Wuhan Coronavirus: Megathread - Got too big

[ToroidalBoat]

society

Modern technocratic "society" isn't much of a society anyway.

It's more like an anonymous crowd forced to live together under excessive rules, "safe and secure".

Kind of like a prison.

 

[Male Idiot]

So you got jewed by Russian jews, what difference does it make? Again, both the mRNA and adenovirus vector are gene therapy. Both insert into the cell the genetic code to manufacture spike protein.
In fact, look up The Thought Emporium on youtube. He temporarily cured his own lactose intolerance by using an adenovirus vector to insert into his cells the code to produce lactase. It's still gene therapy.

Nobody has any reason to poison you specifically. This is a global effort, so argue accordingly. Israel allowed itself to be the Pfizer trial run and they fucked themselves over with it, nearly doubling the number of heart conditions in the younger age groups in 2021 compared to the 2019-2020 average. What reason does Israel have to poison the Israelis? So your argument is inherently flawed because you're looking for a reason in the wrong place entirely, and thus you cannot assume innocence from any party involved in this.

First, they're all complicit with Xi. So you can argue that it's not Xi that's complicit with anyone, it's just that he's such a player in the global stage that many bow to him.
Second, if Putin was really based he'd be calling out the BS.

New Ching doesn't produce enough to sustain Old Ching, and doesn't have enough kids to support him when he becomes old.
While Boomer Jack costs a lot in upkeep, he also spending his 401k in a fishing boat, trips to Florida and probably dropped a hundred grand per kid on college tuition. Boomer Jack is still useful, unlike future generations.

That doesn't even make any sense. Labor that doesn't require strength or good eyes is usually technical in nature. Older Chinese haven't been part of the workforce before the fucking 90s. They're nearly useless in any modern economy. Look outside the large cities, a ton of rural Chinese people still live like people in rural Africa live today.
You're thinking of a China that puts "Marxism" above "with Chinese characteristics".

Even though the Boomer Remover narrative might not pass a deeper look, the fact is that China is looking at a demographics collapse and all measures to advance their economy come at the cost of declining birth rates. If they were so brazen to just kill the old fuckers, you'd have heard of it by now

A global effort to kill their subjects off for what?

China doesn't believe in climate lie, or they would cut their own emissions.

You think all the goverments that hate each other are putting on a show, to kill half the people off, to stave off a problem they know is fake?
Was the cold war just for show too? Well at least I can rest easy now, I know that Hitler is fine, alive and drinking martian martinis with Stalin, Churchill, Elvis and Michael Jackson on their Moon Mansion.

You guys are making Vox Day sound rational, and should never dare to to cast a mean tweet at Chris chan. At this point at worst the motherfucker is as deluded as you are.

You realise that giving Chong smokes can't be spun as killing him in China since chingchongs love chainsmoking.

But hey, somehow, you'll going to beat the jews, chinks, ruskies who want your kind dead enough to put aside all differences and make a world wide masquerade, and all, and totally will chase their death-jab squads off with your Sith shotgun magic.

Yeah. Cope and dilate.

 

[Butcher Pete]

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I hate the EU so much

And that's why you do a Brexit/secede from the Union--to avoid the machinations of unaccountable foreign assholes who don't live here.

 

[teriyakiburns]

And that's why you do a Brexit/secede from the Union--to avoid the machinations of unaccountable foreign assholes who don't live here.

Yes, and replace them with the machinations of unaccountable local assholes. Layer upon layer of unaccountable fuckers. Peel one back and there's another waiting to screw you over with more arbitrary, ad-hoc rules and dictats. That's before getting to the appointed "advisors", who hold more influence over our supposed elected representatives than we, the people.

This isn't an exclusively european thing, either. The entire world has allowed this to happen. The question is how to fix it? At the moment I can't think of anything.

 

[Fliddaroonie]

And that's why you do a Brexit/secede from the Union--to avoid the machinations of unaccountable foreign assholes who don't live here.

I've never in my life been so glad the UK voted to leave the EU.

 

[Tanuki Mixed Nuts]

Honestly I've been feeling the same way. I used to really want to travel a lot, and there are still some places I'd like to see, but they world has become more homogeneous then I'd hoped it was.
Everywhere has the same schedule, the same streetlights, the same chains. Even in other countries you see the same things generally, just with a different coat of paint.
I was starting to feel this way before it all happened, but now I'm really in it.

I have found myself sort of in the same spot as well. Though I never really wanted to travel, I wanted to move somewhere different to where I have been for decades. The pandemic has sort of shown that I'm lucky to be where I am, as I have seen very little of the insanity in the past couple years outside of the internet. It's somewhat nice to have the world nullify a lot of the worry your life by showing you that you've got it pretty good.

