UN WHO: ‘No Evidence’ Boosting Entire Population Offers Greater Protection to Healthy Individuals

A top World Health Organization (WHO) official said there is “no evidence” to suggest that CCP virus booster doses would offer “greater protection” to healthy people.

Dr. Mike Ryan, the WHO’s emergency director, questioned the logic of some countries trying to produce more booster doses to vaccinate anyone aged 18 and older.

“Right now, there is no evidence that I’m aware of that would suggest that boosting the entire population is going to necessarily provide any greater protection for otherwise healthy individuals against hospitalization and death,” Ryan said.

“The real risk of severe disease, hospitalization, and death lies, in particularly, in at-risk and vulnerable individuals,” he said, “who do require protection against all variants of COVID-19,” the illness caused by the Chinese Communist Party (CCP) virus. Health agencies around the world generally consider older individuals, those with compromised immune systems, and people who work in high-risk settings to be vulnerable.

The United Kingdom recently announced that it secured 114 million vaccine doses for 2022 and 2023. Those doses will be provided to everyone aged 18 and older by the end of January 2022.


On Monday, President Joe Biden called on Americans aged 18 and older to get a booster shot due to the emergence of the Omicron COVID-19 variant in southern Africa that has been detected in at least five U.S. states for far.

South African health officials said in interviews this week that those who have contracted the Omicron variant, named by the WHO last week, are presenting “extremely mild” symptoms. There have been no deaths associated with the COVID-19 strain, which officials described as heavily mutated, and WHO officials cautioned is not enough data so far to determine whether it can cause more severe disease or breach the protection afforded by natural immunity or vaccination.

In some countries, it’s required to get a booster dose six months after the initial vaccination regimen in order to be considered “fully vaccinated.” Already, officials in the United States, including the governors of New Mexico and Connecticut, are claiming that one cannot be considered fully vaccinated unless they’ve obtained a booster dose.

Earlier this year, Israel attached receiving the booster dose as a condition to using that country’s “green pass” COVID-19 vaccine passport to enter certain businesses. Meanwhile, pharmaceutical giant Pfizer told BBC that vaccine boosters will be likely needed every year from now on.

Ryan’s comments come as other WHO officials criticized the United States, European countries, Israel, and others for imposing travel bans on southern African nations due to the Omicron variant. Previously, WHO’s leader, Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus, urged wealthier countries to provide initial vaccine doses to poorer nations, rather than focusing on giving booster doses to their own population.

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[Open Window Maniac]

I can't believe those bigoted, anti-vaxx chuds at WHO are allowed to spread such deadly misinformation. Don't they know to trust the Science?

 

[Billy Beer]

WHO would-a-thunk-it?

 

[Male Idiot]

So the vaccine is useless the moment it stops niggers from coming in.

Either way you think it is Liquid Jesus or Satan Mark this is hilarious.

 

[Super-Chevy454]

I guess he won't be long before that WHO officer will have an "accident" or "suicide".

 

[Kermit Jizz]

"Breaking News: WHO makes a realization anyone looking at the data figured out a year ago"

 

[David Brown]

>Ryan’s comments come as other WHO officials criticized the United States, European countries, Israel, and others for imposing travel bans on southern African nations due to the Omicron variant. Previously, WHO’s leader, Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus, urged wealthier countries to provide initial vaccine doses to poorer nations, rather than focusing on giving booster doses to their own population.
*smacks lips* GIBSMEDAT

 

[CreamyHerman’s]

Thoughts @Hollywood Hulk Hogan?

 

[Male Idiot]

>Ryan’s comments come as other WHO officials criticized the United States, European countries, Israel, and others for imposing travel bans on southern African nations due to the Omicron variant. Previously, WHO’s leader, Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus, urged wealthier countries to provide initial vaccine doses to poorer nations, rather than focusing on giving booster doses to their own population.
*smacks lips* GIBSMEDAT

Not even the Great Removal or the Global Plague can stop niggers from nigging. Amazing, really. Savages to the end.

 

[ShortBusDriver]

They're denying the Science™ and by extension the divinity of Fauci himself.

 

[naaaaiiiiillllll!!!]

Mild tin-foil thought: they keep using phrases like "otherwise healthy individuals" in these kinds of statements and articles. How exactly are we determining what a "healthy" individual is or adding a number/scale to "how" healthy one is? Last year, we would use phrases like "immunocompromised", which to most people sounds like organ transplant patients (who take immunosuppressants), or HIV/AIDS sufferers. HOWEVER, that can technically be expanded to people taking allergy medication (which is a mild immunosuppressant), which is a huge chunk of the population. They also roped in people under cardiovascular "stress" (obesity, old age, diabetes, high cholesterol/BP, etc) in a kind of: (unhealthy -> poor immune system -> unhealthy person) oversimplification. Ultimately, we started ignoring the immune system part for non-immunocompromised people and just went: (any health condition -> unhealthy) simplification.

