Are you getting the vaccine? - Absolute trashfire thread, please enter with caution

Lol that's cute you think opioid epidemic is related to the covid vaccine. You keep changing the subject back to that because you can't answer my questions.

Bullshit, dude. You can't answer them and you know I am right that you have no point at all except just mistrust for the sake of mistrust.


No, I don't remember those videos. Show me the videos. China was probably lying about their cases after their lockdowns ended. But so what? That doesnt' prove vaccines are super duper deadly like you claim. You really are inept at logic, how the hell are you a programmer? It's literally been proven that Russia pushed anti-vax propaganda to weaken the US, but you refuse to believe it despite me showing you links showing it. Why do you refuse to believe it?


What?


Bullshit, dude. You didn't even read or address what I wrote. How do you know they weren't investigated? How do you know they were even vaccinated? If it's vaccine related, why were the deaths lower than 5 years ago? I literally destroyed your whole point using your own link, but then you just move the goal posts. Like I said, Donald Trump (your god) himself could investigate and find no link to the vaccine, but you'd still refuse to believe it because you conspiracy retards just can't see a spade for a spade.


So you are now admitting that the vaccine isn't as deadly as you were just claiming a few pages ago? So you are now saying the vaccine is not as deadly as covid? Which is it? Whenever I prove one of your points 100% false and back you into a corner, you just pretend you never implied or said what you said. So are vaccines super duper dangerous or not?

Way to prove you're uneducated even more, retard. The vaccine helps prevent you from spreading it to others who are high risk. Why are you such a selfish prick and unable to think about someone besides your own uneducated, spaztic self? Besides, since you're autistic and a programmer, you're probably overweight and at high risk for covid.

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Looks like I win because you won't answer it. Just admit you were duped by right-wing conmen and move on. You refuse to answer my questions because you know I am right
How are you not understanding my point about the opioid crisis? Yes people literal enslaved 10% of Americans for the pharmaceutical corporations for their personal benefit, even though they would've known the harm they were causing.

The vaccine doesn't prevent spread--the narrative is that it makes symptoms less severe. Even the Science has recognized that for a while.

I've never said the vaccine is less deadly than I said before. I believe the vaccines are dangerous, and the insane push to get them in everyone while handwaving mystery deaths and illnesses from climate change, youths smoking too much marijuana, winter vagina, too much fast food in 1.5 years, post-pandemic stress disorder, and so on, only leads me to believe they're dangerous. The lockstep of every institution of power in the West and their efforts to ruin anyone who questions anything makes me believe the vaccines are dangerous. Why would I trust people who lied to shut down society, and refused to consider anything other than the experimental products we're supposed to consume?



These videos. How are you confused by what I'm saying with the China videos? You're saying I'm saying that proves vaccines are deadly, but I'm clearly responding to your claims that Russian propaganda convinced me to be wary of the vaccines by pointing out that Chinese propaganda was the problem. You're doing exactly what I'm accusing you of--you're refusing to respond to points you don't like by spouting back whatever "zingers" Trevor Noah or whoever told you to. The Russians were apparently right if they were trying to get us to avoid the vaccines--they clearly aren't stopping the spread, and Omicron is being spread by the vaccinated.

Tell you what--why don't you give me an example of what an appropriate response to your antiquestions would be? We can go from there.
 
Why did those millionaires push unnecessary opiates when they were told to? Why would they do that, and not this? Why have doctors taken kickbacks when that could endanger their careers? Why did they help Pfizer hide unfavorable test results in the past if they could just become whistleblower heroes and live off their savings? You're the one having trouble understanding how the world works.

Jesus, you're buttmad I won't give the antianswers your antiquestions demand. Your gf must totally walk all over you if you act like this with strangers.

You really don't remember the videos of people dropping in the streets? Jesus, you Covidians have a selective memory. Why do you need someone to tell you they were up to something when it happened nowhere else, they opened early, and insisted they had an impossibly low number of COVID cases afterwards? You'll believe Secret Russians run society and don't want us to take rushed vaccines that clearly aren't working, especially when you consider Omicron has evolved to be weak exactly like the experts you Covidians and the pharmacorps ignored said it would. If we'd gone the natural immunity route many experts recommended early on, Russia would've harmed us less.