 

[UVB-76]

A global effort to kill their subjects off for what?

Again, who said anything about killing? You're stuck on your own theory on what the shot does.

China doesn't believe in climate lie, or they would cut their own emissions.

You know who else doesn't believe in climate change? The people flying in private jets and buying shoreside properties. Plenty of those people in the West.

You think all the goverments that hate each other are putting on a show, to kill half the people off, to stave off a problem they know is fake?
Was the cold war just for show too? Well at least I can rest easy now, I know that Hitler is fine, alive and drinking martian martinis with Stalin, Churchill, Elvis and Michael Jackson on their Moon Mansion.

Again insisting on the killshot theory.

You guys are making Vox Day sound rational, and should never dare to to cast a mean tweet at Chris chan. At this point at worst the motherfucker is as deluded as you are.

I'm irrational but you're the one saying the shot is going to kill everyone and refuse any alternate explanations for the global push. I'm irrational but I'm not the one sperging about Elvis in a discussion about adenovirus as gene therapy.

You realise that giving Chong smokes can't be spun as killing him in China since chingchongs love chainsmoking.

It's not working fast enough. Smoking is great for governments when lung cancer kills 40 and 50 year olds, meaning a small cost in cancer treatments means savings on all the benefits they won't collect. By the time people get to retirement age, you already allowed them to drain the system and giving them cancer is only going to cost more.
If chainsmoking was the Boomer Remover, China wouldn't be staring down a demographic collapse.

But hey, somehow, you'll going to beat the jews, chinks, ruskies who want your kind dead enough to put aside all differences and make a world wide masquerade, and all, and totally will chase their death-jab squads off with your Sith shotgun magic.

Yeah. Cope and dilate.

No, you're the one who thinks he beat the game by getting the Russian shot, then comes here to do victory laps because he's not smart enough to read the fine print.
You're the one bringing up Hitler and Elvis to deflect from the fact that you got got by Ivan.
I made peace with my choice not to get anything, you seem to be troubled with yours considering how many paragraphs you dedicated to defending it.

 

[The Big O]

Honestly, the people to really feel bad about are the purebloods in blue states. Especially those with jobs.

The sentiment is appreciated since I'm one such example. All my immediate family members have been jabbed. Both my parents, both my college-educated sisters. They are aware I am unvaxxed and while they're respecting my decision, I quietly lament what these shots may possibly do to each of them in the next few years.

I am just glad my job is something not directly requiring or implementing the vax. Means I can bilk as much money to save up on as possible and get outta dodge to a red state. Been eyeing Georgia very heavily for some time now... might be soon time to leap the proverbial Berlin Wall.

 

[Freedom Fighter]

I've got a cold. Nothing serious, just the sniffles and a cough. Still not going to wear a mask, still gonna get the bus to work, gonna love every second of the scowls from the cunts who are scared of a minor vlrus.

Spoiler: Minor pl?

I've had... something or other for the last couple days. 100 f degree fever for like 3 days, sore muscles for a day. My nose feels like I have that itch before a sneeze constantly, and my eyes hurt when I look far to the side. Otherwise feel pretty okay.

Still not wearing any of that shit. People around here don't seem to care, even though it's a fairly left area.

 

[low sodium]

You and a couple of others running away won't fix your country.

Exactly.

When presented with a problem, they advise to either fake comply, which only legitimizes the government further, or to move elsewhere. This is the same thing we tell immigrants from poor countries who come to rich countries: don't come here, rather try to fix your own country, damnit!

Therefore: no, I will not move away. I will stay here and try to fight against tyranny as best as I can.

 

[ducktales4gameboy]

I wonder if anybody ever analyses the traffic for all these science journal websites and sees where the referrals are from. It tickles me that at the New England Journal of Medicine office a conversation goes like:

"Hey, lots of traffic on our last paper."
"Oh, cool. Where's it coming from - The BBC? Facebook? Universities?"
"Seems to be something called... KiwiFarms? I wonder who they are? <click>"

Hopefully some of them start posting as well, most of the important research articles tend to turn up here before they make the circuit elsewhere,

But it makes no sense for Putin or Xi to be on board with them.

I recall reading about a thousand pages back that Americans in China during the lockdown who received the Chinese vaccine were being forced to get a second vax with moderna/pfizer when they returned to the country. If there's any sort of conspiracy regarding the vaccines themselves I'd bet it's an American thing solely and said conspiracy is probably nothing more than a dumb moneymaking scheme to sell as much product as possible.

