Wuhan Coronavirus: Megathread - Got too big

[Fliddaroonie]

I've got a cold. Nothing serious, just the sniffles and a cough. Still not going to wear a mask, still gonna get the bus to work, gonna love every second of the scowls from the cunts who are scared of a minor vlrus.

 

[DaBigBopper]

So I've seen people go full circle now that the Unicorn-Variant has emerged. Back to "STOP KILLING GRANDMA, YOU SICKO SOCIOPATH!!! GET THE JAB!!!" I live stateside now (thankfully holy shit imagine if I was a Canuck still) and I still don't hear shit about how multiple states pushed for policy that lead to a lot of people dying in nursing homes, the bulk of the 3/4 Million is literally from that policy. Now we've been firing nurses and aides because they refuse to get the shot after many have seen adverse effects first hand, I've had some family members who work in healthcare admit to seeing a lot more heart issues pile up. And ignoring the vaccine bullshit if you just wanna ignore that, a lot of older people basically saw Covid as death incarnate and missed treatments.

The oddest thing is that we are literally going to get a fourth shot now. The South African Variant means that, but why do we try to cure an RNA virus? We can't do it to Influenza? Ignore the whole New World Order stuff and all of this makes no fucking sense. Coronaviruses from what I remember of my microbiology of health and disease classes are basically apart of the sphere of the common cold viruses. There is no point in curing them, they mutate too fast and they also play a role in outcompeting deadlier viruses. The way of thinking that's leading the fight against the Coronavirus is unorthodox to an absurd degree, we'd be better with public health officials who believe in humoristic theory.

Two years of this! Kids have been born in this time. They are normalized to the idea of their mother wearing mask in public. They're being raised in environments that are hyper-sterile, are we gonna see a generation with autoimmune disorders seen as common? That going to be the hot new minority?

 

[Protistology]

Haven’t read the thread in a while i have a question question regarding the mRNA vaccine that’s been given out for the last year or so:
Does it kill/slow t-cells in your body?
So in theory if someone were to develop cancerous cells or is even a recovering patient after cancer treatment would the vaccine be the sure death sentence?

If that is the case: oh boy, it’s going to get cancerous the next months or years.

It kills Killer T cells, it's like reverse AIDS which kills Helper T cells.

Cancer IS up. HPV, shingles, tuberculosis, meningitis, anything that you see in immunocompromised people will become more and more common.

The long term permanent heart damage is a separate issue.

 

[ToroidalBoat]

The oddest thing is that we are literally going to get a fourth shot now.

I like that there are a number who haven't even had one jab yet.

There is no point in curing them, they mutate too fast and they also play a role in outcompeting deadlier viruses.

This scamdemic has always been about seizing power (and at one point getting Orange Man out).

Two years of this!

Hopefully this insanity ends everywhere someday.

 

[Car Won't Crank]

I like that there are a number who haven't even had one jab yet.

HODL here my dudes. Mad props for those not succumbing.

 

[TextSurfer]

I've got a cold. Nothing serious, just the sniffles and a cough. Still not going to wear a mask, still gonna get the bus to work, gonna love every second of the scowls from the cunts who are scared of a minor vlrus.

Mad respect for having a backbone. I think I lost mine.
I'm based in good ol' Germany and about to be thoroughly fucked by our new government.
My lovely fellow countrymen treat me like absolute garbage and they actually do sic the cops on you when they see you ignoring the holy mask mandate. I got into a cop check of my test status in the fucking metro. They outed me as unjabbed by speaking about it and you should've seen the looks of disapproval from the people around me. Like a fucking leper. I hate it here.

 

[Fliddaroonie]

HODL here my dudes. Mad props for those not succumbing.

It was a close family member miscarrying that sealed it for me.

We are closely related and share a similar health profile. We have both had the same reaction to a number of drugs, meds, interventions and stuff.

She lost a baby and then had a stroke. Is semi paralysed and in a world of shit.

I will not risk that for a minor, trivial illness I had and was less severe than the cold I have now. Covid made me sleepy, this cold is robbing me of my kip.