Are you gonna tell us how white Supreme are discouraging aborigines from getting vaccinated online, too? That's the current narrative.

Those soccer deaths and the others should be investigated without all the pressure to dismiss any concerns over the vaccines. Why can't you understand this? We're going to doubt that things were investigated or investigated properly as long as this retarded push for rushed vaccines continues.

People aren't just dropping dead immediately of COVID. You're pretending were saying that so you can easily dismiss our concerns we wouldn't have if you people stopped going full retard.


If yours works, don't worry about me. Of course, it's the vaccinated spreading Omicron. The rest of us are barely getting it, and it's absolutely nothing to deal with if we do. When this autism blows over, what will you devote your life to?
Lose some weight you fat fuck.
 
I want to stress that the vaccines are perfectly safe. It's just absurd to think otherwise. There's a lot of FUD about VAERS reports, the all-cause mortality of the vaccinated in Germany, athlete heart attacks, and so on. Just think rationally for a minute. Would the CEO of a pharmaceutical corporation just go out there and exaggerate his product's safety for nothing more than filthy lucre? Pharma CEOs are practically modern-day saints. A pharmaceutical company mass distributing something that wasn't very safe is unprecedented in history. People make a big deal about these liability waivers, but do we want CEOs to be distracted from saving the world because greedy commoners are upset about a made-up disease like myocarditis? On top of that, a lot of Congressmen invest in these companies. 48 congressmen are invested in Pfizer, none of them with less than a $1m stake. Members of Congress are public servants, not corporate slimeballs, so they only invest their money in companies that serve the public interest, like Pfizer, Tesla, and Raytheon. They're not even allowed to run for office without passing the highest ethical scrutiny. They wouldn't stake so much of their own money on this if there were anything wrong. Let's also note Moderna has increased its lobbying budget from $30,000 in 2019 to $125,000 today, and we know that lobbying expenditure is a good proxy for how passionate a corporation is about doing the right thing.

The reason not to get a vaccine is you don't need one. Obviously, we know if you're not fat and diabetic, you're safe, but there's more. Science proved a couple years ago that if you protest for Black Lives Matter, you're perfectly safe. This was reinforced at the Met Gala, where attendees were immune from giving the virus to each other thanks to their progressive politics (couldn't be sure about the servants, so they had to mask up). My neighbor has a BLM sign up in her yard, but it's close enough to mine that its protective aura easily covers me as well. If you live in any major American city, you are well-covered by the virus-free zones emanated by Black Lives Matter, Hate Has No Home Here, and In This House We Believe signs.
 
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How are you not understanding my point about the opioid crisis? Yes people literal enslaved 10% of Americans for the pharmaceutical corporations for their personal benefit, even though they would've known the harm they were causing.
The opioid crisis didn't involve those docs and scientists giving their own family opioids, you dense retard.

And the opioid crisis was fueled by a small percentage of doctors. Again, you are talking out of your ass again because you saw some FB boomer meme. Stop believing memes over experts, you gullible retard.
The vaccine doesn't prevent spread--the narrative is that it makes symptoms less severe. Even the Science has recognized that for a while.
That's not true at all. It's not 100% effective, but it's still pretty effective. Stop believing video clips that are cherry picked (similar to what Project Veritas does). I know crippling autism has rotted your diseased brain to the point where you can't understand percentages, but still, it's not a hard concept, man.
Now, this link is from the CDC, so you won't believe it because you think you know more then them and it's not a boomer FB meme, but:
Vaccinated people can still become infected and have the potential to spread the virus to others, although at much lower rates than unvaccinated people.
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COVID 19-vaccines are effective and can reduce the risk of getting and spreading the virus that causes COVID-19.
Now, I know you are an impressionable simpleton who thinks he knows more than the CDC, but you should believe them over your boomer uncle's memes. And again, it's not 100% effective and since you have autism, you can't understand things that aren't 0% or 100%, but ask your caretaker next time you talk to her.


