US Joe Biden News Megathread - The Other Biden Derangement Syndrome Thread (with a side order of Fauci Derangement Syndrome)

Let's pretend for one moment that he does die before the election, just for the funsies. What happens then? Will the nomination revert to option number 2, aka Bernie Sanders? Or will his running mate automatically replace him just the way Vice-President is supposted to step in after the Big Man in the White House chokes on a piece of matzo? Does he even have a running mate yet?

 

[Celebrate Nite]

Fredo is out of CNN indefinitely. The statement from CNN attached.

I love how they're saying "We're getting rid of him to cover our asses" even though in the beginning they went "He broke a rule, but it's family, so whatever!". CNN, you still look bad in this.

 

[The Big O]

Fredo is out of CNN indefinitely. The statement from CNN attached.

Wow, CNN actually went ahead and booted him. I thought for sure they'd be too prideful to let him go, but I guess what he'd been up to was too radioactive even for their bottom line.

Couldn't have happened to a nicer wretch of a being.

 

[Oxous]

Fredo is out of CNN indefinitely. The statement from CNN attached.

Holy shit I didn't think they'd do it.

 

[Blackhole]

Fredo is out of CNN indefinitely. The statement from CNN attached.

Looks like that spaghetti's getting forgetti'd.
...yeah that joke sucks

 

[GuntPunt]

Holy shit I didn't think they'd do it.

Thought they would name his show "Chris!" before shitcanning him and admitting fault.

Now get rid of Don Lemon and Brian Stelter and I might give them a pity watch once in a while.

 

[Gehenna]

Fredo is out of CNN indefinitely. The statement from CNN attached.

That heavily implies Chris Cuomo engaged in something illegal, so they need to jettison him hard.

 

[SeniorFuckFace]

That heavily implies Chris Cuomo engaged in something illegal, so they need to jettison him hard.

Didn't Cuomo have #1 ratings over at CNN?

 

[The Nothingness]

Fredo is out of CNN indefinitely. The statement from CNN attached.

Why did they word it as "suspended indefinitely" instead of doing this?

 

[Oxous]

That heavily implies Chris Cuomo engaged in something illegal, so they need to jettison him hard.

Thoroughly unsurprised that a Cuomo family member would commit a crime to help a fellow Cuomo family member cover up their crimes.

Suck it, Fredo. Hopefully this is the end of the political dynasty.

 

[Gehenna]

Didn't Cuomo have #1 ratings over at CNN?

Yes, which is why this implies something serious. If it were minor they'd paper over it. Something moderately bad, they'd have him take some leave time while they plot the move.

Instead, we have one step below outright shitcanning.

 

[Oxous]

Didn't Cuomo have #1 ratings over at CNN?

Sorry for the double post, I can't insert quotes when editing.

Cuomo was by a big margin their most popular guy on the entire channel. Anderson Cooper is filling his slot now.

 

[Celebrate Nite]

Karma's sure a bitch, ain't it Fredo?

 

[Standardized Profile]

Curious as to why they state differently from Moderna, who have instead gone on to say that a new vaccine is needed.

Moderna's sole business is mRNA vaccines, and until they get something approved for flu or RSV, they're dependent on COVID. Demand for new COVID vaccines translates directly to increased demand for Moderna's product, and they can spin up a variant vaccine in a few months to realize profits from that demand. So their stock price got a nice boost from their CEO's remarks. Pfizer has a number of business lines, so they're less dependent on COVID. They can produce variant vaccines just as easily, but it doesn't have as large an effect on their bottom line.

The truth is nobody knows what omicron will do, and they won't know for weeks.

Oh nooooo....

Anyway:

I love how someone put it to me: So, if I avoid the shot, I have a 100% chance of avoiding side effects of the shot and 99.95% chance of avoiding CoVid? I think I like my chances.

The 99.95% chance of avoiding COVID is very likely wrong, and risk analysis requires one to consider the severity of an outcome, not just its probability.

 

[X Prime]

Rename yourself to Standardized Branch Covidian, this is getting way too predictable at this point.

I will also accept Standardized Pavlov.