 

[HTTP Error 404]

@Mhallachd

You're allowed to be upset about what's happened. You're allowed to feel like the situation's fucked. Lots of people made the same decision as you.

Don't be a victim.

The side effects are probably overblown or at least aren't 100%, and from what I hear as long as you don't go nuts with the boosters or second jab, it's less likely.

Do what you have to do to keep yourself and those around you safe. There are more of us opposing the Branch Covidians than supporting them, and they can't arrest all of us.

 

[Puff]

@Mhallachd
They can't arrest all of us.

Have you heard of a "gulag"? There'll be a lot of space in the prison system if they do drug crime reform...

 

[HTTP Error 404]

Have you heard of a "gulag"? There'll be a lot of space in the prison system if they do drug crime reform...

I haven't read Solzhenitsyn, but I do know the lessons: Refuse to embrace the lies, and when they come for you and your family, die fighting.

 

[Male Idiot]

Again, who said anything about killing? You're stuck on your own theory on what the shot does.

You know who else doesn't believe in climate change? The people flying in private jets and buying shoreside properties. Plenty of those people in the West.

Again insisting on the killshot theory.

I'm irrational but you're the one saying the shot is going to kill everyone and refuse any alternate explanations for the global push. I'm irrational but I'm not the one sperging about Elvis in a discussion about adenovirus as gene therapy.

It's not working fast enough. Smoking is great for governments when lung cancer kills 40 and 50 year olds, meaning a small cost in cancer treatments means savings on all the benefits they won't collect. By the time people get to retirement age, you already allowed them to drain the system and giving them cancer is only going to cost more.
If chainsmoking was the Boomer Remover, China wouldn't be staring down a demographic collapse.

No, you're the one who thinks he beat the game by getting the Russian shot, then comes here to do victory laps because he's not smart enough to read the fine print.
You're the one bringing up Hitler and Elvis to deflect from the fact that you got got by Ivan.
I made peace with my choice not to get anything, you seem to be troubled with yours considering how many paragraphs you dedicated to defending it.

Nope I just love shitting on retards.

Oh, and yes, the vaccine in british stats reduced covid mortality. Elementary math proves it.

Any other hilarious thing to add? Like explaining how Ivan had me? At worst he collected a tiny amount of my taxes and cut like 50 cells on my skin. Oh how will I ever survive that.

 

[Meriasek]

Exactly.

When presented with a problem, they advise to either fake comply, which only legitimizes the government further, or to move elsewhere. This is the same thing we tell immigrants from poor countries who come to rich countries: don't come here, rather try to fix your own country, damnit!

Therefore: no, I will not move away. I will stay here and try to fight against tyranny as best as I can.

I'd agree, but I don't care enough about this country and its people to bother fixing it anymore. It's not much of a tyranny if the people love it and beg for more. It's lived democracy, and I'll just take my business elsewhere.

 

[Enjoy_the_Soylence]

US courts continue to sometimes work, unlike the rest of the world's courts:

Federal Judge Rejects DOD Claim That Pfizer EUA and Comirnaty Vaccines Are ‘Interchangeable’

A federal district court judge rejected a claim by the U.S. Department of Defense that the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine being administered under Emergency Use Authorization is interchangeable with Pfizer’s fully licensed Comirnaty vaccine.

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A federal district court judge has rejected a claim by the U.S. Department of Defense (DOD) that the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine being administered under Emergency Use Authorization is interchangeable with Pfizer’s Comirnaty vaccine, which in August was fully licensed by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA).


In an order issued Nov. 12 in Doe et al. v. Austin, U.S. Federal District Judge Allen Winsor of the U.S. District Court for the Northern District of Florida denied a preliminary injunction requested by 16 service members against the U.S. Military’s COVID vaccine mandate. A hearing is scheduled for Sept. 14, 2022.

<snip>

There are key differences between fully licensed vaccines and those authorized under EUA. EUA products are considered experimental under U.S. law. This means they cannot be mandated, and everyone has the right to refuse such vaccines without consequences.

Another conspiracy theory officially true. There's a link to the FDA paper, they admit the shots are different, they just claim it doesn't affect the safety & effectiveness. I'm a conspiracytard now so I doubt even that. Remember the extreme differences in side effects by lot numbers that no one has explained.

 

[UVB-76]

Nope I just love shitting on retards.

Oh, and yes, the vaccine in british stats reduced covid mortality. Elementary math proves it.

Any other hilarious thing to add? Like explaining how Ivan had me? At worst he collected a tiny amount of my taxes and cut like 50 cells on my skin. Oh how will I ever survive that.