I've never said the vaccine is less deadly than I said before. I believe the vaccines are dangerous, and the insane push to get them in everyone while handwaving mystery deaths and illnesses from climate change, youths smoking too much marijuana, winter vagina, too much fast food in 1.5 years, post-pandemic stress disorder, and so on, only leads me to believe they're dangerous. The lockstep of every institution of power in the West and their efforts to ruin anyone who questions anything makes me believe the vaccines are dangerous. Why would I trust people who lied to shut down society, and refused to consider anything other than the experimental products we're supposed to consume?
Then answer my question, retard. Where are these tens of millions of dead people who you say should exist? You can't produce them and keep dodging the question. I know you are inept at math and logic, so I even showed you where my numbers are coming from but apparently you're so stupid you can't even understand it then.



These videos. How are you confused by what I'm saying with the China videos? You're saying I'm saying that proves vaccines are deadly, but I'm clearly responding to your claims that Russian propaganda convinced me to be wary of the vaccines by pointing out that Chinese propaganda was the problem. You're doing exactly what I'm accusing you of--you're refusing to respond to points you don't like by spouting back whatever "zingers" Trevor Noah or whoever told you to. The Russians were apparently right if they were trying to get us to avoid the vaccines--they clearly aren't stopping the spread, and Omicron is being spread by the vaccinated.
Maybe, just maybe, Chinese and Russian propaganda are both a problem? Also, why the fuck would China stage videos to make the virus that they're getting blamed for look more dangerous than it is? You are seriously showing how inept you are at logic here. I fear for any person using software you wrote with how inept you are at logic dude. Like seriously, I hope your software is just stupid web apps because if you are working on airplane software, we are fucked.

The only difference between Russian and Chinese propaganda is that you believe Russian propaganda because you're a gullible, impressionable right-wing autist who worships Trump and conspiracy theories, so you love Russia because the elderly, obese conman who you want to have sex with does.

Tell you what--why don't you give me an example of what an appropriate response to your antiquestions would be? We can go from there.
Lol they're not anti-questions, you just won't answer them because you know I am right. I literally completely destroyed your claims, sometimes using your own source, and instead of doing what a logical person would do and say "Maybe HHH has a point here", you are just doubling down like a good, uneducated, intentionally and proudly ignorant right-wing spaz.

But anyway, some good responses:
1. You keep saying that either 99% of docs/scientists are involved in this vast conspiracy so much so that they are intentionally killing themselves and families over it, or you are saying that you know more than 99% of docs/scientists despite being an uneducated simpleton who gets his science info from conspiracy nutjobs on Bitchute. Which is it and why do you feel this way?
a: I think you've answered that you think 99% of docs/scientists are literally willing to kill themselves and their families to keep this conspiracy going (which is mind-boggling fucking stupid because if they're dead, they can't feed their families and many are millionaires already). So you should explain why scientists would be willing to kill themselves and their families instead of coming forward, with data, that the vaccines are super duper dangerous like you claim it is. Or just admit there is no data and you are making shit up like all anti-vax tards.

2. You and your fellow anti-vax nutjobs say that the vaccine is far more dangerous than covid. Billions of people have gotten the vaccine. There should be tens of millions dead from the vaccine (6 million dead from covid itself, while many times that have gotten the vaccine, so it's easy math even for someone like yourself who is inept at math). Where are these people? It should be easy for you to prove, since that's a lot of dead bodies.
Again, you claim to be a programmer. You should thus be able to see my logic in coming to these points. Hell, I've even shown you the math for #2. Stop dodging the questions now and either admit I am right or answer them.
a: Produce where these tens of millions of dead bodies are, and I've shown you the math as to why it should be that much by your own words, or admit that the vaccine isn't as dangerous as your spaztic, uneducated brain says it is.
 
I want to stress that the vaccines are perfectly safe. It's just absurd to think otherwise. There's a lot of FUD about VAERS reports, the all-cause mortality of the vaccinated in Germany, athlete heart attacks, and so on
Oh goodie, another simpleton who doesn't understand that anyone can submit data to VAERS (thus it's like wikipedia) and doesn't realize that 5 and 6 years ago, more people died of heart attacks playing soccer than in 2021. I guess we got another retard who thinks this super duper dangerous vaccine can time travel.

