The Cole Smithey Thread

Wasn’t Barb the one being an idiot with a firearm? The cwiki is down so I can’t check.
Yes she was, supposedly a intruder was in the home and she discharged a weapon nearly hitting Cole.

And I don't find any of Cole's recollections of his youth to be outlandish or far-fetched at all. Cold showers are a common "punishment" for kids with abusive parents, especially abusive mothers.

Yea excessively hot and cold showers are a favorite of abusive parents, it doesn't leave any marks but causes immense discomfort.
 
Cole's wild tale is that the attempted intruder was banging on the door, which was a steel door, and she shot the door, and the bullet ricocheted, nearly hitting Cole.
Wasn't there something about it striking the wall right next to his head and he later took a pencil and the hole was like 2 inches deep?

I don't buy that shit at all. I bet the bald fuck just wanted to play up the angle of his redneck parents and terrible upbringing to get sympathy.

Be that as it may, I'm still holding on to my hopes of a brother saga happening with Baldy being forced to go on a cross-US roadtrip with Chris in a much more autistic version of Rainman.
 
Controversial take but I think Cole has possibly fabricated exaggerated many stories that involve Barboh oh granted, I still think Barb was a horrendous mother, extremely selfish, mean spirited, insane, abusive and manipulative and all round terrible indidvidual who parasitically leeches and abuses anyone she can clamp down in a relationship and sucks them dry to be her slave and drain money from. But some of the stories like When Bob had a gun and accidentally fired it nearly killing him, and weird shit about ‘beatings and ‘cold showers’ all sound incredibly hazy and unlikely. Remember as we say here all the time and even after recent events, Cole himself is a pretty Unlikable indidvidual too, a pretentious Film critic and narcissistic and untalented douchbag with delusions of grandeur almost as big as his half brothers. I mean it’s for more respectable goals but his similar egotism towards his family although he’d never admit to it is uncanny.

Back to the point, even though There’s no doubt Barb and Bob were almost certainly shitty and abusive Parents to him, hence why he’s had almost no interaction or attempt to connect even after 20 years and this years recent horrible events. I can’t help but feel Cole, through a combination of ego and slight manipulation, has somewhat bullshitted a lot of the stories he tells about being raised by the two. I’m not saying his hatred for them is unjustified, but the lengths that he talks about them beating him and lying and manipulating him constantly were probably exaggerated to make him sympathetic towards the public and his online persona and make him look even more like a victim to fuel his already massive ego.

Like the gun story from the 60s I’m almost sure is bullshit, Bob may have been a ‘bureaucratic fuck’ In Cole’s words but I doubt the man was a gun toting Confederate Flag,bible thumping Red state Texas stereotype like he pictures him to be. He did work in a respectable position in a factory job, served in the Korean War and was even cultured in a way with his massive record collection and attempts to educate his awful younger son on his amazing adventures around the world. The whole gun scenario seems so far fetched and out of character for Bob, he wasn’t a good parent either, he enabled so many of Chris’s delusions and was overall a close minded individual who was probably pretty cruel to Cole throughout his upbringing, but as been said countless times he was absolutely a better parent and person than Barb was and I just can’t picture him ever doing something so reckless.

Ultimately, I completely understand Cole wanting nothing to do with Barb as she clearly did enough emotional damage that there relationship can’t ever be repaired, and to acknowledge his literal Motherfucker Half-Brother after this event after his years of being a lolcow will definitely enter the floodgates for weens and trolls like never before. I can’t help but feel he Is a little bit of a douche for giving her the cold shoulder after his only living connection and mother has literally just been raped by his deranged brother and mind and body are literally rotting away to die. He doesn’t have to love her, he can even loathe her, but doing the right thing and perhaps making sure she’s safe and will never be harmed again after all she’s been through just seems like the right thing to do, be the better man. She is still his mother after all. It’s just seems cruel really.
Some interjections from me:
- Several of the things such as beatings and cold showers aren't that out there especially considering how Borb never have had a good parenting track record
- Did Cole actually share these things publicly? I've only seen them mentioned in e-mails to Chris
- The gun incident was Barb (99.9% certain)
- Abused children who cut their parents off don't do so lightly and to many of them it's equivalent to viewing their parents as dead. And to someone who seems to have been through as much shit as Cole likely has, what you consider cruel might feel justified to them
 
I don't buy that shit at all. I bet the bald fuck just wanted to play up the angle of his redneck parents and terrible upbringing to get sympathy.
Imagine that.

Also how many people have steel doors?

Here's Cole's Colesplanation of that.

