Jaron Seth Bloshinsky / Jazz Jennings / I Am Jazz - Puberty Blockers: Not Even Once

Greg is a giant sack of fake pussies made out of inverted dicks and ball skin, but I think the LGBT brainwashing here is pernicious, and yes, I am blaming the LGB for some of this shit, too.

Conflating gay shit and trans shit is one of the worst examples of Overton window creep in the modern era.

Like I assume that everyone commenting here agrees that some men are born fags and will die fags and that trying to change these men is a waste of time.

Troons have been given the same treatment in the modern era. Woman born in a man's body, always was a woman, very sad, many such cases.

The problem in part is that gay men aren't waging war on the whole concept of biology by wanting to fuck other men. Two guys fuck each other, that doesn't affect me. Just be open about it and don't drag women into your bullshit.

But the gays have taken the troons under their umbrella and it's a Trojan horse.

So here's 95 IQ Greg, who is told that this child is actually a girl and needs to be affirmed as a girl and the kid was born a girl and will die a girl, who is he to argue? Like if one of his kids (Sander, cough) came out as a giant faggot, his job as a good dad is to accept that, right?

Like obviously in retrospect he done fucked up, but how many of us were that dialed into troon issues in 2004? Like now I have personally met several very unsettling troons and I know of a lot more via the internet and I think it's a collection of mental issues thrown together for some very unsavory reasons, but I would not have had the ammo then to push back on a kid trooning out.
 
Rewatching se7 ep2 because the YouTube version was awful (thanks @On a Journey).


I have to say, I am disappointed at the way that the conversation with TS Maddison. It looks like they just set it up as a means to separate the mental health issues form the surgery. Also, why tf was Sander sitting in the background during the interview?

The siblings are dicks. The whole beach scene was badly staged. Griffin goes, "it's not really our jobs, but she's not doing it herself--and it's concerning" while he talks about formulating a plan to micromanage Jazz's health.

I feel bad for Jazz because ever since he was a kid, there's been this weird focus placed on his body. First because he was a girly boy and needed to be corrected for his mother's benefit and now because he's fat and eating is the only way he can exercise control over his life.

That boy gets no chill time.

The weighing part is depressing. It just highlights the pleasure Jeanette has in embarrassing Jazz. Like, the part when she flips through his trash stash, she's just standing by the dresser, visibly angry and tapping her fingers on the dresser top, Jazz immedeatly gets up to weigh himself, as if to prevent his mother's inevitable freak out.

The tummy bongos part was such immature little boy behavior. And Jeannette saying, "I think you are like outside your body. Your playing the bongo drums on your stomach [...] you are this beautiful person. Trapped underneath this weight."

I wonder if Jeannette told Jaron that while she was trying to troon him: you are this beautiful girl trapped inside the body of this boy

It seems like Jeanette projects this sensation of being trapped onto Jazz and tries to anxiously help him escape from conditions that will "potentially" hold him back (being a boy/ being fat).

The siblings focusing too much on the weight as that being the only thing that is preventing Jazz from happy as opposed to helping him deal with his anxiety and help him recognize the grief he potentially feels over the loss of his penis. Like, I imagine there must be a feeling of disconnect related to losing a body part, but everyone is so shallow they focus on the weight and not the process that led to the weight.

The mixer being set up as an opportunity for Jazz to get distracted from all the "urges and cravings she has with food" really just is a way for Sander to pimp Jazz out for his SoMe profiles.

Seriously, granpa jack must be on something because he keeps making lewd comments at grandma Jackie "I haven't been able to get her into the sack in a long time".

Even Griffin calls it "Sander's event" c'mon! Leave the poor kid alone, you predators!

"JaZz LoOkS a BiT uNcOmFoRtABle In ThE pOtAtO sAcK--pRoBaBlY bEcAuSe ShE's tOo BiG" no shit, Sander

I can't believe Jazz named his tummy "belly bob" big time cringe

The fact that even walking and breathing is hard for Jazz and no one connects this to trooning out is depressing.

Watching Sander celebrate his victory while Jazz lies there on the ground trying to catch his breath really highlights how Sander is slowly replacing Jazz as the Jennings' LGBTQ darling.

The vision square part sucks. There's just so much there that could be applied to the troonsition and not just the weight gain. I really hate the persistent micromanaging of jazz's life.

"OUR" vision square. That's important because it isn't Jazz's choice. How sad that all Jazz cares about is pleasing his mom and dad.

Ari: You don't have to please anyone but yourself

Jazz: I dont care about myself or what brings me happy-- I live for others, I guess

This is saaaaad. C'mon!

Ari: but don't live to make others proud

As siblings continue to force Jazz to lose weight.

The mixer is a tragedy.

Poor Jazz just wants to be free to eat and not deal with LGBTQ shit.

Victoria :( poor Jazz. Seriously, do you guys think that TLC did it in purpose to provoke a reaction?

Sander. Is. A. Brainless. Dick. Jazz said no mic and Sander just had to coerce Jazz to play along.

The shilling of the SRS is the worst. Jazz is literally at the verge of crying as he says, "even though I did experience a huge complications, I feel like, I finally have the body I always wanted and I have that mind-body alignment that wasn't there before. I feel like I am complete."

If that was the case, why are the Jennings trying to force Jazz to lose weight? If he's feels a mind-body alignment to being a fat girl, why does his family sti force him to obsess over his body's faults and imperfections?

