US Joe Biden News Megathread - The Other Biden Derangement Syndrome Thread (with a side order of Fauci Derangement Syndrome)

Let's pretend for one moment that he does die before the election, just for the funsies. What happens then? Will the nomination revert to option number 2, aka Bernie Sanders? Or will his running mate automatically replace him just the way Vice-President is supposted to step in after the Big Man in the White House chokes on a piece of matzo? Does he even have a running mate yet?

 

[b0x]

That's why I don't want Trump to run again for president I much rather have Ron DeSantis run

The problem with that theory is that people believe somehow the media/government apparatus won't just be used in the same way against DeSantis as they did with Trump. In fact they've already started if you hang around those circles.

The Disgusting Reality Behind Ron DeSantis’ New ‘Army’

The Florida governor has no plans to protect anyone with his proposed state military. The real goal is much darker.

www.thedailybeast.com

 

[whatever I feel like]

I don't know why this fucking forum isn't letting me quote you directly but...

stimulus checks

Shouldn't have been anything at all. Trump fucked it up even further going publicly for 2000 after 1200 was already successfully negotiated.

claiming fraud and telling voters what they want

Georgia just got done not voting for Trump. The correct line to take was that Dems won the White House and needed to be countered in the senate by voting for Perdue and Loeffler. Giving people a potential that Trump could still win, via overturning the votes that were cast by the anti-Trump suburbanites you now want to flip back to you, was a terrible message. It, combined with other Trump shenanigans, caused the R candidates' vote shares to actually decline even though there no longer were third party candidates in to split the votes.

my Florida comments are inaccurate

No, they are accurate. Florida counts votes faster than most other states, if the race ends up extremely tight then we have to wait for every vote in Broward and Miami but it hasn't been in the last few cycles. As to Republicans being the "majority", thats correct, they only have a "plurality" as they lead both Democrats and independents. My assumption is that you are basing that off of this article in which case that looks extremely like a swing state to me. Party registrations even with less than a tenth of a percent difference between the two. It bodes well for Republicans, given the historic Democratic edge (part of which is due to Dixiecrats slowly going away but a lot due to the Florida GOP being a well run apparatus.) It bodes well for them, yes, but that doesn't mean Florida isn't a swing state anymore. This is no different than the Democratic hubris about my state, Pennsylvania, which then came back to bite them in 2016. And, PA again, you could point to the Democrats' increased voter registration edge from 04 to 06 to 08 and then compare it to their results in 2010 and 2016. State parties want to increase registration because it makes it easier for them to gotv and put money into increasing party registration for that reason, but it doesn't mean they are going to win or lose state elections. Increased party ID means that Florida has a good state GOP and bad state DNC, but either of us could have said that already. You can say you're doing well, say you're on track to win, but don't fuck yourself over by saying you have something in the bag if you actually don't.

other "Atlantic South" states

The whole region, outside of Florida, is clearly trending Democratic. Virginia used to be safely Republican-now it leans towards Democrats due to out of state migration. NC is a swing state that gave Obama two wins, voted Trump by less than 10k votes last time, voted out a sitting governor because of muh tranny rights, etc. Georgia is competitive but leans GOP. SC is Republican but not in the same way it was a decade ago. The problem is migration from the north and suburban voters shifting towards Democrats. There's even some movement like this up in J-ville, its just that other parts of Florida are going another direction. Republicans are doing better up north and are actually improving their already great margins in the "inland south" (think LA up to KY). The rust belt is also improving for Republicans, thats why WI and NC are the two states I think would flip in a Biden/Trump rematch.

mail-in voting

I despise mail-in voting. If I had my way it would be banned except for people who live out of state and they would have to post mark their ballots on, not before, election day. But that has nothing to do with fraud. I don't know the ins and outs of it in FL but there has been no credible proof of organized fraud anywhere in the country. The idea that it would ONLY happen in the states where Biden barely won and JUST by enough to get him those wins is ridiculous. Especially since Biden's county versus county margins are exactly in line with where people though they would be -with the exception of Miami-Dade and south Texas where he actually underperformed.

HR1

HR1 exists because Democrats want to mandate redistricting occur in the way they want and for mail-in ballots to be mandatory because they think it will increase turnout among their lazy and non-civicly minded voting base. I despise it and think its unconstitutional but as to causing fraud? Lol no.

wishcasting

I voted for Trump last time around. Don't plan on voting for Biden next time around, if I were to it would be as a "less bad" option. If I were to get my wishes it would be for an anti-China Republican not named Trump to crush senile Joe in a landslide. As said above, the reason I think only those two states would flip is because the two states are moving in opposite directions. So don't call it wishcasting because of the two I predicted, Biden and Trump, neither would be a good candidate.

