XenForo has revoked our license

[Dyn]

Look at it from the perspective of a retard, you know, like me. To do anything remotely possible in a programming language, because I am so fucking stupid, I'm going to be doing stackoverflow searches and begging for help. I really don't want to have to cope with troons and shit. I'd rather beg for help from relatively normal autists.

There's literally nothing wrong with asking for help from transgender people they have a lot of wisdom and lived experience to share with us.

 

[Pointless Sperg]

There's literally nothing wrong with asking for help from transgender people they have a lot of wisdom and lived experience to share with us.

I think he meant the victim-activist type, rather than people who just happen to be trans. I don't think the majority of trans people are like this, but the obnoxious ones are by far the most vocal (the same with the rest of the victim-identity crowd, with whatever victim class they claim).

 

[Dyn]

I think he meant the victim-activist type, rather than people who just happen to be trans.

There's literally nothing wrong with advocating for trans rights people should be proud and happy with who they are and not keep their head down trying to win the approval of bigots who hate them.

 

[Pointless Sperg]

There's literally nothing wrong with advocating for trans rights people should be proud and happy with who they are and not keep their head down trying to win the approval of bigots who hate them.

Careful, Vordrak might decide you're not so bad after all.

 

[Dyn]

Careful, Vordrak might decide you're not so bad after all.

Vordrak is an autistic conservative gamergater.

 

[Pointless Sperg]

Vordrak is an autistic conservative gamergater.

On the off chance that you're not trolling, by "keep their heads down" I meant having to keep their opinions to themselves to not piss off the activists in the team. i.e. they were more in danger of being deemed not being woke enough and punished for being insufficiently militant.

There's a difference between trying to end your status as a victim, and clinging to your victimhood as a virtue. It's not like conservatives can't do it too, extreme Stormfags who see conspiracies everywhere lean on white victimhood way too much.

Anyway this is getting really off topic.

 

[A Pile Of Fucking Ashes]

Fine, we'll make our own XenForo, with blackjacks and hookers!

 

[Philly Phunk Machine]

Honestly the more I learn about the programming world the more I think it is the most stressful subculture in existence. I bet Null is at the point where he could sit through a waterboarding session unscathed.

 

[Nobue]

There's literally nothing wrong with advocating for trans rights people should be proud and happy with who they are and not keep their head down trying to win the approval of bigots who hate them.

"Trans rights" is a bunch of little power games and coercing people into sexual relationships in the West. That's why people are against it. They'd be willing to live and let live if these types (and the institutions supporting them) just let them and their kids alone.

 

[Marvin]

You can't kill kiwis

In my dream world, the software meant to keep everything running would be open source so that people who also share this view can help shoulder the burden rather than leaving it for a handful of people. I can't imagine the difficulty of being the face of legal threats (most frivolous), criticism for the fact that you host a free speech forum, and deal with managing the back end.

Thing is, that's how software used to be. There used to be a dogmatically apolitical culture of collaboration and sharing in open source. People took Stallman's sperging as gospel and internalized it. Those people also happened to be super autistic themselves. Autism for these ideals held it all together.

Except then came gender nonsense (and other stupid woke politics). Gender nonsense sapped that autism, so it couldn't at least be used productively. Trannies are like termites.

Now software is falling apart and you've got dipshits writing software licenses that say you can't use the software if you're mean.

The only light at the end of the tunnel is that the legal system is still as autistic as software used to be, and so the remaining people who still believe in old open source values can still use the good licenses (AGPL would be most appropriate for web software), and won't have to worry about the project being hijacked.

Trannies that already control a project can destroy it, but if all they can do is fork it (which they can legally do), things will be fine. The flip side of trannies being termites is that they don't have the determination to take a good project, relicense it (as far as they legally can), and develop it extensively enough to displace the original project.

That's what it would take for trannies to take over a project with a good license: basically extend the original project far enough that all the new users go to their version instead of the original, and then lord over that new version as their terrible woke domain.

But they can't do that, because trannies cannot create, they can only destroy.

Example: the node.js COC salt. Some trannies and chasers got cranky that the project wouldn't boot a contributor for their off-project comments. So they ended up forking node.js calling it ayo.js. They had a gay old time sperging about the project's "values" and little time actually coding. The conclusion was that ayo.js has not seen any activity since end of year 2017.

Also for any non-programmers (read: neurotypical) people, if any of this piques your interest, there's a good thread on programming drama.

I'm surprised there's no Community Watch thread for Hacker News. That site should be listed as an example on the Dunning-Kruger Effect Wikipedia page. It is full of smug morons who believe themselves to be programming geniuses (and geniuses in everything else) yet can't pass any interview that asks them to actually code. Many of them have no sense of shame and post under their real name.

The one positive to Hacker News is that they still embody the Stallman autism better than most programming forums out there. At least that seems to be the case last time I was linked there.

RE: language choice, it really doesn't matter these days. If your tables are set up right and you're avoiding basic access mistakes, you can pretty much coast on efficiency thanks to index merging in modern dbms. The time it takes to pull the data out to process is always going to dwarf the time it takes to actually process, unless you're doing something really crazy with the data, or accessing at TON of data at once.

I'd care about the choice of language more for security and speed-of-development reasons than performance. Languages that can catch broader categories of mistakes help you avoid potentially critical fuckups earlier and easier. So like type checking.

For many classes of projects: mandatory type checking > optional type checking > no type checking.

 

[Dyn]

"Trans rights" is a bunch of little power games and coercing people into sexual relationships in the West. That's why people are against it. They'd be willing to live and let live if these types (and the institutions supporting them) just let them and their kids alone.

But people aren't against it, that's why your bigoted opinions are confined to an unmonetisable autism forum that just lost it's xenforo license while everybody else can go anywhere they like to celebrate and support rights and dignity for minority groups. I've got nothing against you chuds but sooner or later you have to accept that you're not living in the sewers knee-deep in shit out of choice.

