Trainwreck The Empathic Nutritionist / Empathic Mamahood / Robyn Grogitsky-Ramirez / Luna Elva Ramirez / Glenn Ramirez / Atlas Glenn Standford Ramirez - Eyefucking Sociopath Selfie Addict Mother and Closeted Gymrat Pothead Father who use Instagram to Parade their Homemade Homunculus Tard Baby Created by their Refusal to Follow any Medical Oversights

Will Robyn actually go back to see the neurosurgeon in California?

  • Yes

    Votes: 26 12.2%
  • No

    Votes: 107 50.2%
  • Luna will die before the planned trip date

    Votes: 80 37.6%

  • Total voters
    213
  • Poll closed .
Fevers are extremely dangerous for young children. You don't play around when your kid has an abnormal temperature. If rotating tylenol and motrin doesn't help take the kid to urgent care or the ER because you can end up causing severe harm (including death) if you ignore a fever. Call the doctors office too so they know what's going on.

Honey isn't going to do shit other than make your sick kid sticky and make them even more sick

I’m new around here, but just wanted to add to the fever discussion. I’m a Peds ER nurse. Fevers in and of themselves aren’t dangerous. We now know the height of the fever doesn’t really affect the likelihood of febrile seizures, it seems to be more related to the rapid increase or decrease of temperature. And febrile seizures are not inherently dangerous, most are self limiting and the vast majority of children who have them do *not* go on to have a seizure disorder.

Unless it’s a teeny tiny baby (like less than 60 days) as long as the child is acting relatively normal and perks up after then temp comes down, we don’t even do any sort of work up until they have had a fever for 5 days, especially if they have an obvious focus like a head cold, flu, etc.

We recommend Advil and Tylenol just to keep the kid happy and comfortable, but if they have a fever and they’re still eating and drinking and acting normally, the fever itself is not going to hurt them.

All this is for a child with a normal healthy immune system, a child like Luna would need to be seen to sooner than the average child.
 
I just had an epiphany. A week ago Robyn said Luna was having tummy aches. How she knows this is beyond me. But a few days ago she was saying “arsenic is a great way to treat anxiety.” I remember from watching forensic files that agonizing stomach aches are a sign of arsenic poisoning. Could she be dosing Luna with diluted arsenic? Although that would be pretty :optimistic: of me to think that.
 
I just had an epiphany. A week ago Robyn said Luna was having tummy aches. How she knows this is beyond me. But a few days ago she was saying “arsenic is a great way to treat anxiety.” I remember from watching forensic files that agonizing stomach aches are a sign of arsenic poisoning. Could she be dosing Luna with diluted arsenic? Although that would be pretty :optimistic: of me to think that.
Luna is tube fed, lays on her back 98% of the time and is totally non-ambulatory. The kid probably poops once a week. I figure after ten days of no poop Robin concludes she has a tummy ache and starts mildly poisoning her to trigger liquify her intestinal contents.
Fevers are extremely dangerous for young children. You don't play around when your kid has an abnormal temperature. If rotating tylenol and motrin doesn't help take the kid to urgent care or the ER because you can end up causing severe harm (including death) if you ignore a fever. Call the doctors office too so they know what's going on.

Honey isn't going to do shit other than make your sick kid sticky and make them even more sick
I actually get deep feels when I think about all the mothers who had to care for sick babies and children with skyrocketing temperatures and had nothing to help them. NSAIDs are a fucking amazing and there is no reason to let a kid suffer with a 104 fever when some Tylenol will knock that shit down to 99.8 in thirty minutes and give relief.

PL about shit woo moms
My husband had a mom who was hardcore woo believer and she never gave him any medicine when he was sick as a child. He still has horrific memories of days of unrelenting suffering and fear during several terrible illnesses where he got no treatment whatsoever.
 
I’m new around here, but just wanted to add to the fever discussion. I’m a Peds ER nurse. Fevers in and of themselves aren’t dangerous. We now know the height of the fever doesn’t really affect the likelihood of febrile seizures, it seems to be more related to the rapid increase or decrease of temperature. And febrile seizures are not inherently dangerous, most are self limiting and the vast majority of children who have them do *not* go on to have a seizure disorder.

Unless it’s a teeny tiny baby (like less than 60 days) as long as the child is acting relatively normal and perks up after then temp comes down, we don’t even do any sort of work up until they have had a fever for 5 days, especially if they have an obvious focus like a head cold, flu, etc.

