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[Hippopatumus]

But you can use that same argument to claim is skewed in the other sense. What if most of the VAERS reports were submitted by people who regret taking the vaccine soon after taking it?
Like say they happily agreed to take part in the trials in Dec 2020 but within a month or two (while the trial is still running) they talked to their conspiratard relative who managed to convince them that vaccines will be exploited politically? They would start submitting fraudulent VAERS reports.
So maybe the true number is closer to 0.001%

Unhappy customers are a lot more vocal than apathetic ones.. plus why would you regret it if nothing happened? 99% of people don't even know what VAERS is. Shit a worrying number of doctors don't know what it is.

I'm not saying you're certainly wrong I'm just saying logic skews in the direction of my argument.

 

[talk sh1t]

99% of people don't even know what VAERS is. Shit a worrying number of doctors don't know what it is.

That's a good point.
Actually I'm pretty sure there's at least one recent study that deals precisely with how reliable VAERS numbers are taking into account general awareness of VAERS itself, I think someone posted it in this thread at one point.
Properly quantifying the awareness of VAERS would allow to adjust current VAERS numbers to reflect the real situation.

 

[Hippopatumus]

The problem is that we are literally still in the midst of "clinical trials" of this shit so VAERS is not even the right tool for diagnosing issues with these injections.

It's not that VAERS is bad or wrong, it could certainly be better, but that we are actually injecting people with untested drugs. Final Pfizer stage 3 trial ends in what... 2024 I think?


lol

 

[chiobu]

Saw this on (surprisingly) reddit

First Omicron case confirmed in Iceland. The person had NOT been abroad and doesn't know how he was infected. He's in hospital and had recently had a booster shot. Iceland sequences all PCR tests.

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Sá sem greindist smitaður af omíkron nýbúinn að fá örvunarskammt - Vísir

Sóttvarnalæknir segir ekki koma á óvart að omíkron-afbrigði kórónuveirunnar hafi greinst hér á landi. Nú þurfi hins vegar að bíða svara við spurningunni hvort bólusetningin gegn Covid-19 verndi fólk gegn þessu nýja afbrigði veirunnar.

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[XANA]

Historically, only 1% of incidents are reported to VAERS. So what we see on VAERS is only a small subset of reality.

Additionally, we can take into account that a greater number of incidents go unreported due to not having enough data to correlate reactions with the shot (eg: vaccine shot date was not asked, doctors weren't aware of how often it happened during the initial shot rounds), patient ignorance, willful denial (doctors dismissing the possibility of reactions being related to shots and not reporting it), or political pressure to keep the narrative that the vaccines are safe and effective. This could translate to the patient complaining about it to their friends/family, but not officially, so their adverse reaction(s) wouldn't be counted.

 

[talk sh1t]

Historically, only 1% of incidents are reported to VAERS. So what we see on VAERS is only a small subset of reality.

Additionally, we can take into account that a greater number of incidents go unreported due to not having enough data to correlate reactions with the shot (eg: vaccine shot date was not asked, doctors weren't aware of how often it happened during the initial shot rounds), patient ignorance, willful denial (doctors dismissing the possibility of reactions being related to shots and not reporting it), or political pressure to keep the narrative that the vaccines are safe and effective. This could translate to the patient complaining about it to their friends/family, but not officially, so their adverse reaction(s) wouldn't be counted.

Hmmmm but in the case of a vaccine's clinical trial, wouldn't the participants all be explicitly informed about the existence of VAERS? That would improve the accuracy of the VAERS numbers for some of the points you mention.

 

[The Wicked Mitch]

Noticable uptick in propaganda regarding muh climate, consumption, meat, travel etc etc

Better get ready for climate lockdowns now that most of the western world has been properly conditioned.

Exactly in line with muh accidentally leaked Behavioral Insights Team document, it's all so tiresome.

 

[low sodium]

Let's see if the German nigger cattle do anything.

Except for the literal alien invasion, there is zero chance of that happening. The Germans are obsessed with cleanliness and rules, and the scamdemic plays right into both obsessions. The unvaccinated are not human, they are carriers of the dangerous virus! You don't want to breathe in the air they exhaled, do you? Best to lock them up.

Unbiased, untampered with information is surpressed and nearly impossible to find, you have to actively look for it, while the MSM is pushing the propaganda 24/7. Yesterday Olaf Scholz, the next chancellor, made a TV appearance in a popular primetime show aimed at 18-49 year olds, giving a moving speech to please, PLEASE, get vaccinated - while the mandatory vaccination is already on its way. It's all a show and I desperately want to change the channel.

The Germans have learned nothing.

 

[tehpope]

Noticable uptick in propaganda regarding muh climate, consumption, meat, travel etc etc

Better get ready for climate lockdowns now that most of the western world has been properly conditioned.

Exactly in line with muh accidentally leaked Behavioral Insights Team document, it's all so tiresome.