I would take Covid over this shit anyday.

 

[None More Black]

HODL here my dudes. Mad props for those not succumbing.

the only issue i'm really worried about is my mom is on disability after a major back injury so if they tie a vaccine requirement to receiving federal funds or something like that my wife and i are gonna be in a rough spot trying to figure out what we're gonna do with her. she's pretty adamant about not getting it. (no one in my family has)

 

[borsabil]

So I've seen people go full circle now that the Unicorn-Variant has emerged. Back to "STOP KILLING GRANDMA, YOU SICKO SOCIOPATH!!! GET THE JAB!!!" I live stateside now (thankfully holy shit imagine if I was a Canuck still) and I still don't hear shit about how multiple states pushed for policy that lead to a lot of people dying in nursing homes, the bulk of the 3/4 Million is literally from that policy. Now we've been firing nurses and aides because they refuse to get the shot after many have seen adverse effects first hand, I've had some family members who work in healthcare admit to seeing a lot more heart issues pile up. And ignoring the vaccine bullshit if you just wanna ignore that, a lot of older people basically saw Covid as death incarnate and missed treatments.

The oddest thing is that we are literally going to get a fourth shot now. The South African Variant means that, but why do we try to cure an RNA virus? We can't do it to Influenza? Ignore the whole New World Order stuff and all of this makes no fucking sense. Coronaviruses from what I remember of my microbiology of health and disease classes are basically apart of the sphere of the common cold viruses. There is no point in curing them, they mutate too fast and they also play a role in outcompeting deadlier viruses. The way of thinking that's leading the fight against the Coronavirus is unorthodox to an absurd degree, we'd be better with public health officials who believe in humoristic theory.

Two years of this! Kids have been born in this time. They are normalized to the idea of their mother wearing mask in public. They're being raised in environments that are hyper-sterile, are we gonna see a generation with autoimmune disorders seen as common? That going to be the hot new minority?

No won't be 4 shots it will be way more than that.

If they admit that the ZOMG! variant has completely escaped the virus you'll have to line up for an entirely new vaccination schedule, which current thinking says will be a minimum of 3 jabs. The reason is simple, the body responds to vaccination by producing neutralising antibodies, viral escape means you'll need to induce novel antibodies to fight off the new variant. First jab, then second after 2 weeks then 3rd after 8-12 weeks. Depending on how that goes you might need a booster on top 3-6 months after your third dose (spoiler they're going to recommend boosters).

Put yourself in the place of an immunocompromised person. They've had to get a 3 dose vaccination schedule for Delta Covid, now they have to go get a booster and in a few weeks they'll be told to get another 4 shot program. 8 vaccinations in less than a year to stave off a moderately bad chest cold.

BTW this is the best case scenario. If yet another variant arises that escapes the vaccines (unlikely I'm sure) we'll be back to square one and it'll be yet more re-vaccinations and boosters. We discussed this on here when the vaccines were being rolled out but it was roundly dismissed as a conspiracy theory. How likely it is that the public will go along with this I don't know but they are 100% going to do this and seem to be getting ready to start issuing draconian punishments for refusers, including prison time.

 

[Vince McMahon]

People are shit and tyranny is inevitable.

They're not shit. It's just trust in human authority will inevitably lead to shit.

 

[BrokLesnerd]

My coworker finally got a diagnosis for all of her health issues this year; it is confirmed sarcoidosis of the liver. Now her mom had sarcoidosis of the lungs, but I'm still convinced this is vaccine related considering the timing with the administration of it. Seeing her fall apart in her mid 40s was unbelievable. Hope they can get her on a treatment plan and that she doesn't fall apart again...

And now another coworker has just come forward telling me that her mom has cancer in the lungs; a recent find within the last week. She kept getting sick off and on since May (right after vaccines....) and couldn't break a fever recently/had the bronch and pneumonia. She's only 70. Old but not completely on death's door... Sad.