Trump has strong campaign planks- opposition to illegal immigration, opposition to free trade and opposition to foreign interventions and is good at communicating his views in speeches. He might not be a genius but he was damn near one when deciding his 2016 campaign themes. But he is full of personality defects, with his fake tan, his multiple divorces, his egomania, his inability to keep a consistent cabinet and staff (because of said defects but also because he was terrible at picking personnel) etc. If he had the same policy positions and was a good public speaker but wasn't a cretin he would have won 2020 by 300+ EVs.

Biden is a terrible public speaker who continuously talks down to the audience like they are children or dense, whenever I am forced to listen to him I end up muttering, "no that is bullshit, no that is wrong". He also hands out positions based on people's race and gender rather than on who would be the best candidate in a way that disgusts me. He is lucky he was up against Trump in 2020, I don't think he would have been able to beat generic R. His positives are... incumbency advantage, the media carries water for him, he has excellent relations with the Democratic party apparatus and he isn't Trump.

I take my vote very seriously, don't know which, if either, of the two I'd vote for if they both run in 2024. I would need to see what the situation on the ground and in the campaigns is.

 

[Terrifik]

https://twitter.com/DineshDSouza/status/1468041492233138181

 

[Salubrious]

The problem with that theory is that people believe somehow the media/government apparatus won't just be used in the same way against DeSantis as they did with Trump. In fact they've already started if you hang around those circles.
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The Disgusting Reality Behind Ron DeSantis’ New ‘Army’

The Florida governor has no plans to protect anyone with his proposed state military. The real goal is much darker.

www.thedailybeast.com

I don't know how much this topic has been discussed, but even CNN acknowledged that Florida would be the 23rd state to have it's own civilian national guard.

By the way, the 22 states that have it include CALIFORNIA and NEW YORK.

That's how BADLY they want to spin a narrative. I didn't even need to do any research, they put it right in the CNN article.

States have the power to create defense forces separate from the national guard, though not all of them use it. If Florida moves ahead with DeSantis' plan to reestablish the civilian force, it would become the 23rd active state guard in the country, DeSantis' office said in a press release, joining California, Texas and New York. These guards are little-known auxiliary forces with origins dating back to the advent of state militias in the 18th century. While states and the Department of Defense share control of the National Guard, state guards are solely in the power of a governor.

DeSantis proposes a new civilian military force in Florida that he wo…

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[Gehenna]

I don't know how much this topic has been discussed, but even CNN acknowledged that Florida would be the 23rd state to have it's own civilian national guard.

By the way, the 22 states that have it include CALIFORNIA and NEW YORK.

That's how BADLY they want to spin a narrative. I didn't even need to do any research, they put it right in the CNN article.

States have the power to create defense forces separate from the national guard, though not all of them use it. If Florida moves ahead with DeSantis' plan to reestablish the civilian force, it would become the 23rd active state guard in the country, DeSantis' office said in a press release, joining California, Texas and New York. These guards are little-known auxiliary forces with origins dating back to the advent of state militias in the 18th century. While states and the Department of Defense share control of the National Guard, state guards are solely in the power of a governor.

DeSantis proposes a new civilian military force in Florida that he wo…

archived 4 Dec 2021 02:04:01 UTC

archive.md

Right now, largely just posturing. If you start seeing red states giving incentives to National Guard troops to switch over when their term ends, you should start feeling some concern.

 

[Blake Chortles]

Right now, largely just posturing. If you start seeing red states giving incentives to National Guard troops to switch over when their term ends, you should start feeling some concern.

Yea for the time being its a disaster relief force that doesn’t require fucking around with the feds to get resources/permission, at least according to an NG buddy who helped set this up. Budgeted and equipped for 200 rifleholders.

But its a seed that can be expanded.

 

[Gehenna]

Yea for the time being its a disaster relief force that doesn’t require fucking around with the feds to get resources/permission, at least according to an NG buddy who helped set this up. Budgeted and equipped for 200 rifleholders.

But its a seed that can be expanded.

Exactly. It is a way around the federal government fucking with funding to get its way, and I would not be surprised to find out that the feds have been threatening to withhold help to try to force DeSantis' hands on the mandate issues, while also being something of an implicit threat.