We recommend Advil and Tylenol just to keep the kid happy and comfortable, but if they have a fever and they’re still eating and drinking and acting normally, the fever itself is not going to hurt them.

All this is for a child with a normal healthy immune system, a child like Luna would need to be seen to sooner than the average child.

I second this as another (relatively newly transferred to the floor) fellow peds nurse. Luna having all of these medical devices like a shunt would make me more likely to have doctor intervention much quicker, but normal children (and any patient in general, really) go through tylenol so often that we really should have a standalone pyxis for it. Spiking 105-106 is much different than maintaining it for a longer period of time. And to reiterate what everyone else has said, for the love of god don't give babies honey. Literally even says it on the damn bottle, Robyn.

Question to the med fags, do these videos kind of prove that her eyes aren't connected to anything? I know there's been debate about whether there was some connection being made but this seems to show that to be untrue. To me, it appears that she doesn't even have doll eyes. They just flail in her head.

So in the physical sense, yes, they're still attached to the musculature to do that weird eye movement you're seeing. Nystagmus that you're seeing here is a symptom of her seizures and can denote serious brain damage. Sometimes it's not too serious, like I've had a child patient with it with mild cerebral palsy who was are legally blind but otherwise normal, and had eye surgery on the muscles around the eye to correct it. In Luna's case, we keep calling her cortically blind, which means that there is partial or total (I'm betting it's the latter) vision loss because of specific brain damage to the area of the brain that processes vision. So in that sense, it wouldn't be connected to anything. Unless Robyn shows us scans or actual solid proof that states otherwise, reminder to take anything medical diagnosis here with a grain of salt, because all we have to go on are videos of Luna and the rare times Robyn shows actual medical documents (and while some of us are physicians, others of us are a wider scope of medical professions like RNs, RTs, etc.). Even if she can be an unreliable narrator (she legit thinks Luna can see, when it's obvious by pure observation that she can't), I would need the opinion of a neuro-ophthalmologist to say definitively 'this is the scope of Luna's brain damage and this is how much she can or can't see' before I can say this is what she has.
I will say though that we (OP and others) have done a great job at looking at other case studies, mapping out similar symptoms, using different medical scales and knowledge, and extrapolating from there to paint a pretty concise picture of what Luna most likely has, which is to say yikes on bikes, the kid will forever be fucked. I don't miss being a vet tech, but we could at least euthanize animals that were circling the drain unlike here.
 
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I’m new around here, but just wanted to add to the fever discussion. I’m a Peds ER nurse. Fevers in and of themselves aren’t dangerous. We now know the height of the fever doesn’t really affect the likelihood of febrile seizures, it seems to be more related to the rapid increase or decrease of temperature. And febrile seizures are not inherently dangerous, most are self limiting and the vast majority of children who have them do *not* go on to have a seizure disorder.

Unless it’s a teeny tiny baby (like less than 60 days) as long as the child is acting relatively normal and perks up after then temp comes down, we don’t even do any sort of work up until they have had a fever for 5 days, especially if they have an obvious focus like a head cold, flu, etc.

We recommend Advil and Tylenol just to keep the kid happy and comfortable, but if they have a fever and they’re still eating and drinking and acting normally, the fever itself is not going to hurt them.

All this is for a child with a normal healthy immune system, a child like Luna would need to be seen to sooner than the average child.

I second this as another (relatively newly transferred to the floor) fellow peds nurse. Luna having all of these medical devices like a shunt would make me more likely to have doctor intervention much quicker, but normal children (and any patient in general, really) go through tylenol so often that we really should have a standalone pyxis for it. Spiking 105-106 is much different than maintaining it for a longer period of time. And to reiterate what everyone else has said, for the love of god don't give babies honey. Literally even says it on the damn bottle, Robyn.



So in the physical sense, yes, they're still attached to the musculature to do that weird eye movement you're seeing. Nystagmus that you're seeing here is a symptom of her seizures and can denote serious brain damage. Sometimes it's not too serious, like I've had a child patient with it with mild cerebral palsy who was are legally blind but otherwise normal, and had eye surgery on the muscles around the eye to correct it. In Luna's case, we keep calling her cortically blind, which means that there is partial or total (I'm betting it's the latter) vision loss because of specific brain damage to the area of the brain that processes vision. So in that sense, it wouldn't be connected to anything. Unless Robyn shows us scans or actual solid proof that states otherwise, reminder to take anything medical diagnosis here with a grain of salt, because all we have to go on are videos of Luna and the rare times Robyn shows actual medical documents (and while some of us are physicians, others of us are a wider scope of medical professions like RNs, RTs, etc.). Even if she can be an unreliable narrator (she legit thinks Luna can see, when it's obvious by pure observation that she can't), I would need the opinion of a neuro-ophthalmologist to say definitively 'this is the scope of Luna's brain damage and this is how much she can or can't see' before I can say this is what she has.
I will say though that we (OP and others) have done a great job at looking at other case studies, mapping out similar symptoms, using different medical scales and knowledge, and extrapolating from there to paint a pretty concise picture of what Luna most likely has, which is to say yikes on bikes, the kid will forever be fucked. I don't miss being a vet tech, but we could at least euthanize animals that were circling the drain unlike here.
Sorry to shit up the thread but thank you both for doing what you do. Competent, professional nurses make everything better. ❤️
 