So couple these two stories with the other coworker I talked to who developed severe allergies this year and my friend's mom being in the hospital finding out about a cancer diagnosis as well. And couple all of those with hearing about other people in my building having siblings/parents develop strokes and high blood pressure... It is not normal to hear about people getting sick so often or it didn't used to be.

While I agree this is normal, some of this is certainly a social contagion.

Because so many people are concerned about their health now, they're seeing doctors more often which results in things being diagnosed sooner, and everyone is going at the same time. Also, because everyone is so hyper-sensitive about their health, they're doing what social creatures do and over-sharing in hopes of finding some comfort, either that they aren't alone or in the form of sympathy.

Yes, people are being harmed by vaccines, and in numbers far larger than are acceptable, but I think that is being compounded by a general hysteria. Consider too that people are eating bad food more often while becoming more and more sedentary, to lifestyle "choices" that are known to lead to high blood pressure and strokes.

Basically, what I'm saying is that our public health measures have created an ouroboros of health problems. I certainly believe that a large number of these events are due to vaccines, but to blame ALL of them on vaccines is as foolish as blaming NONE of them on vaccines.

 

[SCSI]

US federal CoVax mandate legal slapfight update -- what happens in the 6th Circuit (may not) stay in the 6th Circuit edition.

Multiple overlapping squabbles on whether the combined challenge should stay in the 6th Circuit, and which judges exactly should hear it. A coalition of major unions, including the AFL-CIO, are petitioning to have the consolidated challenge removed to the DC circuit court (WTF is this court?). (Archive)

The Unions argue transfer is appropriate because the D.C. Circuit is the only court where petitioners on both sides of the ETS filed petitions for review, the government is located, and many lawyers representing various petitioners are located. The Unions further argue that the D.C. Circuit hears more agency challenges and specifically challenges to OSHA rulemaking than any other Circuit. As a result, they believe the D.C. Circuit has expertise in adjudicating complex administrative law cases, which make up a disproportionate share of its docket. The Unions also argue that a transfer would foster judicial economy because there could be natural overlap between the issues pending before the D.C. Circuit in the challenge to the healthcare ETS.

The feds are also arguing that, should the case remain in the 6th Circuit, that it should be heard by a three-judge panel, rather than en banc with all sixteen currently-sitting judges which the plaintiffs (guys who are against the mandate) have requested.

Meanwhile, the government has opposed the motions for the 6th Circuit to review the case en banc with all sixteen active judges. The government argues that an en banc hearing of the case would unduly delay adjudication of the merits and the exigent circumstances and grave danger requiring an ETS in the counsel against such delay. The government also argues that there is no inter-circuit or intra-circuit split requiring the extraordinary and rarely used procedure to have the case heard en banc at this point in the proceedings. In making this argument, the government notes that the ETS challengers claim that there is binding 6th Circuit and Supreme Court (referring to the CDC eviction moratorium litigations) which control the case and which they are not seeking to overturn. Therefore, the case should follow the normal procedures and be reviewed by a three-judge panel.

Why push for a three judge panel? Politics. Three judges gives the feds a shot at getting a majority of judges who were appointed by Democrat administrations, as opposed to a guaranteed Republican-appointed majority. (Archive) (But remember my comments in earlier posts about how trying to use Dem vs Rep appointments as a way to predict how a judge will rule -- it's often retarded. But that doesn't stop people from focusing on it anyway, especially when they're grasping for every little possible advantage.)

The reason for this request is that the Sixth Circuit is a majority Republican appointed judges (10 to 6, of which six were confirmed under the Trump Administration), which should give the plaintiffs a better shot at winning, or so they think.

Even if the Sixth Circuit denies the request for the en banc hearing, it could still do so after the three-judge panel makes a final ruling on the case. After that, the case is likely to be appealed to the Supreme Court.

As an added bonus, the 6th Circuit consolidated litigation is a speedrun challenge as we're almost out of Current Clown Year in which to hear it. (Archive)

The Sixth Circuit, which was selected in a multi-circuit lottery to hear the consolidated case challenging the OSHA standard, responded with a briefing schedule indicating it won’t rule on the administration’s request until after Dec. 10.