 

[Catch The Rainbow]

You are the one who is blind. Votes came in exactly as people thought they would, with Democrats/Dem. leaners voting by mail because their party told them to and Republicans voting in person for the same reason. There was exactly nothing indicative of fraud in the results. The only state where ANYTHING questionable happened was PA and that was having the vote held in a way that contradicted the state constitution, not having fake or non-existent ballots counted.

Trump keeping the focus on himself and his non-existent chances of overturning the vote made those suburban voters vote for the Democratic candidates again in January when a "100 percent sure" Biden win would have had those voters go back to their general opposition to the Democrats. Perdue was only a hair's breath away from outright victory in November, Trump's shenanigans are what cost him in January. Perdue's decline in the vote share mirrored Trump's own post-election polling declines as he entered crazy mode and started publicly throwing around the option of not endorsing the two R candidates or telling people to stay home. He sabotaged the conservative candidates in a fit because nobody was going along with his election theft plot.

>Only state where anything questionable happened is PA
>Voting machines in AZ were caught having illegal dual boot setups with the other drive having alternative sets of voting numbers. Certain records were manually deleted as well
>Burst pipe in GA that doesn't even have any work order attached to fixing it plus CCTV footage of election workers pulling out boxes of votes from under the table
>4am vote drop in Wisconsin when votes were supposed to be submitted at 12 am


The only reason you even consider PA questionable is because they were too brazen in the legislature, you didn't even mention how they kicked Republican observers out in Philly.

 

[Oats12345]

The Twitter account is nuked by the new boss. Yeah, it begins. Anyone have a full archive of the account’s posts?

Wait I was following that twitter account. Was it really nuked. Fuck you faggot boss!!!!!

"Trump sought out defeat by talking about fraud" - it was absolutely crucial to discuss fraud because it obviously happened

""willing to bet that your candidates "who people can get behind for once" are all extremists of the type that the general public is least likely to actually get behind"" -- this is a long topic that could be discussed separately, but there are definitely areas where anti-establishment populist candidates outperform your precious establishment candidates (see: Trump outperforming McConnell in 2020). There are areas where the establishment types do better (upper middle class suburbs; like in GA where Perdue outperformed Trump) but that does not mean the right move was to lie and say there was no significant fraud.

Georgia right wing voters could see there was obvious fraud regardless of what Trump said. If Trump lied and said that Biden won fair and square, they still would not have turned out to vote because there wasn't any strong motivation to do so (note that the GA rurals actually had pretty solid turnout for a runoff election in January! It's just that the blue areas were able to 'turn out' more, thanks to non-secure election measures that Trump wanted to address). People like you are so oblivious to think that voters believe in the existence of significant 2020 fraud because Trump said so, rather than the fact that they could notice the glaring red flags on their own. They aren't nearly as blind as you are.

I didn't need Trump to know fraud occurred. I could tell by how Trump was leading in certain states and than all sudden all these mail-in votes came in all 100% not 50 or 60% for Biden!!!! Like how dumb do you think I am.

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Good for Trump

 

[pwnest injun]

I don't know why this fucking forum isn't letting me quote you directly but...

Maybe it's because the site knows you should stop posting?

 

[Ruin]

I hope Trump realizes his new media site needs the Nation Justice third position types like Striker as well as the panty wearing catboy animeright types from Twitter to survive. If it's a censorship happy hugbox exclusively full of boomers that just slobber over Isreal it will fail just like Gab.

He should appoint Gossar as ambassador of anime. If he can get the good right leaning shitposters like I Hypocrite, Wyatt, and Battle Beagle to jump ship he'll be in good shape.

 

[CrippleThreat]

I think we might have some idea about Biden's real electoral flooring:

I&I/TIPP Poll Stunner: Just 22% Of Americans Want Joe Biden To Run For President Again​

Just when it seemed President Joe Biden could get no lower in the public's political esteem, a new I&I/TIPP Poll of Americans' preference for the 2024 Democratic presidential ballot is a shocker: Just over one out of five want Joe Biden back at the top of the Democrats' ticket in three years.

A number of recent I&I/TIPP Polls (here and here) have documented Biden's sharp decline in favorability with the public due to a number of issues, ranging from his leadership of the military, the botched Afghanistan withdrawal, the recent inflation surge and supply-chain crisis, the border crisis, and a number of other vexing White House issues.

Even so, no favorite has emerged among the large field of potential challengers to run against Biden in the 2024 primaries. The I&I/TIPP Poll gave respondents the names of 16 other possible candidates, asking "Who do you want to see run for president on the Democratic ticket in 2024?"