The WHO can cover their asses and not get van'd by defining everybody as NOT an "otherwise healthy individual". So I'm afraid this article is less of a big deal than we'd hope for.

 

[Legato]

Thoughts @Hollywood Hulk Hogan?

I wish people would stop doing this.

sad.

 

[Not Really Here]

Thoughts @Hollywood Hulk Hogan?

I wish people would stop doing this.

sad.

I'll do it for him, something something paper run by a cult, something something one guy at the WHO, something something [more crapping on sources as if that was rational], something something Qtards something fat conman something something, just get the fast tracked Trump juice injected into your body.

There all fixed.

Edit: Told you so.

 

[Super-Chevy454]

They're denying the Science™ and by extension the divinity of Fauci himself.

I think they'll abandon the S.S. Fauci before it hit the iceberg ahead.

 

[Hollywood Hulk Hogan]

Thoughts @Hollywood Hulk Hogan?

epochtimes is a far-right publication that is for anti-vax nutjobs, so take anything they say with a grain of salt. I ain't got time to read the actual press conference, but I suspect it's because the boosters are still very new, for the most part, so there is no data in general and the epoch times, trying to con anti-vax tards, will misinterpret things as usual

 

[Quindoll]

More than the single passages quoted:
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CL Thank you very much, both. Next question goes to Tom Clarke, from Sky News. Tom, please go ahead.

TC Hello. Can you hear me?

CL Yes, go ahead.

TC Thanks for taking my question. Firstly, what would be your opinion of the UK government’s decision to offer third doses of vaccine, millions of them to people who are under the age of 14, not particularly vulnerable to severe COVID, given you spoke earlier of solidarity and vaccine equity? Secondly, perhaps for Dr Kerkhove, is there a disincentive, are you concerned now for scientists in other countries to step forward to be open about the new variants they might be seeing in their surveillance data, given the reaction to South Africa and Botswana and other African states?

CL Let me look around the room. Where should we start? Dr Ryan, please.

MR I think this question was related to the UK and vaccine boosters. It is tough for some countries who have huge amounts of excess vaccine to decide who to give it to but that is not the problem being faced by a lot of countries around the world who can’t get even primary vaccine to their must vulnerable. So, it’s a luxurious position to be in, if you’re in a position to be able to have enough vaccine to do that.

The situation, right now, and again I think Dr Soumya said it earlier, the primary objective, I think, of all governments now must be, in the face of Delta and Omicron and others, to ensure that all vulnerable individuals, older age people with underlying conditions are immediately offered a vaccine to ensure that everyone has had at least a primary course of vaccine.

There are others here who can better answer than me regarding the benefits of a booster regarding other variants but, right now, there is no evidence that I’m aware of that would suggest that boosting the entire population is going to necessarily provide any greater protection for otherwise healthy individuals against hospitalisation or death. The real risk of severe disease, hospitalisation and death lies in particularly at risk and vulnerable individuals who do require protection against all variants of COVID-19. Soumya, you may have a point on this.

SS Thanks, Mike. I just want to reiterate what was just said, that our goal should be really to protect those who have not yet received their primary course of vaccination and this is true in all countries. There are all countries that still have vulnerable populations that have not been vaccinated for one reason or another.

Of course, there a large number of low income countries where it hasn’t happened because they haven’t had the supplies, but there are also high income countries that have still not achieved coverage above 60% or 65%, and so there is still a lot of work to be done on primary vaccination of adult populations, particularly the vulnerable groups.

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Some countries are, as a precautionary principle, providing additional doses to people, because they have adequate supplies and they are just doing it. There isn’t a whole lot of evidence that everybody over the age of 18 or, for that matter, above any age is going to benefit from this.

So, what we really need is the data to come in from many countries using different vaccines, different demographics, different populations and coverage and also different variants at different times during the year to have a comprehensive view on when boosters are going to be needed, which subgroups of people they’re going to be most useful in and which vaccines should, indeed, be used.

So, there is a lot of research going on. SAGE is looking at the data. They will be meeting in the first week of December to look at all the evidence, to review it and then to make recommendations to the DG, and then to member states on how each country should look within their own context at their own population to decide on additional doses. But, at this point, again, the plea is to vaccinate the unvaccinated first.
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epochtimes is a far-right publication that is for anti-vax nutjobs, so take anything they say with a grain of salt. I ain't got time to read the actual press conference, but I suspect it's because the boosters are still very new, for the most part, so there is no data in general and the epoch times, trying to con anti-vax tards, will misinterpret things as usual

The context is a question from a reporter about the decision to give third shoots to the non vulnerable. 15 year olds. They are arguing about a more international state of things, which kind of makes sense as they are an international organization. Why give third shoots to people that are not really vulnerable, while vulnerable people in other countries did not get a single shot at all.

The quotes are kind of bait.

And the people asked are still for the vaccines. And they even, I quote again saying this: "So, what we really need is the data to come in from many countries using different vaccines, different demographics, different populations and coverage and also different variants at different times during the year to have a comprehensive view on when boosters are going to be needed".