That means the briefing will run past Dec. 6, the emergency standard’s first major compliance deadline. The rule calls for employers by that point to develop a vaccine policy, determine employee vaccination status, and provide leave for worker vaccination or recovery.

Why does this matter? Because if the timeline slips much further, it's going to fuck up a lot of shit if it actually goes back into effect after all the courtroom shouting.

If the stay remains in place as of mid-December, then there’s near-zero chance the rule will be in effect by the Jan. 4 deadline for employers with at least 100 employees to ensure that their workers are fully vaccinated or to begin testing them regularly.

And even if government lawyers convince the Sixth Circuit to dissolve the order blocking the rule, OSHA will be forced to move back that vaccination-or-testing deadline, said David Coale, an appellate lawyer with Lynn Pinker Hurst & Schwegmann LLP.

Expecting employers to ramp up for that Jan. 4 deadline with only a few weeks lead time would be unreasonably burdensome, change some of the rule’s cost-benefit estimates, and open OSHA to allegations that it violated legally mandated procedures for establishing regulations, he said.

Above all this remains the big unanswered question -- what's on the Supreme Court's mind? Only time will tell -- and possibly less time than people expect.

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We're on to the UNICRON variant.

Wonder how much Kevin Gibes would pay for that one.

 

[BrokLesnerd]

Our extremely small Omicron sample size tells us that the new variant is uber deadly for the unvaxxies, and a nothingburger for the vaxxies.

How convenient for our tyranny-loving overlords that need a new excuse to push harder towards their goals

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They said it! They said the "and that's a good thing" line! I just got bingo!

2.4 TIMES or 2.4 PERCENT? Sure is interesting that measurement has been omitted.

 

[BrokLesnerd]

The problem is, the unvaccinated are just staying away.

Good. Even hanging the sign on the door makes you an enemy of the people. Any business owner who would sacrifice their customers in order to appease the government doesn't deserve the patronage of the public.

 

[Tanuki Mixed Nuts]

HODL here my dudes. Mad props for those not succumbing.

It's honestly not all that difficult where I'm at, in a relatively non-pozzed state. Though, at the same time even with all the fear mongering about places with lax mandates or none at all, I know only two people who've died during the past two years, one because covid delayed a treatment he needed and resulted in complications upon getting the treatment, and another being a grandmother passing in her sleep in her 80s of natural causes.

If I didn't have to go to an in-person job I likely wouldn't be aware of the "need" or overall push of a vaccine.

 

[X Prime]

Honestly, the people to really feel bad about are the purebloods in blue states. Especially those with jobs.

I know some poor broad who gave up and got jabbed only to get her job destroyed by corporate out of the blue the week of Thanksgiving.

 

[Mhallachd]

You're twisting the facts by presenting a ridiculously small list of alternatives, just to make yourself the victim again. Did you try any of these other options?

• Fake your paperwork
• Ask your PCP to squirt your shot into the trash and give you paperwork
• Bribe your PCP to squirt your shot into the trash and give you paperwork
• Ask / Bribe your PCP to issue a medical exemption
• Bribe anyone administering vaccines to give you fake paperwork
• Change jobs
• Move to a state which values citizen rights, such as Florida or Texas. There are about a dozen now.
• Seeking new employment
• Moving in with family
• Writing up requests for religious exemption
• Calling an attorney
• Playing dumb/ stalling
• Saying no and making them fire you

Was compliance the only option you tried? My main quibble is with words, just like the tranny debate. Forced is when they forcibly arrest you and inject you while restrained. Tricked or coerced is where they use lies, confidence tricks, propaganda and veiled threats to dupe you into voluntarily taking their poison, which is what you did. You weren't forced. You drove yourself, set your date yourself, chose which dispensary to visit, and went and got it. You were tricked, because you weren't forced. You don't get to play 100% victim. Pharma has plenty of blame too but those of us who said no rightly look down on the idiot complaint. You stood for no one and nothing. You won't stand for your fellows, because you won't even stand for yourself. In a crisis you can be counted on to do and stand for nothing, and now you're whining that other people know this about your character.