As mentioned, Biden was named by just 22% of those asked, while 12% mentioned Vice President Kamala Harris, whose abrasive style, lack of preparation, and revolving-door personnel changes have drawn criticism even from formerly friendly Democrats and the left-leaning media.

None of the rest rose above low single-digits: Transportation Secretary Pete Buttigieg garnered 4%, while New York Rep. Andrea Ocasio-Cortez, Massachusetts Sen. Elizabeth Warren, Massachusetts Rep. Joe Kennedy, and Georgia 2018 gubernatorial candidate Stacey Abrams each attracted 3% of the support.

New Jersey Sen. Corey Booker, Minnesota Sen. Amy Klobuchar, California Gov. Gavin Newsom, and Colorado Sen. Michael Bennet all got thumbs up from 2%.

Among those failing to breach even the 1% support barrier included Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer, Washington Gov. Jay Inslee, New Mexico Gov. Michelle Lujan Grisham, and Illinois Gov. J.B. Pritzker.

Meanwhile, 6% of all those who answered preferred someone "other" than those on the list, while a whopping 31% said they were "unsure," a likely sign that for many it's still too early to form strong opinions about 2024.

The data come from the December I&I/TIPP Poll of 1,013 registered voters. The poll was conducted online from Dec. 1-4 by TechnoMetrica Market Intelligence, I&I’s polling partner. The poll has a margin of error of +/-3.2 percentage points. As is often the case, a look at the demographic breakdown shows some interesting trends.

It's no shock, of course, that just 8% of Republicans preferred Biden to be the Democrats' candidate. That's to be expected, especially given the sharp political divisions now apparent across the spectrum.

But only 8% of independents and other non-major party voters also want Biden back as Democratic standard-bearer. And 10% want Harris, not Biden. For Biden, that suggests near non-existent support among independents, the swing voters who make up a third or more of all those who go to the polls each election.

Even Democrats seem less than enthused about Biden holding the top spot. Just 37% want him there. And only 16% give Harris the nod as presidential standard-bearer, alarming given that Vice President Harris is next in line to be president should Biden not complete his term in office.

With no one else getting even more than low single-digit support, the 2024 presidential election is shaping up to be a wild one for the Democrats – at least at this early point in the game. Much will depend, of course, on the perceived success of Biden's policies over the next two years.

As for right now, Biden's support by gender might surprise some. Men and women are split, with 27% of men saying they want Biden to lead the Democratic ticket in 2024 (higher than Biden's overall support of 22%), versus just 16% of women.

Nor does Biden do much better in a breakdown by race.

Just 20% of Whites say they want him to run, while a slightly-larger 26% of Black and Hispanic respondents agreed. Minority voters, the backbone of Democratic Party support, show little enthusiasm for Biden and only 17% say they want Harris in the job.

Among other things, the data suggest that at just under 11 months into his term as president, Biden's political support, never strong to begin with, is collapsing.

The RealClearPolitics average of all polls shows President Biden's approval rating at 42.3% and his disapproval rating at 52.2%.

Another data set, this an average of favorability polls, shows that as recently as early March Biden's unfavorability among voters averaged about 36%. Today, it's close to 52%, and rising.

Because of Biden's health issues and declining popularity, some already speculate that Biden won't get a second term, and that two of his administration's top officials — Harris and Buttigieg — have already begun butting heads to become his anointed successor.

"The worst kept secret in Washington, DC is that Joe Biden is a one-term president — whether he knows it or not," wrote Stephen L. Miller in the American Spectator three weeks ago.

Meanwhile, Democratic pollster Brian Stryker recently issued a stark warning to Democrats about next year's midterm elections and beyond: "We’ve got a national branding problem that is probably deeper than a lot of people suspect. Our party thinks maybe some things we’re saying aren’t cutting through, but I think it’s much deeper than that."

In the coming weeks and months, I&I/TIPP will continue to provide timely and informative data from our monthly polls on this topic and on others of interest, including a look at former President Trump's prospects for the 2024 elections. TIPP has distinguished itself by being the most accurate pollster for the past five presidential elections.

 

[The Nothingness]

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And it has a new CEO.

Representative Devin Nunes (R-Calif.) is resigning from Congress this month after serving since 2003.

The congressman will take over as CEO of Trump Media & Technology Group (TMTG) in January 2022, according to a press release from the start-up.