So where are these tens of millions of dead bodies you anti-vax tards claim should exist? I am starting to think you're mentally ill and making shit up because you're an uneducated retard
 
Oh goodie, another simpleton who doesn't understand that anyone can submit data to VAERS (thus it's like wikipedia) and doesn't realize that 5 and 6 years ago, more people died of heart attacks playing soccer than in 2021. I guess we got another retard who thinks this super duper dangerous vaccine can time travel.
this spike in high level football player getting heart attacks on the field is new. normaly just c.tier players from bad teams break down.
now we have it in top tier. the vaccine is a danger for young males and athletes. but that only means the rest should get vaccined.
young fit males shouldnt. there is no risk to them and its not okay to force them to get the jab when covid is only a danger to real elderly peoply and fat pigs...
 
@Hollywood Hulk Hogan
If I don't believe the numbers of dead the people pushing this insist I should believe, why would I believe that many are dead? Also, like I keep saying, there are also injuries, and conditions that slowly kill a person.

The CDC gets 45% of its funding from "private sources." They wanted us to shut down until those sources invented vaccines, and didn't want to even entertain alternate treatments in the meantime. Their name is mud, and their claims are doubtful. Judging by how the most vaccinated countries are hotspots, everywhere with lower rates would be graveyards, since we'd spread spread more somehow.

I already explained why doctors would take the risk. Are you literally retarded instead of autistic, or are you pretending I didn't give you a response again? I'm not explaining it again, since I already did. Like I said, your "question" was stupid, and you're just assmad I didn't answer it like you wanted me to.

Why wouldn't doctors try to preserve their jobs like every person at every institution a whistleblower exposed? Plenty of doctors pushed hard drugs on people, and those whistleblowers did dick to stop it. It took years to get any real action on the matter.

We understand anyone can submit data to VAERS-- however, when Pfizer's own data shows 1200 deaths in three months and their dishonesty has long since been disproven, I'm inclined to believe those numbers are worth listening to. Why would I trust them with the push to take their experimental products?

Why is it so hard for you to understand that we don't trust these people, and for reason? If you tards knocked this off and things were done normally, people might listen. You wouldn't trust a known thief, and you wouldn't let him crash at your place, but you're essentially demanding the same from the rest of us.
 
this spike in high level football player getting heart attacks on the field is new. normaly just c.tier players from bad teams break down.
now we have it in top tier. the vaccine is a danger for young males and athletes. but that only means the rest should get vaccined.
young fit males shouldnt. there is no risk to them and its not okay to force them to get the jab when covid is only a danger to real elderly peoply and fat pigs...
You and your fellow right-wing autists are usually fat pigs, though, so you guys should get it.

@Hollywood Hulk Hogan
If I don't believe the numbers of dead the people pushing this insist I should believe, why would I believe that many are dead? Also, like I keep saying, there are also injuries, and conditions that slowly kill a person.
Bullshit. If the vaccine is even 0.25% fatal, there should be tens of millions of people here. I literally showed you the math, yet you still can't follow it. How are you a programmer? Computer science degrees involve math, yet you've shown yourself to be completely incapable of logic, math, or even learning in general.

The CDC gets 45% of its funding from "private sources." They wanted us to shut down until those sources invented vaccines, and didn't want to even entertain alternate treatments in the meantime. Their name is mud, and their claims are doubtful. Judging by how the most vaccinated countries are hotspots, everywhere with lower rates would be graveyards, since we'd spread spread more somehow.
Of course you don't believe CDC numbers. Everyone is lying to you except career conmen and boomer FB memes and Alex Jones. How do you even function in society? Serious question. You don't believe anything except boomer FB memes, conspiracy nutjobs, and believe you know more about a virus than doctors and scientists. How are you even still alive?

I already explained why doctors would take the risk. Are you literally retarded instead of autistic, or are you pretending I didn't give you a response again? I'm not explaining it again, since I already did. Like I said, your "question" was stupid, and you're just assmad I didn't answer it like you wanted me to.