The future isn't just female, it might also have a penis, and that's something to celebrate.

 

[Nobue]

But people aren't against it, that's why your bigoted opinions are confined to an unmonetisable autism forum that just lost it's xenforo license while everybody else can go anywhere they like to celebrate and support rights and dignity for minority groups. I've got nothing against you chuds but sooner or later you have to accept that you're not living in the sewers knee-deep in shit out of choice.

The future isn't just female, it might also have a penis, and that's something to celebrate.

You're deliberately conflating different things so that you can act like anyone who doesn't want to be bullied and abused can be lumped in with bigots, who the virtue-signallers will dogpile.

Say, why do all these movements need to introduce children to crossdressing and fetishism? Why are teachers admitting to "stalking" middle schoolers to get them to join LGBTQ clubs?

Remember how EVERYBODY supported movements like BLM and "destroying whiteness?" Look at how the commoners have been pushing back against that. The public isn't for being coerced into accepting abuse so they won't be called ists and phobes.

I keep hearing every type of bigotry is on the rise? Why do you think that is, assuming it's true?

 

[The Un-Clit]

You're deliberately conflating different things so that you can act like anyone who doesn't want to be bullied and abused can be lumped in with bigots, who the virtue-signallers will dogpile.

Say, why do all these movements need to introduce children to crossdressing and fetishism? Why are teachers admitting to "stalking" middle schoolers to get them to join LGBTQ clubs?

Remember how EVERYBODY supported movements like BLM and "destroying whiteness?" Look at how the commoners have been pushing back against that. The public isn't for being coerced into accepting abuse so they won't be called ists and phobes.

I keep hearing every type of bigotry is on the rise? Why do you think that is, assuming it's true?

watch out for that hook on a lure, fam....

 

[Dyn]

Say, why do all these movements need to introduce children to crossdressing and fetishism?

Gender dysphoria is a legitimate expression of identity and trans children need to be aware of it if they have a hope of living a healthy and happy life. The fact that you're calling it "fetishism" just shows how hateful and ignorant you truly are to people who weren't fortunate enough to be born white, male and cisgendered. Maybe if you could see past your own privilege you wouldn't feel the need to control minorities lives just so you can feel more comfortable around them.

But then again, maybe not.

 

[McSneaks]

Fair enough. Just because the development team is kinda pozzed doesn't mean that everyone who uses it is.

Current evidence disagrees

 

[DumbDude42]

Very interesting, why do companies always do this to their largest audiences?

in this case, a large customer doesn't pay any more for the license than any random small time customer does, so audience size is not a serious concern for them.

at the end of the day, the decision comes down to either revoking one single license (which does not impact their bottom line significantly) or getting harassed by vordrak and hordes of angry trannies forever.

and since there's no other recourse or defense against lowlife harassment campaigns like this, canceling the license is the rational decision on their part. sucks but that's reality in current year.

 

[milk]

how's "discourse"? I hear that's all the rage these days. Never deployed it myself though.

 

[100%black]

how's "discourse"? I hear that's all the rage these days. Never deployed it myself though.

Runs like shit, looks like shit, and is designed by mobilefags. Avoid.

 

[Some Curious Person]

Hey faggots Rust is the perfect language to write webservices in. Why? Well lets look at the landscape.

lmao. So much coping and sneeding in this post. Fueled by your borderline autistic (but somewhat understandable) hatred for web devs. Sorry gramps, whether you like it or not, in the last decade betting on Javascript always worked, and will continue to be the case for the foreseeable future.
You claim Python, JS, TS are all for dumbasses but that's because it's so popular and easy to use that it attracts a lot of low effort Pajeets who do the needful by copying from other Pajeets. Same case was true for PHP in its' height.

Spoiler: languages sperging

You want to use C/C++ for micro-optimize your memory? lol be my guest, but don't be suprised when there's no support. You talk about "fragile-ecosystem" in freaking javascript?? Try no ecosystem at all for web servers in C/CPP. Hope you like scrambling for "segmentation fault in line 757 " when you forget to use malloc, or wondering why there's tons of memory leaks when you forget to free memory on some obscure cases.

We're at a point where it is simply _NOT ACCEPTABLE_ to start a serious new web project in what is considered "normal" or "common" languages such as Python/JS

Python is used in YouTube and countless other huge platforms. There are plethora of ways and frameworks to optimize performance for these platforms (Fastapi, pypy). The same goes for any garbage collected language. Not that it really matters.
The time spent developing and fixing bugs in lower level langs is what's not acceptable. We're an internet forum which gets ddosd on the regular. Your micro optimizations amount to feels good and not much more in terms of actual user experience.

 

[Nobue]

Gender dysphoria is a legitimate expression of identity and trans children need to be aware of it if they have a hope of living a healthy and happy life. The fact that you're calling it "fetishism" just shows how hateful and ignorant you truly are to people who weren't fortunate enough to be born white, male and cisgendered. Maybe if you could see past your own privilege you wouldn't feel the need to control minorities lives just so you can feel more comfortable around them.

But then again, maybe not.

Oddly enough, most of those people with dysphoria can't just dress and act like women their age. Besides, even if that's not true, the very literal crossdressers at Drag Queen Story Time definitely are, just like the people wanting to teach very young children about a variety of fetishes-- all so they can get to them before the bigots who generally aren't teaching them about those things at 5-7.

Look at the shock over the suburbs bringing out the guns at the 2020 riots, or the pushback on CRT, and the stuff I mentioned. The FBI and local police will even show up to terrorize parents for being too critical of these things, and government and media will smear these people. Minorities are EGREGIOUSLY privileged in western countries.