Former President Donald Trump welcomed Nunes to his company, saying, "Congressman Devin Nunes is a fighter and a leader. He will make an excellent CEO of TMTG. Devin understands that we must stop the liberal media and Big Tech from destroying the freedoms that make America great. America is ready for TRUTH Social and the end to censorship and political discrimination."

Nunes said, "The time has come to reopen the Internet and allow for the free flow of ideas and expression without censorship. The United States of America made the dream of the Internet a reality and it will be an American company that restores the dream. I'm humbled and honored President Trump has asked me to lead the mission and the world class team that will deliver on this promise."

The former chair of the House Intelligence Committee remains close to former President Donald Trump, who awarded him the Presidential Medal of Freedom in January 2021.

A source told Fox News Nunes "got a job offer that he can’t refuse."

TMTG raised more than $1 billion from investors in December. The group will launch a social media app TRUTH Social by February 2022. The start-up plans to eventually feature an online television network available via subscription.

Nunes would have been up for reelection in 2022. California redistricting would have made campaigning significantly more difficult. Cook Political Report editor Dave Wasserman said Nunes' new district would flip from voting for Trump by 5% to voting for Biden by 9%.

https://justthenews.com/government/congress/rep-devin-nunes-resign-congress-month

 

[Gehenna]

And it has a new CEO.

https://justthenews.com/government/congress/rep-devin-nunes-resign-congress-month

More of this, please Republicans.

Not the Trump part, but the ensuring that skilled politicians don't get wasted. The GOP has a frustrating history of letting its skilled members go free when they get redistricted out or lose a swing election.

 

[Mr Cuddles]

@whatever I feel like: You just come over as someone who disliked Trump and is glad that the Republican Party can head in a different direction. A bit like Dan Crenshaw. The 2020 election was anomalous if not fraudulent. Bidens county by county performance did not match his results and counties like Kenosha swung for Trump, not Biden. His bumper margins came from urban/surburban centers which delayed their counting. Stop being disingenuous!

 

[Oats12345]

More of this, please Republicans.

Not the Trump part, but the ensuring that skilled politicians don't get wasted. The GOP has a frustrating history of letting its skilled members go free when they get redistricted out or lose a swing election.

I agree there's alot of Republican politicians who are great who end up getting redistricted or lose a swing seat. Who we never see again. This is perfect since Nunes will basically still be around heading Trump's social media site.

 

[XYZpdq]

The problem with that theory is that people believe somehow the media/government apparatus won't just be used in the same way against DeSantis as they did with Trump. In fact they've already started if you hang around those circles.
View attachment 2780624

The Disgusting Reality Behind Ron DeSantis’ New ‘Army’

The Florida governor has no plans to protect anyone with his proposed state military. The real goal is much darker.

www.thedailybeast.com

Oh yeah they've been butthurt about Desantis basically every since Florida didn't die from coof.
Also when he shitcanned the election fraud.
I recall 60 Minutes basically trying to go full Rock Bottom and creatively editing him responding at length their pitiful mewling to just be him walking away or some shit

 

[Salubrious]

More of this, please Republicans.

Not the Trump part, but the ensuring that skilled politicians don't get wasted. The GOP has a frustrating history of letting its skilled members go free when they get redistricted out or lose a swing election.

I agree there's alot of Republican politicians who are great who end up getting redistricted or lose a swing seat. Who we never see again. This is perfect since Nunes will basically still be around heading Trump's social media site.

Meanwhile, immediately after the Virginia loss, the "Biden administration" started looking for a job for McAuliffe.

White House wants McAuliffe after Virginia gubernatorial loss: report

Punchbowl News reported Thursday that White House officials are looking to place the former Democratic National Committee chair somewhere in the hierarchy.

nypost.com

 

[Oats12345]

Meanwhile, immediately after the Virginia loss, the "Biden administration" started looking for a job for McAuliffe.

White House wants McAuliffe after Virginia gubernatorial loss: report

Punchbowl News reported Thursday that White House officials are looking to place the former Democratic National Committee chair somewhere in the hierarchy.

nypost.com

I hope Republicans use this aginst Biden.

 

[Gehenna]

Meanwhile, immediately after the Virginia loss, the "Biden administration" started looking for a job for McAuliffe.

White House wants McAuliffe after Virginia gubernatorial loss: report

Punchbowl News reported Thursday that White House officials are looking to place the former Democratic National Committee chair somewhere in the hierarchy.

nypost.com

It is something the Democrats have been doing for a while and something the Republicans really should do more of. It's not IdPol or any sort of doctrinal thing, it's just preserving your experienced members even though they had some sort of loss.