I don't think people are gonna take kindly to "climate lockdowns". The yellowvests have been protesting for years right now over gas prices. They'll explode once the EU and other nations say "You have to buy an expensive electric car, stop eating beef / chicken, use less electricty, and change your whole way of living." Meanwhile the elites don't change anything about their lifestyles and continue to flaunt it.

Switching to all electric is gonna fuck shit up. people aren't ready for high electric bills. And its gonna fuck over rural folks because they're basically gonna be forced to move to the cities. I'm doubtful the elites are gonna build infrastructure for charging stations out in the boonies when they want everyone under their thumbs. That's not to mention the power grids being overloaded once everyone is forced to charge their new electric vehicles every night. People are gonna get angry when its the middle of winter and the government tells them "Sorry, your area is gonna be without power for the night. Have some warm blankets.".

There's already protests in Europe and AUS. Expect more and more as the screws tighten.

 

[Mao Hao Hao]

One of my coworkers (he's in his mid 30's) had the booster last weekend, and couldn't come to work for a couple of shifts. Very unlike him, as he is almost never off unless its serious. I asked him what happened, and he stated it was a mix of his chest feeling compressed, pains up and down his arms, cold and hot, and couldn't get out of bed. Pretty much confirmed my decision to not get it, as I already had a pretty bad reaction to the first dose of vaccine months ago, so who knows what the booster would do.
I'm glad I live in a more rural area at least, so there's not many who care about strict mask wearing or getting boosters/further vaccines. I fear the media is starting to paint areas like this as full of 'backwards' and 'ignorant' people though.

 

[Slimy Time]

Except for the literal alien invasion, there is zero chance of that happening. The Germans are obsessed with cleanliness and rules, and the scamdemic plays right into both obsessions. The unvaccinated are not human, they are carriers of the dangerous virus! You don't want to breathe in the air they exhaled, do you? Best to lock them up.

Unbiased, untampered with information is surpressed and nearly impossible to find, you have to actively look for it, while the MSM is pushing the propaganda 24/7. Yesterday Olaf Scholz, the next chancellor, made a TV appearance in a popular primetime show aimed at 18-49 year olds, giving a moving speech to please, PLEASE, get vaccinated - while the mandatory vaccination is already on its way. It's all a show and I desperately want to change the channel.

The Germans have learned nothing.

Germans obsessed with cleanliness and rules... Nazi Germany makes a lot more sense now.

I have no doubt that the rest of Europe will try and follow this, with varying degrees of success.

 

[Some Badger]

Germans obsessed with cleanliness and rules... Nazi Germany makes a lot more sense now.

I have no doubt that the rest of Europe will try and follow this, with varying degrees of success.

I can see France trying it since Macron is already enforcing mandates to eat indoors, but the French people can be based when they want to be. You'll know when they roll out a guillotine.

sil vou plait, mon Dieu, fais la arriver

 

[Super-Chevy454]

I can see France trying it since Macron is already enforcing mandates to eat indoors, but the French people can be based when they want to be. You'll know when they roll out a guillotine.

sil vou plait, mon Dieu, fais la arriver

Also I don't know if Pfizer have regional offices as well as plants in Europe but by playing the devil's advocate, it'll be too bad if something bad happen to one of their offices and/or plants...

 

[Slimy Time]

I can see France trying it since Macron is already enforcing mandates to eat indoors, but the French people can be based when they want to be. You'll know when they roll out a guillotine.

sil vou plait, mon Dieu, fais la arriver

Yellowjackets say hi.
This was yesterday: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-59497462
The EU is pushing for full on "fuck your bodily autonomy". Apparently 1/3 haven't taken the jab. That is 1/3 who hopefully, if pushed by politicians, is going to push back.

I think my read of where I am in Euroland is that the current admin is on thin ice with the locals, given the very serious and criminal scandals of the party in the past few years, and that people will seriously fuck them up if they push this issue.

 

[Hollywood Hitler]

Saw this on (surprisingly) reddit

First Omicron case confirmed in Iceland. The person had NOT been abroad and doesn't know how he was infected. He's in hospital and had recently had a booster shot. Iceland sequences all PCR tests.

r/Coronavirus - First Omicron case confirmed in Iceland. The person had NOT been abroad and doesn't know how he was infected. He's in hospital and had recently had a booster shot. Iceland sequences all PCR tests.

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Sá sem greindist smitaður af omíkron nýbúinn að fá örvunarskammt - Vísir

Sóttvarnalæknir segir ekki koma á óvart að omíkron-afbrigði kórónuveirunnar hafi greinst hér á landi. Nú þurfi hins vegar að bíða svara við spurningunni hvort bólusetningin gegn Covid-19 verndi fólk gegn þessu nýja afbrigði veirunnar.

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Must be a slow news day if they have to report on people getting the cold in winter

 

[Fanatical Pragmatist]

Turns out these Dutch people have even more detailed, weekly statistics. Skip to page 81 of the weekly PDF for an age-cohort distribution of Cases and Deaths.