As ever, that "therapist" should be put up against the wall and shot for torturing Luna.

But Atlas. Holy shit, little dude - you're nine months old and you UNDERSTAND LANGUAGE, bruh! He gets invited over? He comes running! You tell him bounce? Bruh, he's gonna bounce like a king.

I hope you are strong enough and smart enough to run away to Grandma's house soon, little dude. Nurse Grandma Lisa will never suffocate you with her titties, or try to give you a draught of arsenic to make you stop moving around so much.
It's really important at his age when he listens to a multistep request like "come over and bounce your sister," even if broken into one step commands, that Robyn and Glenn are all over him for his obedience. They should absolutely lose their minds praising him for compliance. It's as important as harshly rebuking him when he does something dangerous.
 
Luna is tube fed, lays on her back 98% of the time and is totally non-ambulatory. The kid probably poops once a week. I figure after ten days of no poop Robin concludes she has a tummy ache and starts mildly poisoning her to trigger liquify her intestinal contents.

This is absolutely the explanation for Luna’s “tummy ache”. Her bowel function will be terrible. Also, didn’t Robyn post one of her hectoring Insta stories about the evils of osmotic laxatives recently? She is no more likely to treat Luna’s chronic constipation with proper meds than she is going to treat a fever with Tylenol.
 
The mushroom she means appears to be:
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"Organic Immune Shroom Army: Chaga, Reishi, Turkey Tail, Maitake, Shiitake. This synergistic blend of five immunomodulating mushrooms helps strengthen and support the immune system, fight inflammation, and aid in proper digestion."

Robyn wants people to join her in fellowship of the Healy:
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Been checking more of the shit Robyn's been getting form this womans account.
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Supposedly the tetanus shot doesn't stop tetanus. She also does not beleive in vaccines nor covid nor any sickness really as seen in her response to fevers.

And this is another person telling people to ingest essential oils:
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"Ingredients : Wild Orange Peel, Clove Bud, Cinnamon Leaf, Cinnamon Bark, Eucalyptus Leaf, and Rosemary Leaf/Flower essential oils."

Treating ear infections:
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She is REALLY REALLY against circumsicion and equates it to a human rights violation:
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SIDS is caused by vaccines:
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Left Handedness is caused by subtle brain damage due to ultrasounds:
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She really hates vaccines and made a nice color coded chart:
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The vitamin K shot kills newborns:
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She of course homeschools using no real curriculum:
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She is anti-antibotic:
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Medical Freedom and Vaccines:
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Placenta Pills:
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Robyn annoys me. If it's not her overly gooey 'mama' voice, endless and irritating boomerang videos zooming in and out on her smug face and poor seizing Luna (as if to say 'Look what I did to my kid crushing her in my vagina dententa!') and her barely disguised desire to flash the most repulsive tits mankind has ever seen, it's everything else stupid she does.

What I wouldn't give to see her verbally ripped apart in front of an audience, her bullshit exposed to the light of truth, and both her and her half-baked weed-smoking husband hung out to dry for being the room-temperature idiots that they are.
 
The mushroom she means appears to be:
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"Organic Immune Shroom Army: Chaga, Reishi, Turkey Tail, Maitake, Shiitake. This synergistic blend of five immunomodulating mushrooms helps strengthen and support the immune system, fight inflammation, and aid in proper digestion."

Robyn wants people to join her in fellowship of the Healy:
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Been checking more of the shit Robyn's been getting form this womans account.
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Supposedly the tetanus shot doesn't stop tetanus. She also does not beleive in vaccines nor covid nor any sickness really as seen in her response to fevers.

And this is another person telling people to ingest essential oils:
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"Ingredients : Wild Orange Peel, Clove Bud, Cinnamon Leaf, Cinnamon Bark, Eucalyptus Leaf, and Rosemary Leaf/Flower essential oils."