Then came the night when a burglar tried to break in when my dad was out cheating on my mom. We had a steel front door. You don’t see many of those around unless you live — as I do — in a pre-war building in a big city. Some dirtbag was making no bones about trying to break down our front door. Richmond was the rape capital of America at the time. The former capital of the Confederacy has always been a cesspool of violent crime, and still is. My mother Barbara left the living room for the adjacent bedroom where said pistol sat waiting. She returned with a fully loaded gun. I stood beside her about ten feet from the door where the would-be thief was still loudly at work trying to break down the front door. My mother pulled back the hammer, attempting to cock it. But she didn’t pull it back far enough for it to lock. BLAM! The gun fired. The bullet hit the floor, ricocheted onto the steel door, then onto the ceiling, before lodging in the plaster wall less than a foot to the left of my head. The would-be thief was scared off, so mission accomplished there, but I could easily have died. I remember sticking a pencil into the hole in order to measure how far the bullet had lodged after ricocheting so many times.

Umm. . .yeah. I'm so totally sure this shit actually happened.

Also note this asshole is demonizing his own mom for apparently trying to defend herself from a literal rapist.

No surprise he'd be okay with Chris raping her.

Hard to imagine being more cucked than being okay with your mom getting raped.
 
Also how many people have steel doors?

Even residential steel security doors are not a solid block of steel. They're generally hollow with thin steel plate around the outside. This is not armor-grade steel, most firearms would at least puncture one panel and then ricochet around inside the door, or pass clean through if it were a rifle. They're meant more to resist being kicked in or cut through with an axe. i.e. you can still cut through them and they deform, but they don't splinter and break like a wood door would.

An actual bulletproof steel door is extremely heavy and would not be tolerated in most houses. Nowadays you'd use composite aramid paneling unless you were in a bunker.

EDIT: i.e. if fired into a wall/door a ricochet is unlikely in a typical house. A ricochet off the floor or a sideways wall downrange is more plausible if it's at a very shallow angle. Either that or they were firing something insanely underpowered.
 
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Then came the night when a burglar tried to break in when my dad was out cheating on my mom.a
isn't it real interesting how both those things seemed to happen at the same time?
"here a story where i almost guy shot by my mom, oh and my dad was also cheating on my mom that very night."
i think Cole was lying to chris to try to get him to turn on his mom.
i don't doubt the cold shower thing and other abuses as well. but this story in particular starts to break down when you consider it.

edit: didn't Cole hire a private investigator and found out who his real father was?
did his wife pay for the P.I.
i wonder if Cole is his wifes beard or something?
maybe cole is just a super endearing guy when he's not being pretentious.
 
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Btw "Dad" in the gun story was not Bob but Jerry Harmon, an old boyfriend of Barb's. (IIRC Barb claimed they were married, but no record of them being married or divorced ever surfaced, so it's possible this was some kind of common law thing.) I get the vibe Barb was the type to bring various men in and out of Cole's life and each new boyfriend was his "new father."
 
Imagine that.

Also how many people have steel doors?

Here's Cole's Colesplanation of that.



Umm. . .yeah. I'm so totally sure this shit actually happened.

Also note this asshole is demonizing his own mom for apparently trying to defend herself from a literal rapist.

No surprise he'd be okay with Chris raping her.

Hard to imagine being more cucked than being okay with your mom getting raped.
Reading the whole thing just now, a couple things that stand out to me:

He mentions that Barb didn't pull back the hammer far enough to "lock", but afaik, that should mean that the gun goes into "half-cock" ie: a small piece of metal goes into a notch in the firing mechanism that not only prevents the hammer from hitting the primer, it also usually blocks the trigger mechanism, meaning you can't fire at all.

It is possible that she pulled the hammer back a tiny bit, slipped off before hitting the half-cock-notch and it slamming down hard enough to set off the primer, but it really doesn't take much to go half-cock and it does take some force to set off the primer. It's also possible that the gun simply didn't have a half-cock-notch but afaik, that's very unlikely, since it's a very cheap safety feature that has been in use for over a century at this point.

Then the bullet supposedly hits the ground, the steel door, the ceiling and then a wall. What the fuck kind of looney tunes bullet-proof bouncy castle were they living in that the bullet somehow ricochets off all that shit and then still gets stuck in the wall? No offense, but American houses aren't particularly well known for being super sturdy in general.

This seems like a heavily embellished, if not outright fabricated, story tbh. It's quite telling to me that he randomly drops the tidbit about it being the capital of the Confederacy or the detail about his then-father being out to cheat on his mom. I still believe that this is Baldy trying to fish for sympathy and to explain how awful his upbringing amongst those UGH REDNECKS was. Ain't he special for growing up like this and still ending up such a refined, cultivated and educated cosmopolitan?

I get the vibe Barb was the type to bring various men in and out of Cole's life and each new boyfriend was his "new father."
It really boggles the mind how a chick with such a strong dating game could ever be mistaken for a boyfriend-free girl aged 18-39.
 
Even residential steel security doors are not a solid block of steel. They're generally hollow with thin steel plate around the outside. This is not armor-grade steel, most firearms would at least puncture one panel and then ricochet around inside the door, or pass clean through if it were a rifle. They're meant more to resist being kicked in or cut through with an axe. i.e. you can still cut through them and they deform, but they don't splinter and break like a wood door would.

An actual bulletproof steel door is extremely heavy and would not be tolerated in most houses. Nowadays you'd use composite aramid paneling unless you were in a bunker.