 

[Jet Fuel Johnny]

Why did they word it as "suspended indefinitely" instead of doing this?

Because this way, being suspended, he can't draw unemployment, since he's technically still employed.

AHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAA!

 

[Gehenna]

Rename yourself to Standardized Branch Covidian, this is getting way too predictable at this point.

I will also accept Standardized Pavlov.

The worst part is that he isn't -wrong- in that severity is a key element of risk analysis... but that just leaves off that for the vast majority of people COVID even with the 'dangerous' strains is only, in the end, a bad flu in terms of lethality. And then ignores the risk of a leaky vaccine.

 

[X Prime]

The worst part is that he isn't -wrong- in that severity is a key element of risk analysis... but that just leaves off that for the vast majority of people COVID even with the 'dangerous' strains is only, in the end, a bad flu in terms of lethality. And then ignores the risk of a leaky vaccine.

I mean it doesn't even matter at this point if he's right or wrong. You can practically ring a bell when someone makes a COVID-19 comment and that guy will queue up an autonomic DEBOONK reaction.

 

[Gehenna]

I mean it doesn't even matter at this point if he's right or wrong. You can practically ring a bell when someone makes a COVID-19 comment and that guy will queue up an autonomic DEBOONK reaction.

I'd be more fine with it if it was consistently correct and on point, since a balance of opposing views to provide strong points to an otherwise stagnant consensus can be good. But when that counter at best is leaving off half the info... its not really good.

 

[chiobu]

happy holidays

Biden officials consider stricter testing requirements for all travelers to the U.S. amid omicron variant concerns​

They are also weighing measures such as a seven-day self-quarantine and retesting several days after arrival.​

The Biden administration is preparing stricter testing requirements for all travelers entering the United States, including returning Americans, to curb the spread of the potentially dangerous omicron variant, according to three federal health officials.

As part of an enhanced winter covid strategy Biden plans to announce on Thursday, U.S. officials will require everyone entering the country to be tested one day before boarding flights, regardless of their vaccination status or country of departure. Administration officials are also considering a requirement that all travelers get retested within three to five days of arrival.

In addition, they are debating a controversial proposal to require all travelers, including U.S. citizens, to self-quarantine for seven days, even if their test results are negative. Those who flout the requirements might be subject to fines and penalties, the first time such penalties would be linked to testing and quarantine measures for travelers in the United States.

The two testing measures are detailed in a draft public health order written by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention that is under review by officials at the U.S. Health and Human Services Department and the White House. The self quarantine-related measures are not in that draft but could be added later if the proposals win broader signoff, said the officials who spoke on the condition of anonymity because the order has not been finalized.

Since Thursday, administration officials have held multiple calls to chart a response to contain the new variant which has a panoply of worrisome new mutations that may make it more transmissible, according to a senior administration official involved in the talks. Like a number of other nations, the United States immediately restricted travel from several southern African nations where the variant was first reported. But in recent days, since omicron has been identified in at least 19 countries spanning the globe, U.S. officials, among others, are considering additional precautions given that it may be several weeks before scientists are able to say whether the variant might be able to evade current vaccines and treatments.

Currently, the United States requires pre-departure coronavirus testing for both unvaccinated and vaccinated air travelers to the country. For those who show proof of full vaccination, that test must be conducted no more than three days before the flight’s departure. For someone who cannot show such proof, the test must be done no more than one day before departure. The new policy would require everyone to be tested one day before departure.

Other key details were still being ironed out on Tuesday. It’s not clear when the new policy would take effect. But given the urgency of limiting the spread of what might be a highly transmissible variant, speed is essential. It’s possible the policy could take effect in a week or two, according to one official.

During a White House covid briefing Tuesday, CDC Director Rochelle Walensky said the agency was considering a range of measures to protect Americans, including evaluating “how to make international travel as safe as possible, including pre-departure testing closer to the time of flight, and considerations around additional post-arrival testing and self-quarantines.”

Celine Gounder, an epidemiologist and infectious-diseases specialist who advised the Biden administration’s transition team on the covid-19 response, applauded stricter testing. “If it were up to me, to fly you should be fully vaccinated and we should also be testing 24 hours prior” to flight," she said.