Maybe you weren't paying attention when it was posted but a couple of months ago we saw that in September 2021 the UK had an average of deaths 10x higher than September 2020.
There's also the elementary fact that 2020 wiped out the vulnerable, left lasting immunity in the infected, and the variant was stronger. In 2021 you have a less vulnerable population due to the deaths from the previous year, natural immunity and a weaker variant. It's elementary science to control for variables.
Ivan had you because you came here bragging about not getting the mRNA shit. If you think all they got out of you was money, then why would you be concerned about mRNA? Clearly you're afraid of something, Ivan got you by tricking you into thinking you didn't get gene therapy. You did, just delivered differently.

 

[jje100010001]

https://twitter.com/17cShyteposter/status/1465923977356865541

 

[Super-Chevy454]

Fraudci had made a new foe named Piers Morgan who bashed him in an op-ed in the Daily Mail.

PIERS MORGAN: Flip-Flop Fauci's partisan political point-scoring shows he's more interested in promoting himself than saving lives – he should park his gigantic ego, stay off TV and shut up​

By PIERS MORGAN FOR MAILONLINE

PUBLISHED: 10:11 EST, 29 November 2021 | UPDATED: 21:37 EST, 29 November 2021

I've never heard Dr Anthony Fauci's cell phone voicemail greeting, but I imagine it says: 'Yes, I'll come on your show.'

For someone whose day job is supposed to be leading America's scientific and medical war against Covid-19, he seems to have an incredible amount of spare time for self-promotional media interviews.

Barely a week seems to go by without him popping up on TV or in newspapers and magazines, and as time has gone on, Fauci's become more and more brazenly political in those interviews since the Biden administration took over.

Yesterday, he was everywhere again, speaking about the new Omicron variant.

What he said in these new interviews should give every American serious for concern, not just about the latest Covid threat but about some of the outrageously partisan statements the country's top doctor made.

The most egregious came on CBS's Face The Nation when Fauci burst out laughing after he was asked about Republican senator Ted Cruz calling for him to be prosecuted over his links to the Wuhan Institute of Virology from where many think the coronavirus outbreak leaked.

'I should be prosecuted?' he chuckled. 'What happened on January 6th, senator?'

The interviewer, Margaret Brennan, then asked if he thought he was being used as a scapegoat to deflect attention from President Trump's culpability over the Capitol riots.

'Of course!' Fauci smirked. You have to be asleep not to figure that one out!'

'Well,' pressed Brennan, 'there are a lot of Republican senators taking aim at this.'

'That's okay,' replied Fauci, 'I'm just gonna do my job. I'm gonna be saving lives, and they are gonna be lying.'

Brennan then said: 'It seems another level of danger to play politics around matters of life and death.'

To which Fauci, without a trace of self-awareness, nodded: 'Exactly. And to me, that's unbelievably bad, because all I want to do is save people's lives.'

Right, and the best way to do that is to alienate half the country from listening to you by trading in political point-scoring!

It's always a worrying indicator of rampant egomania when a public figure starts talking about themselves in the third person, and sure enough that's what Fauci then did.

'Anybody who's looking at this carefully realizes that there's a distinct anti-science flavor to this,' he said. 'If they get up and criticize science, nobody's going to know what they're talking about. But if they get up and really aim their bullets at Tony Fauci — people could recognize there's a person there, so it's easy to criticize. But they're really criticizing science, because I represent science, and that's dangerous.'

Wow. He sounds more like a religious leader berating non-believers than a scientist trying to grapple with a pandemic that has seen more scientific flip-flopping than any global medical crisis in my lifetime.

The parallel is apt because the more he's been attacked, the more self-righteous, zealous and preachy Fauci has grown.

Now aged 80, and said to be 'exhausted' after working every day for the past 20 months, he's showing signs of a stubborn, irascible resistance to any challenge to his, often contradictory, pronouncements that is now doing more harm than good.

The problem with Fauci saying he IS the Science is that so often in the pandemic, he's got the science plain wrong.

In January 2020, when Covid first erupted in China, Fauci declared the virus was 'not a major threat for the people of the United States and this is not something the citizens of the United States right now should be worried about.'

Fauci then said Covid was less concerning than the flu, which again was proven to be total nonsense.

In subsequent weeks, Fauci repeatedly said the public shouldn't bother buying masks as they were ineffective.

'If you look at the masks that you buy in a drug store,' he said, 'the leakage around that doesn't really do much to protect you.'

He also told 60 Minutes: 'People should not be walking around in masks.'

Three months later, he conceded masks do work, and since then has demanded everyone wear them, though his guidance on when and where people should wear them has changed more often than a chameleon having an acid trip.