs you nothing and lowers the chances that you spread the coof.

How about you lock yourself in your home for your safety. 0% chance of contracting the coof if you don't leave

 

[Czechem Republic]

tyranny

How about you lock yourself in your home for your safety. 0% chance of contracting the coof if you don't leave

I'm not worried about my health from getting it. I'm worried about getting it, then spreading it to someone who might not be so lucky (especially old people) during the first few days post infection when I have few or no symptoms.

I mean I shouldn't be surprised at this opinion, but jesus. At this point I'm content to advocate for mask mandates just because they make you lot seethe, the demonstrated reduction in spread from scientific studies notwithstanding.

hoes mad lmao

 

[Buffle Dag]

Some pages ago I read questions about whether or not SARS-CoV-2 / COVID-19 (the 'virus') has major effects after two months. I rephrased the question to "does the virus do anything at all?" and did some world-first, unprecedented Science™. Hop along for the ride.

I took today's data from The Netherlands regarding (Positive Test) Cases, (Hospital) Admissions and Deaths. You can download these as CSV files starting on 2020-02-27. The RIVM is the Dutch CDC (as far as I know) and their data should be purely factual.

I calculated the 'temporal coherence' (ɣ) between Cases, Admissions and Deaths. Basically a shifted sum-product between series of data (or one series with itself) telling you which phase-shift makes both signals correlate most strongly.

See the attached graphs for a visual representation. I found that:

• Cases peak-correlate to Admissions after 6 days, with 3% amplitude
• Cases peak-correlate to Deaths after 11–13 days, with 0,6% amplitude
• Admissions peak-correlate to Deaths after 7 days, with 20% amplitude

Even though I'm as skeptical as they come, there is a definite funnel from cases to hospital admissions to deaths in the source data. It also shows an overall 0,6% CFR. And an 80% survival rate if you are admitted to the hospital.

There's no strong evidence the virus has major effects two months after testing positively. If you don't die after fourteen days, you're good. Side notes:

• I used 2020-07-01 as the starting date for the analysis since public testing capacity was severely limited before that
• I had to limit my analysis to end on 2021-09-28 to allow for two months of leeway in calculations
• In Cases graphs numbers 'wave' per week, probably due to the testing protocol bunching days together

 

[Super-Chevy454]

I guess no more travel for unvaccinated Canadians, ever. You now need the jab to renew your passport.


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Will the refugees going to Canada get an exemption I presume?

 

[Fanatical Pragmatist]

You're not coughing up pure virus, you're coughing up water/mucus droplets (with virus attached) which are significantly (tens to hundreds of times) larger than 100nm. This isn't that hard to understand holy shit.

Old data. SARS-CoV-2 a.k.a. "COVID" is airborne on much smaller, free-floating particles.

How many of those viruses wind up with neurological involvement, or causing life-threatening pneumonia? This virus is engineered. So no, it is not just another coronavirus.

SARS-1 & MERS do that at much more frequently and across a much less discriminatory age pattern (but fortunately don't spread as well). The 2018 Malaysian Coronavirus causes pneumonia in almost all recorded cases, but thank God human-to-human spread is virtually nil.

HCoV-OC43 and HCoV-HKU-1 (both genus: Betacoronavirus like SARS & COVID) cause those symptoms, just in a much smaller % infected than COVID. In fact OC43 is actually now believed to be the real culprit behind the 1889-1890 "Russian Flu" pandemic.
Alphacoronaviruses HCoV-NL63 and HCoV-229E are also associated with pneumonia, respiratory distress, and "Kawaski-like" disease.

Furthermore, the "neurological" side effects of COVID are largely overrated, no thanks to "muh long covid" munchies & MSM fear-mongerers.

Yes, they knew how a RNA Virus can spread

Okay TBF "RNA Virus" is a massive multi-phyla group that covers everything from bacteriophages to polio to foodborne viral illnesses.

 

[Drain Todger]

Wow.

Early insight into antibody-dependent enhancement after SARS-CoV-2 mRNA vaccination

Current vaccines, which induce a B-cell-mediated antibody response against the spike protein of SARS-CoV-2, have markedly reduced infection rates. However, the emergence of new variants as a result of SARS-CoV-2 evolution requires the development of novel ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Analysis of data from the National Health Service (NHS) published by Public Health England9 has shown that the infection rate with the Delta variant post-vaccination (<21 days post-dose 1, ≥21 days post-dose 1, and after two doses) was drastically lower compared to unvaccinated cases (Figure 1a). However, the death rate as a result of infection with the Delta variant was 8-folds higher in cases that had received two doses of the vaccine when compared to unvaccinated cases (Figure 1b).9 These data support the notion that pre-existing anti-S-IgG induced by the vaccine may be sub-neutralizing in a subset of individuals (hence becoming infected in spite of being vaccinated) and thus may accelerate infectivity via ADE and lead to higher death rates. Taken together with models presented by Ricke,12 these data further emphasize the importance of developing novel vaccines that are T-cell-based and not dependent only upon antibodies.

 

[Derka Derka]

Side note -- why the fuck was their current vaccine candidate testing on hold for 14 months? That's not a detail I've seen before.

Other vaccine makers saw saturation in the market, and withheld further efforts until they saw they could carve out some profits.