At the end of the day your bodily autonomy is either worth it to you or it isn't, and for you it wasn't. Or maybe you were too much of a coward to even let yourself think up any other options.

Your condemnation means nothing to me, which is another reason I didn't get the shot. And I'm sorry your compliance is harming the rest of society. We could end lockdown tomorrow if it weren't for you subhuman cowards. Live free or die. You chose die, so die already.

• Fake your paperwork

Wouldn't work, they have moved beyond showing a piece of paper, there is an entire tech infrastructure behind it all.

• Ask your PCP to squirt your shot into the trash and give you paperwork
• Bribe your PCP to squirt your shot into the trash and give you paperwork
• Ask / Bribe your PCP to issue a medical exemption

Maybe if I was living in a movie, a PCP tried that in Aussie and was arrested recently, got any other examples of this being attempted?

• Change jobs

To what? What can I apply for that doesn't require a vaccine? I went down that road in the month I had available to me.

• Move to a state which values citizen rights, such as Florida or Texas. There are about a dozen now.
• Seeking new employment

I don't live in a country that has states or a constitution.

• Moving in with family

They told me that wouldn't be an option.

• Writing up requests for religious exemption

The government allows no religious exemptions and they said less than 100 people in the country are likely eligible for exemptions.

• Calling an attorney

People are working on a case but we were only given a month.

• Playing dumb/ stalling

I did try that, as did many others at my work, only works for so long.

• Saying no and making them fire you

And then I'm right back to either becoming homeless or killing myself.

I wasn't tricked, I was forced. I know exactly what the elites are doing, I have dealt with Marxism and Jewish conquest of the west for a decade now. The concept of force only existing if they physically grab you or put a gun to your head only works if you disregard how tyranny and communism has taken control of entire countries and killed millions without physically forcing every single citizen to submit to the new rule.

You like to talk the big talk but what have you done for your people or your country? What sacrifices have you made? Or does it only count when the thought police come for you? Doesn't count when they just come for your neighbors huh? It's due to your inaction that I am in the situation I am in.

The fact is that you have no more power to change things than I do. Soon you will be told you have to take the vaccine and we will see if you really will throw everything away and become a martyr. Until then please remove the liberalism from your heart and try to find meaning and humanity in your life. Faggot.

 

[X Prime]

It reads mostly like you're trying to convince yourself you made an acceptable choice, more than anyone else.

 

[HTTP Error 404]

Unknown efficacy with even less long term safety data

But it's a traditional vax, not literal gene therapy packaged as a NeoVax after they literally had to redefine vax to make it count, so in the event of a "you MUST get a Vax or you can't buy food anymore" it's probably your best option. I imagine real vaccines like that can still have horrific side effects, though?

 

[BrokLesnerd]

Not sure how I'm seeing your faggy whining after ignoring you, but here we are.

Dear Mhallachd,

You still weren't forced. You chose to comply for the sake of your comfort. ONE care provider has been charged, and of course it was Australia. But you know what, there are no cameras in the injection room. You ask someone if they're greedy enough to accept your bribe. If they say no, you leave.

That loser in Australia only got arrested for breaking omerta. Had everyone involved in that injection kept their mouth shut, no one would have known.

Your description of where you live sure sounds like Canada. If that's the case, there are plenty of places you can move to. And just look at the many civil servants across the nation who have told their unions to fuck off.

All you had to do was stand your ground. You say you had a group of coworkers who also were briefly unwilling to be coerced into participating in a medical experiment. If all of you had held your ground and told the boss to fuck off, they would have had no choice to to acquiesce to your demands.

But no, you all buckled.

I got bamboozled into wearing a mask to cast my vote in the recent Federal election. But I chose to compromise in order to cast my ballot instead of telling the cops who showed up to fuck off. I made that choice.

That's no different than you choosing to compromise your literal body in the face of tyranny. You have no one to blame but yourself.

This is the future you chose. Don't call it a grave.