Why would Noah (nipple troon from Gallagher's office), a person who has never met Sander before, be publicly asking Sander a question about his sexuality at the mixer Q&A? Was this all supposed to lead up to Sander's coming to terms with his preference for "melons over sacks" in the next episode, when he goes out on a date with Hope, the troon?

Sorry for the long post.
 
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I feel bad for Jazz because ever since he was a kid, there's been this weird focus placed on his body. First because he was a girly boy and needed to be corrected for his mother's benefit and now because he's fat and eating is the only way he can exercise control over his life.
It's really no surprise that he feels disconnected from his body when it was made everyone elses issue. He was presented to the whole world via tv shows and articles. His penis size was discussed on TV ffs! His body was never his own. Not only was it something "wrong" that needed to be butchered but the whole world was invited to witness the butchering. And even know Jazz has no privacy. He is most likely legit dysphoric now.
 
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The mixer is a tragedy.
For that mixer alone, I hope Sander gets forcibly girldicked by one of the black troons he loves so much. The little prick.

It was so cruel to do that to Jazz. Everyone knows Jazz doesn't like speaking in public or being the center of attention, and they create this incredibly awkward situation where a handful of people, who aren't even slightly acquainted, stand around in a silent almost empty room staring at poor Jazz. And with fucking cameras on! Even an extraverted youngster would probably struggle with that! This family is always setting him up for failure and it's horrible to watch.

And why the fuck was Jeanette's fat 'friend' there? Bitch, you're old, leave the kids alone.
 
I don't need to be "reminded" that Jeanette wanted Jazz's complications covered up; that doesn't, by extension, mean that there are STILL complications in the form of a gaping, bleeding, festering wound to this day. Jazz was able to move around just fine after the last surgery and before the 100-pound weight gain and, as I say, there would by now be systemic ramifications if there were a continual untreatable infection.

As for Bowers and Ting, Greg was making like a lawyer in one of the later talking heads, so that may explain why they're no longer in the picture. Not that they could successfully sue for what I'm sure they signed off on: an experimental procedure.

As for Greg, as I also said, HE WAS CONVINCED just as Jazz and Jeanette were, although he was late to the party. It's clear that deep down inside there may have been a doubt, or perhaps he just wanted to take a more conservative approach to the transition, but he, too (along with the siblings) truly believed that to block it would have resulted in Jazz's suicide.

So obviously he wasn't going to bring THAT about.

Did Jazz have any boob enhancement or silicone implants? They can’t just be down to oestrogen, surely.
Supplemental estrogen, suppressed testosterone, and good old-fashioned fat. If they were implants, they'd look better (wouldn't be droopy, tuberous, and assymetrical), or they'd be suing THAT surgeon (too).
 
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But the gays have taken the troons under their umbrella and it's a Trojan horse.

The gays were the Trojan horse. We zoomed really quickly from, "don't be an absolute asshole to a someone based on how he gets his jollies when you're not around" to, "it is bigoted and wicked to even think that it is possible for a such thing as a 'paraphilia' to exist, even in a strictly clinical sense, all forms of human sexual desire are equally healthy, both in an individual and social sense. Okay, fine, except pedophilia. For now. Tee hee."
 
I don't need to be "reminded" that Jeanette wanted Jazz's complications covered up; that doesn't, by extension, mean that there are STILL complications in the form of a gaping, bleeding, festering wound to this day.
You seem to assume those are the only complications that could haunt him. Seriously, if you haven’t, go over the SRS thread and start from the top.

I’ll make it easier- just search Jess Ting in that thread.
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This Ting patient isn’t bleeding actively, but they’re still permanently botched (“gaping” was on your list- he’s dealing with it). You should also search the saga of EmmaLake botched by Sidhbh Gallagher over the course of years and multiple surgeries. Or thread regular Lettucelat, who is indeed leaking disgusting fluid years after his surgery.

I guess you’re assuming that because Jazz is ambulatory, albeit slowly because fat, he’s probably doing fine down there. I doubt it, and I REALLY doubt it if Sidhbh says “looks good!” because her results are terrible at best.
 
As for Greg, as I also said, HE WAS CONVINCED just as Jazz and Jeanette were, although he was late to the party. It's clear that deep down inside there may have been a doubt, or perhaps he just wanted to take a more conservative approach to the transition, but he, too (along with the siblings) truly believed that to block it would have resulted in Jazz's suicide.

So obviously he wasn't going to bring THAT about.
I don't get how you can say that with such authority. I mean, it's a possibility. It is possible Jeannette and Greg were convinced they have to accept Jazz's transition or he would kill himself... It is also possible Jeannette got into her head that Jazz must be trans for whatever reason, and that Greg agreed mostly out of wanting to avoid conflict. We really don't know the truth. We can only speculate. To me the later seems more likely than the former, but it's just my guess.
 
I know the result isn't perfect, but I don't believe it's the living nightmare people here make it out to be. It gets tiresome. Jazz has bigger problems, unfortunately.
It is a living nightmare because it's not a vagina, it's a hole. It's the equivalent of someone blowing up a grenade on his crotch, the penis is gone and they're trying to call the empty space a vagina only because both are "hollow" to make the patient feel better.

A vagina is not a hole, we've said this already. There is a reason why women who are raped can present scarring and signs of violence, because the vagina is a muscle that can expand or close. Jazzs hole can't do that. He can't do anything with that hole besides pray it doesn't crack.
 
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