Treating ear infections:
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She is REALLY REALLY against circumsicion and equates it to a human rights violation:
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SIDS is caused by vaccines:
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Left Handedness is caused by subtle brain damage due to ultrasounds:
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She really hates vaccines and made a nice color coded chart:
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The vitamin K shot kills newborns:
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Medical Freedom and Vaccines:
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For those who praise us here, thank you. Because people like her above are sadly more common than you think as coworkers and fucking idiots. She's a RN-BC, which means board certified, which is horrifying considering her views listed here. The only thing I would probably be fair on her about is the circumcision views - a lot of nurses and physicians are moving away from pressuring parents to do it because there are a both laundry lists of cons and benefits to doing it, and it should be the parent's choice.

But everything else about this dumbass is just par for the course for someone who shills doTERRA. Can't believe these people are licensed, gone through an ongoing pandemic, and still come out the other side hating vaccines, despite almost all of them having their childhood vaccines (ergo, not remembering how horrible some of the diseases are for the need FOR said vaccines) AND the vaccines we were required to get to go to nursing school.
 
This isn’t little dudes fault but in the opening shots in the second video he looks like a baby hitler. The side swept combover is what does it and his nonchalant expression.

Luna’s got the everlasting gobstopper of life. #lipsmackchew

When the PT started turning her head in the first pt video i thought she was going to keep going and twist it like an owl all the way around.

The next video when the PT turns her head the other way; it seemed to turn the ignition on for a few leg controlling synapses.
 
I am sorry but this is the one that got me. I try to ignore her woo shit cuz it pisses me off but holy fuck what kind of retarded shit is this?
This is what makes me insane. Citation needed... on all the slides.

Say it with me: correlation is not causation. Anecdotes are an n of 1. The dose makes the poison. Dr. Bob Sears has a very crunchy, selected clientele, and he should fucking know better than to attribute health to lack of vaccine.

Also, SIDS rates are much lower now than 25 years ago, not because of antivaxxers, but the Back to Sleep campaign.
 
I am sorry but this is the one that got me. I try to ignore her woo shit cuz it pisses me off but holy fuck what kind of retarded shit is this?
Honestly, concerning this woman, are you really surprised?

You probably could tell her liquefied dog poo is the cure-all for restless asshole and next video you'll see is her shilling it as the new and revolutionary cure-all for all sorts of anal issues.

I really don't see her as being more then a narcissistic and vain woman who huffs her own farts, inserts her head daily into her rectal cavity, and thinks she's God's gift to crunchy Busy Moms Everywhere in Suburbia, Flyover State USA.

She'll latch onto anything remotely stupid as long as it allows her to say she's more then just a boring suburban mom surrounded by other boring suburban moms. Even stuff that claims being left-handed is caused by brain damage and thinking her dying seizing daughter is really this nth- level empath and Reiki master.
 
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What always astonishes me about the antimedicine folks is how they still seek out treatments.

So you don't believe in medicine, many of which are synthesized from plants, but you'll buy a vibrating gadget?
How is that more natural?

I get people who try to treat things herbally too, to an extent. At least there's science backing that stuff. But you start getting into unregulated supplements, weird medical gadgets, unnecessary and sometimes risky "treatments"... and it's obvious that people gravitate toward those things because the people who sell it are either cult-like in their belief or grifters. Someone who tells you they have a solution to everything, or tells you exactly what you want to hear and are right about all the time, is just trying to take your money.

If they really want to be natural they could not use any of these dumb supplements or gadgets. Not eat so much red meat. Try to eat a balanced diet so that they get the nutrients they need, and limit harmful things they do to their body. Lol but no, let's buy a radioactive rock for it's healing powers.

Kind of MATI maybe. More just astonished at what people believe and build their lives around.

They're paleo and that diet is so dumb. Humans would not have eaten what is supposedly in the paleo diet. Especially not the concoctions Robyn comes up with. She could just eat more bugs for protein, like people actually did and do.

Give me my hats, I've finally hit peak Robyn and her woo.
 
Does her dog get an actual doctor? Are there chiropractors for dogs? Why not stick the Healy on him and put him on a grounding mat.

Hope the dog gets better.
There are actually chiropractors for animals. Supposedly it can help with the usual skeletal issues that can pop up with old age and digestion.

I haven't done a lot of research on animal chiros, I just know they exist cause a relative ended up down a weird rabbit hole on YouTube when researching kitten fostering.
 
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