Under the policy laid out in the public health order, travelers would be asked to self-attest that they would get retested within three to five days of arrival. It’s not clear whether travelers would be able to use self-administered rapid at-home tests. Viral tests check specimens from a person’s nose or mouth to find out if they are infected with the virus that causes covid-19.


The Justice Department also needs to weigh in on whether officials can ask people to self-quarantine, whether fines and penalties are enforceable, and if so, what those amounts should be, the officials said.

As a practical matter, state and local health departments are unlikely to be able to enforce requirements for additional testing and any self-quarantines once travelers arrive in the United States. More than 200,000 people arrived by plane daily in November, a figure that does not include travel over the Thanksgiving holiday, federal authorities said.

Even if only a quarter of those travelers comply with the requirements, however, it would make a difference by allowing for more prompt detection and isolation of at least some infected people who might be able to spread the virus, said public health experts.

“If you consider over 200,000 people a day [arriving in the United States], even 50,000 would help” determine the extent of spread, one official said in a text message.

Janet Hamilton, executive director of the Council of State and Territorial Epidemiologists, said that such measures are "a critical step for reducing transmission of SARSCoV-2, whether we are dealing with a newly emerging variant like Omicron or working to reduce transmission of already circulating strains.”

Since the start of the pandemic, different countries and territories have taken vastly different approaches toward preventing the spread of the coronavirus, with countries like Australia and China implementing some of the tightest border restrictions.

China has banned most foreign visitors, from tourists to students, from entering mainland China. Those few who are allowed to enter, as well as returning Chinese citizens, must undergo at least 14 days of strict quarantine, which can be extended to up to 28 days by local authorities, often followed by another lengthy period of home observation.

Since the discovery of omicron, many countries that had loosened their border restrictions have tightened them up again, including Great Britain, which said Friday that six southern African countries would be added to its “red” list. UK or Irish citizens or permanent residents returning from a red-listed country must quarantine in a hotel for 10 days, regardless of vaccination status, UK officials said. Citizens of other countries who have visited those countries will not be able to enter the UK at all.

UK officials announced further restrictions over the weekend, saying that anyone entering the country must now quarantine until they receive the results of a PCR test taken on their second day in the country. Anyone testing positive faces a 10-day quarantine.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2021/11/30/omicron-stricter-travel-rules-us-entry/

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[Zig Zag]

Some things should not be centralized to that level, you hacks. Want something better? Start running a decent amount of buses and have those run on electricity. I'm sure you'll save the planet a lot more competently like that.

This is something that I will always be baffled by. I lived in NYC for the first >20 years of my life, and while I could rant about how the MTA is completely fucking awful in every aspect for days on end, I still think that it's rather impressive that the largest and oldest public transportation system in the entire world even runs at all, much less 24 hours a day (sort of) 365 days a year (kind of). I also will never stop touting the fact that you could get from the tip of Long Island to the border of Yonkers for $2.50 as long as you don't mind switching lines and going from bus to train to bus for the entire day that you'd be riding. I didn't own a car for many years and saved a ton of money and lost some pounds by walking and using public transpo everywhere. Moving to FL and finding out that the bus system is absolute garbage and doesn't run on Sundays or late at night was a big shock. Don't get me wrong, I love owning my car and the freedom it provides, but it is more expensive than relying on public transport.

It just makes no sense to me that anyone trying to push a Green agenda focuses only on eliminating those naughty internal combustion engines without offering any solutions in the form of better public transportation systems for towns and cities with populations over a certain level. Obviously having a robust 24 hour bus system in Buttfuck Nowhere, Nebraska is nonsensical, but for a decent-sized city here in FL it's weird that the options are so crappy. It ties into the nuclear (power) option which was brought up by another poster and how it's always dismissed when it's the Greenest of all. Just strange that the obvious solutions are always ignored or even argued against. I wonder if Mayor Pete Bootyjudge will ever give a reasonable answer to some of these problems. HAHA jk, I know it's not even on his radar.