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Forbes changed the title to: Covid Vaccines Don’t Alter Your DNA – They Help Choose Cells To Strengthen Your Immune Response
Eesh, what a patronizing article.
He's very careful to stick to clarifying only the DNA alteration misunderstanding. Why not take the chance to dispel the myth that the vaccinations will cause mild to severe auto-immune disorders in the long run? *tinfoil crinkles*

Also, it's "a bacterium", not "a bacteria". And if a single bacterium enters a human body I doubt it's able to elicit any kind of response. I guess I exposed this fraud of a "scientific journalist" :smug: checkmate pro-vaxxers.
 
Eesh, what a patronizing article.
He's very careful to stick to clarifying only the DNA alteration misunderstanding. Why not take the chance to dispel the myth that the vaccinations will cause mild to severe auto-immune disorders in the long run? *tinfoil crinkles*

Also, it's "a bacterium", not "a bacteria". And if a single bacterium enters a human body I doubt it's able to elicit any kind of response. I guess I exposed this fraud of a "scientific journalist" :smug: checkmate pro-vaxxers.
Do they not realize "and here's why that's a good thing" articles are not, in fact, a good thing?
 
The latest from the county I live in. Hope the terminated employees win their suit.


November 30, 2021, 3:02 p.m.

TERMNINATED CHOMP EMPLOYEES FILE SUIT OVER VACCINE MANDATE

More than 30 former Community Hospital of the Monterey Peninsula employees who declined to take the Covid-19 vaccine have filed a lawsuit against the hospital, alleging they were discriminated against because of their religious beliefs.

In a civil complaint filed Monday in Monterey County Superior Court, 35 former CHOMP workers allege that the hospital unfairly and unlawfully denied them exemptions based on their religious beliefs or medical conditions.

While the state’s Fair Employment and Housing Act offers broad workplace protections for “people of sincere religious faith,” the ex-hospital employees allege CHOMP did not do that. Instead, they contend CHOMP was cavalier in its handling of the employees religious and medical exemption requests.

"CHOMP’s malicious and reckless actions are causing intense undue stress for its former employees, who were forced to choose between keeping their jobs, which they love, and honoring their most deeply held religious beliefs about life, purpose and death,” according to the lawsuit, filed for the plaintiffs by Santa Ana attorneys Daniel Watkins and Parisa Fishback.

In similar denial letters issued to workers, according to the suit, CHOMP said that “after careful review and consideration,” it determined that offering religious exemption requests would pose “a significant and direct threat to the health and safety of our patients,” coworkers and others.

CHOMP chief human resources officer Greg Smorzewski said Tuesday afternoon that the hospital has not yet been served with the complaint, but he defended the vaccination mandate.

“We determined that the presence of unvaccinated employees at work, contractors, or volunteers created an undue hardship for our vulnerable patient population and for our co-workers,” Smorzewski told The Pine Cone.

CHOMP, he went on to say, provided employees who requested religious exemptions a six-month leave of absence, “in which the first three months of the leave their job is protected.”

Five CHOMP employees and one doctor, who were able to work entirely remotely, were granted religious exemptions “because they do not present an undue hardship,” he said.

The civil lawsuit further alleges that CHOMP did not follow California Department of Public Health recommendations for workers who refuse the Covid-19 vaccine, which include twice-weekly Covid-19 testing for those who work in acute health care facilities and testing once a week for those in other healthcare settings.

“The denial of any employee’s request for a religious accommodation based upon the views of other individuals who do not share the employee’s beliefs is unlawful,” according to the suit.

The former CHOMP employees are seeking an undisclosed amount in damages, including punitive damages, (which can be awarded in cases involving gross negligence or intentional fraud) and financial losses, including loss of earnings and other compensation.


COUNTY'S CORONAVIRUS CASES CONTINUE AT LOW LEVEL

The world's attention may be focused on a new variant of the coronavirus that emerged in South Africa two weeks ago, but with zero cases of what's called the Omicron variant reported in the United States so far, the story here in Monterey County continues to be the low level of new Covid cases, and the very low incidence in many parts of the Monterey Peninsula.

In the last seven days, there have been 142 new cases of coronavirus among county residents, according to the Monterey County public health department — a rate of 31 cases per 100,000 residents, which is one of the lowest in the country. Hospitalizations and fatalities are also low.

In Carmel-by-the-Sea, and Carmel Area (93923) there were no new cases this week, while in Pebble Beach there were two, and in Carmel Valley there was one. Since the epidemic began, the overall infection rate in most parts of the Peninsula remains below 5 percent of residents. In Carmel-by-the-Sea, just 1.8 percent of the population has ever tested positive, while in Pebble Beach, the number is 2.3 percent. In Monterey County, 10.8 percent of the population has tested positive at some point during the epidemic.
 