How are you going to compete against giants like Pfizer/J&J and government backed Moderna head-on, with their 90%+ efficacy and unprecedented safety claims

The ones that will be going through trials next year will label themselves as "second generation" products.
No doubt, they will also add "works against Omicron!" stickers on the boxes.

 

[The Wicked Mitch]

So guys, about this Omicron variant

Oncomir - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Squid Diddler]

At this point I'm content to advocate for mask mandates just because they make you lot seethe, the demonstrated reduction in spread from scientific studies notwithstanding.

Funny, that's the exact reason I like not wearing a mask- because it makes little bitches like you cry.

 

[Hippopatumus]

I'm not worried about my health from getting it. I'm worried about getting it, then spreading it to someone who might not be so lucky (especially old people) during the first few days post infection when I have few or no symptoms.

I mean I shouldn't be surprised at this opinion, but jesus. At this point I'm content to advocate for mask mandates just because they make you lot seethe, the demonstrated reduction in spread from scientific studies notwithstanding.

Lmaoooooooooooooo

Someone got laughed at by a Stacey in their face diaper at the Panda Express earlier today and is now SEETHING.

 

[NoReturn]

Assuming the scamdemic keeps going with "new cases" and "new variants" indefinitely, will there ever come a point where every place eventually gets sick of the "New Normal"? Or will the world remain divided between places where the "New Normal" is ongoing and places where it ended until the end of the world?

I mean, we still have the TSA, so I'm not exactly holding out hope.

I swear to God the Hadron collider theory is real. What the fuck is happening right now? Do the majority not understand that this makes no sense? That it's the definition of insane?

Run 3 starts in March next year, so let's find out!

I hope the next reality we find ourselves in has cryptids or something cool like that.

The idea that wearing a dirty cloth face rag all day will do anything to stop a virus is so fucking dumb I can't believe someone would actually defend the practice in a non ironical way.

People also act like everything else besides rona has disappeared. All other viruses, bacteria, and fungi, just gone. Poof! Magic!

I have become angry and am conforming less and less to pretty much every group, particularly the media and government.

 

[ToroidalBoat]

What the fuck is happening right now?

I mean, we still have the TSA, so I'm not exactly holding out hope.

The Berenstain Timeline really does suck.

 

[General Disarray]

Ah, so we got the vaxx email today.

Using a third-party HIPAA compliant company to collect your yea or nay.

If work from home, not required. Good. They're also accelerating WFH as they indicated in the announcement to contact HR if you want to transition to WFH.

I have a feeling I'll be keeping this job until I retire if I can stay the fuck at home and never step foot into a bus again.

Vastly overqualified? Sure. Could make thousands a year more if I applied myself and dolled up and took the bus downtown again. Fuck that, in the Wisconsin winters I am just too damn old for that shit.

My job is so easy it's like I get paid to exist. I don't have any contact at all with actual people. Sure it can get hectic, but what job doesn't? Plus there's just the job, no being up at night worrying if that report I submitted had a stupid typo or if the production schedule got into the veep's inbox or not, and all that kind of hoo-ha. No office politics, no makeup, no high heels, no bus, no fucking worries!

Plus I just won $75 at my usual online casino which puts me up for the year at um *tap tap tap bing* ... $75 smackeroos!

It's gonna be a good day, tater.

 

[Terrifik]

https://twitter.com/TrumpJew2/status/1465760204461588483

 

[Vince McMahon]

What we have learned from history is that we haven't learned anything from history.

Our newest and latest hope that now that we sit on top of the most interconnected information networks in human existence, we theoretically can remind ourselves about the lessons of history and never be doomed to repeat them.


The problem is, however, is that while information networks have been becoming better, we still possess the same brain and it appears that it's incapable of handling this much noise.

...so what have we learned from history?

 

[Puff]

What we have learned from history is that we haven't learned anything from history.

Our newest and latest hope that now that we sit on top of the most interconnected information networks in human existence, we theoretically can remind ourselves about the lessons of history and never be doomed to repeat them.


The problem is, however, is that while information networks have been becoming better, we still possess the same brain and it appears that it's incapable of handling this much noise.

...so what have we learned from history?

People are shit and tyranny is inevitable.

 

[Escaped Abortion]

I'm worried about getting it, then spreading it to someone who might not be so lucky (especially old people) during the first few days post infection when I have few or no symptoms.

Why? You know I lost an elderly relative to the common cold back in the 2010s, before everyone went insane. It never dawned on me that I had some right or expectation to be angry at the person who exposed her to the cold. Back then, we just accepted when you are geriatric you are likely to die from some kind of disease that knocks your body out of stasis. All the vaccines in the world for flu and other things only give you a slightly better chance of making it another winter. Old people dying isn't sad, they lived the meaningful part of their lives. It's not like things were ever going to get better for them and we are all going to die from something.

Dying of a virus when you are old is pretty goddamn mundane, and I would rather live my last few months or years to their fullest than in a world where I am not allowed to hug my family. Olds can make the choice if they want to sequester themselves away for extra safety, or make the most of their limited time left.

Of course the elderly we have now would probably sacrifice entire grade school classes to Satan if he could extend their life another few years... My elders were at least not that monstrous. They may not have lived to be over 80, but they lived life on their own terms, at least.