I personally Scienced™ this into a more visual format:

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What do we learn from this:

• Average Case age is 38,9
• Median Case cohort is 35–39
• Average Death age is 81,5 (counting 95+ as 97)
• Median Death cohort is 80–84

In the combined Cases/Deaths graph you can see that Cases are mostly uncorrelated to Deaths (as mentioned in my previous analysis). The average Death age of 81,5 is more than two years higher than the average 79 year life expectancy in the Netherlands. So you're better off having the virus.

From the bottom-right pie chart it's also instantly clear that no young people are dying with the virus. Not even boomers really.

Also, in total about 20K virus Deaths have been recorded over 20 months. That's roughly 8% of all deaths in the Netherlands. Forcing vaccinations and throwing people in jail will probably not prevent the other 92% of deaths.

Yeah I know nobody brings this point up anymore, but this pretty much slams the "higher exposure" narrative that was running around early in the pandemic; that old people were dying because they were "more exposed" than young people, and the minute we opened schools the % of young people dying of COVID would skyrocket.

So it's 42'000 VAERS reports out of 10 Million, so 0.42%. 1'000 deaths means a 0.01% mortality of vaccinated during this 3 months period.

I have no idea if this is bad or not. How does a 0.01% mortality compare to clinical trials for other drugs and vaccines?

From here: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33289900/

Our analysis finds a exponential relationship between age and IFR for COVID-19. The estimated age-specific IFR is very low for children and younger adults (e.g., 0.002% at age 10 and 0.01% at age 25)

That basically means someone at Age 25 has almost equal risk of dying from the Vax as they do COVID, assuming no numbers fudging.
It also means someone at Age 10 is 5x as likely to die from the vaccine as from COVID.

 

[Protistology]

A 35 y.o woman I work with got her booster yesterday morning and she's been under the weather since. We were in the office today and throughout the day she would say "Every bone in my body is aching" "My son has football tonight I don't know how i'm going to stay awake" "That vaccine knocked me on my ass" etc. Idk it didn't sound like her at all.

Stay away from her. Especailly if you're a woman. She's still in the shedding phase.

Also, more proof the jab damages your DNA.

Spike Protein Goes to Nucleus and Impairs DNA Repair (In-Vitro Study - Not Possible In-Vivo)

Spike Protein Goes to Nucleus and Impairs DNA Repair (In-Vitro Study)In this concerning in-vitro study the researchers show how SARS-COV-2 Spike protein and ...

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[Qtinterval]

That's a good point.
Actually I'm pretty sure there's at least one recent study that deals precisely with how reliable VAERS numbers are taking into account general awareness of VAERS itself, I think someone posted it in this thread at one point.
Properly quantifying the awareness of VAERS would allow to adjust current VAERS numbers to reflect the real situation.

Exactly.....I never learned about vaers, until around 4 and a half years ago.

Historically, only 1% of incidents are reported to VAERS. So what we see on VAERS is only a small subset of reality.

Additionally, we can take into account that a greater number of incidents go unreported due to not having enough data to correlate reactions with the shot (eg: vaccine shot date was not asked, doctors weren't aware of how often it happened during the initial shot rounds), patient ignorance, willful denial (doctors dismissing the possibility of reactions being related to shots and not reporting it), or political pressure to keep the narrative that the vaccines are safe and effective. This could translate to the patient complaining about it to their friends/family, but not officially, so their adverse reaction(s) wouldn't be counted.

I still haven't filed a vaers report for my experimental jab 20 years ago.....likely never will since not going to change anything and it's not like I can sue anyone for the damage caused.

 

[jje100010001]

Stay away from her. Especailly if you're a woman. She's still in the shedding phase.

Also, more proof the jab damages your DNA.

Spike Protein Goes to Nucleus and Impairs DNA Repair (In-Vitro Study - Not Possible In-Vivo)

Spike Protein Goes to Nucleus and Impairs DNA Repair (In-Vitro Study)In this concerning in-vitro study the researchers show how SARS-COV-2 Spike protein and ...

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Seems to be more an issue with the spike protein in general; I posted earlier a French article that also discussed the possibility that the oxidative effects of the inflammatory response to the spike protein also possibly induced telemore shortening?

Will have to watch this video later, but I wonder if these are linked? And aren't the spike proteins in the vaccines altered?

Regardless, it seems like the worse the illness, or the more spike proteins circulating in you, the worse the possible effects.

 

[Protistology]

Seems to be more an issue with the spike protein in general; I posted earlier a French article that also discussed the possibility that the oxidative effects of the inflammatory response to the spike protein also possibly induced telemore shortening?

Will have to watch this video later, but I wonder if these are linked?

Regardless, it seems like the worse the illness, or the more spike proteins circulating in you, the worse the possible effects.

I agree. But having some spike proteins in your nasal tract and lungs is nothing compared to your cells producing spike proteins in your blood stream and organs. The vax was the true disease all along.