Don't think so, UK does a lot of sequencing. Their tracking of delta's spread had a lot of detail.
I think we should take bets.

I think it would make it at least interesting to see what turns up as the most likely true source - still it could be a Southern African nation of course.

Perhaps a thread with a "cast vote" at the top to see who lands it?

I'm totally done with the seriousness of covid or anything related to it so I'm for a bit of fun with it if anyone else is sick and tired of the bullshit that comes with the virus. I stopped caring.
 
But even if it just improves your chances by lets say 10%, why is wearing a mask treated like they want you to allow men to marry?

I did try to get a full hazmat suit and add an in built trucker toilet, but was out of stock.

I can logically see the rna vaccine skepticism, that's why I used Sputnik.

But masks? Literally zero harm. Also covers up niggers' ugly mugs so it is am added bonus for your eyes.
Because engaging in normal human interaction is worth a 10% increased risk in contracting a mild cold.

Would you accept a mandate to wear glasses that reduce the world to a depressing, monochrome gray if muh science told you it reduced your chances of a headache by 10%
 
Our extremely small Omicron sample size tells us that the new variant is uber deadly for the unvaxxies, and a nothingburger for the vaxxies.

How convenient for our tyranny-loving overlords that need a new excuse to push harder towards their goals :)

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They said it! They said the "and that's a good thing" line! I just got bingo!
 

Biden officials consider stricter testing requirements for all travelers to the U.S. amid omicron variant concerns​

They are also weighing measures such as a seven-day self-quarantine and retesting several days after arrival.​


The Biden administration is preparing stricter testing requirements for all travelers entering the United States, including returning Americans, to curb the spread of the potentially dangerous omicron variant, according to three federal health officials.

As part of an enhanced winter covid strategy Biden plans to announce on Thursday, U.S. officials will require everyone entering the country to be tested one day before boarding flights, regardless of their vaccination status or country of departure. Administration officials are also considering a requirement that all travelers get retested within three to five days of arrival.

In addition, they are debating a controversial proposal to require all travelers, including U.S. citizens, to self-quarantine for seven days, even if their test results are negative. Those who flout the requirements might be subject to fines and penalties, the first time such penalties would be linked to testing and quarantine measures for travelers in the United States.

The two testing measures are detailed in a draft public health order written by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention that is under review by officials at the U.S. Health and Human Services Department and the White House. The self quarantine-related measures are not in that draft but could be added later if the proposals win broader signoff, said the officials who spoke on the condition of anonymity because the order has not been finalized.

Since Thursday, administration officials have held multiple calls to chart a response to contain the new variant which has a panoply of worrisome new mutations that may make it more transmissible, according to a senior administration official involved in the talks. Like a number of other nations, the United States immediately restricted travel from several southern African nations where the variant was first reported. But in recent days, since omicron has been identified in at least 19 countries spanning the globe, U.S. officials, among others, are considering additional precautions given that it may be several weeks before scientists are able to say whether the variant might be able to evade current vaccines and treatments.

Currently, the United States requires pre-departure coronavirus testing for both unvaccinated and vaccinated air travelers to the country. For those who show proof of full vaccination, that test must be conducted no more than three days before the flight’s departure. For someone who cannot show such proof, the test must be done no more than one day before departure. The new policy would require everyone to be tested one day before departure.

Other key details were still being ironed out on Tuesday. It’s not clear when the new policy would take effect. But given the urgency of limiting the spread of what might be a highly transmissible variant, speed is essential. It’s possible the policy could take effect in a week or two, according to one official.

During a White House covid briefing Tuesday, CDC Director Rochelle Walensky said the agency was considering a range of measures to protect Americans, including evaluating “how to make international travel as safe as possible, including pre-departure testing closer to the time of flight, and considerations around additional post-arrival testing and self-quarantines.”

Celine Gounder, an epidemiologist and infectious-diseases specialist who advised the Biden administration’s transition team on the covid-19 response, applauded stricter testing. “If it were up to me, to fly you should be fully vaccinated and we should also be testing 24 hours prior” to flight," she said.

Under the policy laid out in the public health order, travelers would be asked to self-attest that they would get retested within three to five days of arrival. It’s not clear whether travelers would be able to use self-administered rapid at-home tests. Viral tests check specimens from a person’s nose or mouth to find out if they are infected with the virus that causes covid-19.


The Justice Department also needs to weigh in on whether officials can ask people to self-quarantine, whether fines and penalties are enforceable, and if so, what those amounts should be, the officials said.

As a practical matter, state and local health departments are unlikely to be able to enforce requirements for additional testing and any self-quarantines once travelers arrive in the United States. More than 200,000 people arrived by plane daily in November, a figure that does not include travel over the Thanksgiving holiday, federal authorities said.

Even if only a quarter of those travelers comply with the requirements, however, it would make a difference by allowing for more prompt detection and isolation of at least some infected people who might be able to spread the virus, said public health experts.