So yes. Do the Boosters. See what the evidence is showing, Give us data so we can work out general guidelines.

People really need to stop reading the headlines alone. This isn't a WHO gatcha! moment.

 

[Hollywood Hulk Hogan]

@Quindoll (wont let me quote)

The context is a question from a reporter about the decision to give third shoots to the non vulnerable. 15 year olds. They are arguing about a more international state of things, which kind of makes sense as they are an international organization. Why give third shoots to people that are not really vulnerable, while vulnerable people in other countries did not get a single shot at all.

The quotes are kind of bait.

And the people asked are still for the vaccines. And they even, I quote again saying this: "So, what we really need is the data to come in from many countries using different vaccines, different demographics, different populations and coverage and also different variants at different times during the year to have a comprehensive view on when boosters are going to be needed".

So yes. Do the Boosters. See what the evidence is showing, Give us data so we can work out general guidelines.

People really need to stop reading the headlines alone. This isn't a WHO gatcha! moment.

Yeah, it's Epochtimes. Might as well be linking to DailyKOS or Breitbart

 

[Tasty Tatty]

@Quindoll (wont let me quote)


Yeah, it's Epochtimes. Might as well be linking to DailyKOS or Breitbart

It doesn't matter who said it. Booster shoots for this type of vaccine are useless and ridiculous.

I think they'll abandon the S.S. Fauci before it hit the iceberg ahead.

The best part is that he's probably very sure that the power and influence he holds now will last forever and his current "friends" and defenders will be there until the very end. It's gonna be great to see him realise he's all alone.

 

[Hollywood Hulk Hogan]

It doesn't matter who said it. Booster shoots for this type of vaccine are useless and ridiculous.

Except that's not what was said. Plus, no evidence exists yet because boosters are new.

 

[Useful_Mistake]

epochtimes is a far-right publication that is for anti-vax nutjobs, so take anything they say with a grain of salt. I ain't got time to read the actual press conference, but I suspect it's because the boosters are still very new, for the most part, so there is no data in general and the epoch times, trying to con anti-vax tards, will misinterpret things as usual

"They provide no proof for the quote and the proof that they provided, the press conference, I won't read, therefore no proof"

@Quindoll

And the people asked are still for the vaccines

So yes. Do the Boosters. See what the evidence is showing, Give us data so we can work out general guidelines.

People really need to stop reading the headlines alone. This isn't a WHO gatcha! moment.

You have a very interesting way of critique. You take what the article didn't claim (that who hates vaccines or booster shots) and then fault the article for saying things it didn't say.

The article said:
1. " “Right now, there is no evidence that I’m aware of that would suggest that boosting the entire population is going to necessarily provide any greater protection for otherwise healthy individuals against hospitalization and death,” Ryan said. “The real risk of severe disease, hospitalization, and death lies, in particularly, in at-risk and vulnerable individuals,” he said, “who do require protection against all variants of COVID-19,” "
2. General info about Countries' vaccine policies, info you don't contest.

You act as if while saying 1 they left out some major context even when your pointed out context is the same as the article showed.

The context is a question from a reporter about the decision to give third shoots to the non vulnerable. 15 year olds.

Your own citation says under 14.

Anyway, the context is that a WHO doctor was asked about his opinion on offering vaccine to people "not particularly vulnerable to severe COVID" . His answer was not misrepresented or placed in a different light.

So yes. Do the Boosters. See what the evidence is showing, Give us data so we can work out general guidelines.

That's not what it said though. It said they need more data on vaccines in general to see if it could theoretically work. Then they said that "So, there is a lot of research going on. SAGE is looking at the data. They will be meeting in the first week of December to look at all the evidence, to review it and then to make recommendations to the DG, and then to member states on how each country should look within their own context at their own population to decide on additional doses. But, at this point, again, the plea is to vaccinate the unvaccinated first." they continue to recommend vaccinating the unvaxxed first, and that they will continue to talk and review the data on boosters, which as of now "There isn’t a whole lot of evidence that everybody over the age of 18 or, for that matter, above any age is going to benefit from this". The same applied to when he answered for below 14 year olds.

People really need to stop reading the headlines alone. This isn't a WHO gatcha! moment.

This is WHO being consistent with their earlier claims (months ago) that there is still no evidence they offer greater to healthy individuals or individuals in general

You sound a bit dishonest in your review.

Except that's not what was said.

It kinda was in a way. There is no evidence it helps can be seen as "useless".

Plus, no evidence exists yet because boosters are new.

Ah, the good ol' "not enough evidence to counter criticism or fault, but enough to mandate it to everyone against the advice of scientists at organisations we are to trust"

Also, "COVID-19 booster shots are the same formulation as the current COVID-19 vaccine" so to say that we have no evidence when we have been using them for quite a while now (most double vaxxed in major countries) is absurd.