Why wouldn't doctors try to preserve their jobs like every person at every institution a whistleblower exposed? Plenty of doctors pushed hard drugs on people, and those whistleblowers did dick to stop it. It took years to get any real action on the matter.
I literally explained to you why they wouldn't need to worry about the risk and again, why would they willingly kill themselves and their own families to promote this conspiracy? You still haven't answered that other than "THEYD LOSE THEIR JOBS!". But they wouldn't if they could prove it, and what good is having the job to feed their families if they and their families are dead? Also, a lot are millionaires, so why would they risk their own and families lives over it? They're already set financially. Like I've said many times, it's obvious you're uneducated and inept at logic and even probably functioning in society.

Just take the L here, son. Your argument is done and defeated.
We understand anyone can submit data to VAERS-- however, when Pfizer's own data shows 1200 deaths in three months and their dishonesty has long since been disproven, I'm inclined to believe those numbers are worth listening to. Why would I trust them with the push to take their experimental products?
You do know that, with millions of people who got the vaccine, some of them are going to die from many different causes, right? Again, you are inept at math, but a million people getting vaccinated, most of them high risk at that point in time (i.e. elderly people and those having immunocompromising conditions were the first people vaccinated after healthcare workers) could die from a lot of different causes. You claim to be a logical person (lol) so you should be able to realize that maybe, just maybe, these deaths were from non-vaccine related causes, right? Oh, wait, no, you refuse to believe that. You won't believe anything unless it says the deaths were from the vaccine. You claim to have done your research, yet you obviously haven't because you can't even put two and two together and just blindly believe career conmen and boomer Facebook memes.

Why is it so hard for you to understand that we don't trust these people, and for reason? If you tards knocked this off and things were done normally, people might listen. You wouldn't trust a known thief, and you wouldn't let him crash at your place, but you're essentially demanding the same from the rest of us.
I've literally destroyed your arguments and you still can't answer my questions. Admit you lost, son. Your arguments are done and defeated.

You have literally zero evidence supporting what you say, and since you refuse to believe any source that isn't a Facebook boomer meme or a Bitchute video, there's no reasoning with you. You are literally a mark that conmen are feasting on. Is it your autism that makes you more impressionable? Studies have shown that you folks with autism are way more easily conned and more prone to believing baseless conspiracy theories. Unless you will answer my questions, and I even showed you what you could answer with, you are admitting defeat here.
 
You and your fellow right-wing autists are usually fat pigs, though, so you guys should get it.
i am not just habbed, im also boosted.
but well my job is way more important than most so i got a sweat deal on it months ago.

I will support you in your drive to get the fat and elderly( @JosephStalin ) vavvinated. but there is no need for younger people to get it. covid is a heavy cold for young people and they should take it to get more antibodies from an infection...
 
I haven't got the Vax, and I have no intention of getting it. I could sperg on about how I distrust the government/corporations and how mandates are wrong, blah blah blah. But ultimately my own reasoning boils down to this:


If I end up with the wu flu, it will either give me two weeks off of work or it kills me. Either way, I am okay with it.
 
Covid one isn't either. I have no idea why you anti-vaxers all have crippling autism and can't understand that something that isn't 100% effective still isn't useless.
Because there is a rather large chasm between entirely effective or mostly effective and completely fucking useless gene therapy peddled by bullshit artists and mandated by sociopaths for a mostly non-lethal disease.

Every vaccine I have been given up until this point falls into the first category. The shite my government is trying to coerce me into taking falls into the second.

By all means though, it's time for your boosty booster, and the next one, and the next one, and next one....
 
Because there is a rather large chasm between entirely effective or mostly effective and completely fucking useless gene therapy peddled by bullshit artists and mandated by sociopaths for a mostly non-lethal disease.

Every vaccine I have been given up until this point falls into the first category. The shite my government is trying to coerce me into taking falls into the second.

By all means though, it's time for your boosty booster, and the next one, and the next one, and next one....
There is one total booster. Are you such a retard that you can't even count to one? You're a retard even by anti-vaxer standards

If I end up with the wu flu, it will either give me two weeks off of work or it kills me. Either way, I am okay with it.
That is one legit reason I can't argue with, I will give you that
 
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