“If you consider over 200,000 people a day [arriving in the United States], even 50,000 would help” determine the extent of spread, one official said in a text message.

Janet Hamilton, executive director of the Council of State and Territorial Epidemiologists, said that such measures are "a critical step for reducing transmission of SARSCoV-2, whether we are dealing with a newly emerging variant like Omicron or working to reduce transmission of already circulating strains.”

Since the start of the pandemic, different countries and territories have taken vastly different approaches toward preventing the spread of the coronavirus, with countries like Australia and China implementing some of the tightest border restrictions.

China has banned most foreign visitors, from tourists to students, from entering mainland China. Those few who are allowed to enter, as well as returning Chinese citizens, must undergo at least 14 days of strict quarantine, which can be extended to up to 28 days by local authorities, often followed by another lengthy period of home observation.

Since the discovery of omicron, many countries that had loosened their border restrictions have tightened them up again, including Great Britain, which said Friday that six southern African countries would be added to its “red” list. UK or Irish citizens or permanent residents returning from a red-listed country must quarantine in a hotel for 10 days, regardless of vaccination status, UK officials said. Citizens of other countries who have visited those countries will not be able to enter the UK at all.

UK officials announced further restrictions over the weekend, saying that anyone entering the country must now quarantine until they receive the results of a PCR test taken on their second day in the country. Anyone testing positive faces a 10-day quarantine.


 
Our extremely small Omicron sample size tells us that the new variant is uber deadly for the unvaxxies, and a nothingburger for the vaxxies.

How convenient for our tyranny-loving overlords that need a new excuse to push harder towards their goals :)

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They said it! They said the "and that's a good thing" line! I just got bingo!
You could fit every patient confirmed to have the new variant in my high school auditorium.
 
Beating the dead horse on this, but another news story about the super dangerous to kids covid. Look at this picture of health soon to be taken from us (she is intubated.) I'm surprised they actually showed pictures. I guess there's no way clever cropping could have hidden this. Even the slimming filtered on instagram would probably have been pushed to their limits.


It's one thing if you want to eat yourself to an early grave, but how does a parent let this happen? You control their diet. You should be aware your child does not need 8000 calories a day.

Oh no, it was definitely the vaccine that is keeping the older daughter safe, not that her freshly 12 year old sister probably out weighs her by triple....
Wow! Looks like hospitalizations of young people are on the rise!
Better get the vax you healthy youths! THAT COULD LITERALLY BE YOU!!!

But even if it just improves your chances by lets say 10%, why is wearing a mask treated like they want you to allow men to marry?

I did try to get a full hazmat suit and add an in built trucker toilet, but was out of stock.

I can logically see the rna vaccine skepticism, that's why I used Sputnik.

But masks? Literally zero harm. Also covers up niggers' ugly mugs so it is am added bonus for your eyes.
Stop trying to make me live in a society, europoid.
 
But masks? Literally zero harm. Also covers up niggers' ugly mugs so it is am added bonus for your eyes.
People are so hung up on the mask. Forget the mask, it just happened to be the first minor overreach of the government and it was used as a foot-in-the-door-tactic.
First the mask, then two weeks to flatten the curve, then mandatory testing, then excluding the unvaxxed from shops/activities, then two jabs, then the booster, then no jab no job to mandatory vaccination - it all started with a "harmless" mask. They're using people's compassion against them, that's the insidious thing about it. The people that don't want to wear a mask aren't heartless bastards, they just understand that you can't comply your way out of tyranny, it will never be enough.
 
The idea that wearing a dirty cloth face rag all day will do anything to stop a virus is so fucking dumb I can't believe someone would actually defend the practice in a non ironical way.
and we're not talking about nurses touching shit, we're talking about some dude coughing shit across the room the few minutes you share a supermarket with him and possibly getting it this way.

you are aware that by that logic there's no point in coughing and sneezing into your elbow either, right?

Even those don't work if any air is getting out around the edges.

Wear glasses? Mask cause your glasses to fog up? Your mask is useless.
useless at what? "stopping" the virus? no one claims that. useless at changing the dispersion pattern? if it's useless why does air get around the edges and not through it then?

Fauci said masks do nothing, dumbass.
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Your lies are causing stupid cowards to take poison, and are making lockdown politically viable. Stop persecuting your fellows with your lies.
>using fauci as reference
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guess it's ok when he says what you want. but then did you actually read what he wrote? "it might, however, provide some slight benefit in keep out gross droplets if someone coughs or sneezes on you". after pointing out who should wear a mask AND why he doesn't recommend her wearing one in that particular case.

yes, the mask shit is annoying but holy shit you people need to get a grip. you're becoming the kind of guy ripping off a surgeon's mask when he's operation on you, because fauci said they're useless after all...
 
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