EDIT: i.e. if fired into a wall/door a ricochet is unlikely in a typical house. A ricochet off the floor or a sideways wall downrange is more plausible if it's at a very shallow angle. Either that or they were firing something insanely underpowered.
what he is saying is that barb shot the gun accidentally at a 45* degree angle at the floor, from which it ricochet at 45 into the door and then 45 into the ceiling and then to the wall.
it's kinda far fetched. degrees could be others I suppose but it's supposed to hit the floor, the door and then the wall and I can't imagine the geometry with other than 45 and same distances, since it's supposed to come to near to the same place. if the floor angle is shallow it couldn't go up to the roof and back to the wall. also they'd need to be standing near the wall.
 
Since apparently people don't seemingly shoot firearms enough..

The bullet careening around is incredibly likely; and I have actually seen older apartments with full blown steel reinforced front doors. I don't know why the fuck, but they have. <Yes, it was in a shitty part of a big city, and the building was old as fuck.>

Barb likely fired a FMJ round, which is not designed to deform and spread out on impact, and if there's one thing you can learn in a hurry, is when FMJ hits solid objects at an angle, it will infact; ricochet. Now judging from what he is saying; the firearm was fairly powerful, and being an old building? I'd guess a brick ceiling existed. Again, not unusual. A .45 or .357 would probably do as he described.

I mean hell, firing a .22 at a frying pan will do the exact same shit, you'll hear it ricochet off and if you imagine it essentially hitting -another- frying pan, it'll definitely bounce off that again, and that isn't a caliber designed to kill some one.

The only thing I'm not sure about is the locking into place. I am -assuming- he means it's a revolver, and she likely was trying to cock it back, and discharged it accidentally. <You can just hold the trigger down on some revolvers to fire as you half assedly thumb the hammer after all>.

Or it was a poorly maintained semi automatic, she went to cock back the hammer, it slammed back down, and discharged. Suffice to say; I wouldn't trust Barb with a firearm either way.

Incidentally one of the worst things to own a modern self defense firearm is the one most people go for; a 12ga shotgun. The 00 shot doesn't tend to ricochet as it's meant to plow through brush, and the guy sleeping an apartment over gets bisected by it. I mention this just in passing in case some one is considering a firearm for home defense.

Also Cole did hire a P.I. IIRC, found out about the whole who my real father thing, and Barb when confronted about it; hung up on him. So I rather agree with the belief Barb just slept around and Cole basically had no true dependable father figure, and from what we know of Bob's other children, he likely did have issues with Cole.
 
I still don't believe it, and it's because this is Cole:
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Look at this faggot.
 
Since apparently people don't seemingly shoot firearms enough..

The bullet careening around is incredibly likely; and I have actually seen older apartments with full blown steel reinforced front doors. I don't know why the fuck, but they have. <Yes, it was in a shitty part of a big city, and the building was old as fuck.>

Barb likely fired a FMJ round, which is not designed to deform and spread out on impact, and if there's one thing you can learn in a hurry, is when FMJ hits solid objects at an angle, it will infact; ricochet. Now judging from what he is saying; the firearm was fairly powerful, and being an old building? I'd guess a brick ceiling existed. Again, not unusual. A .45 or .357 would probably do as he described.

I mean hell, firing a .22 at a frying pan will do the exact same shit, you'll hear it ricochet off and if you imagine it essentially hitting -another- frying pan, it'll definitely bounce off that again, and that isn't a caliber designed to kill some one.

The only thing I'm not sure about is the locking into place. I am -assuming- he means it's a revolver, and she likely was trying to cock it back, and discharged it accidentally. <You can just hold the trigger down on some revolvers to fire as you half assedly thumb the hammer after all>.

Or it was a poorly maintained semi automatic, she went to cock back the hammer, it slammed back down, and discharged. Suffice to say; I wouldn't trust Barb with a firearm either way.

Incidentally one of the worst things to own a modern self defense firearm is the one most people go for; a 12ga shotgun. The 00 shot doesn't tend to ricochet as it's meant to plow through brush, and the guy sleeping an apartment over gets bisected by it. I mention this just in passing in case some one is considering a firearm for home defense.

Also Cole did hire a P.I. IIRC, found out about the whole who my real father thing, and Barb when confronted about it; hung up on him. So I rather agree with the belief Barb just slept around and Cole basically had no true dependable father figure, and from what we know of Bob's other children, he likely did have issues with Cole.
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Cole could just remember stuff wrong too. Barb discharging a gun accidentally would be kind of a barb thing to do though...
 
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Cole could just remember stuff wrong too. Barb discharging a gun accidentally would be kind of a barb thing to do though...

lol is this what this thread has devolved into? Needing drawn testimony to prove Cole isn't a family hating monster? We can all agree Barb is an awful mother and person but outside of Chris' incest bullshit, she is also a victim in Cole not wanting to talk to her again?

I can't wait for the Aunt Harriet Trial Thread.
 
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