General Discussion for Virtual Youtubers / Vtubers / Chuubas - it's okay to be a simp for 2D, just don't thirstpost.

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I think it might be more intelligent than i gave it credit earlier.
 
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Off course said:
Gura might technically be the most popular hololiveEN member, but where does she rank for you guys? I don't see that much discussion about her on here very often.
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For me she's second recently dethroned by Kronii
 
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Gura might technically be the most popular hololiveEN member, but where does she rank for you guys? I don't see that much discussion about her on here very often.
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She is how I fell in the rabbit hole and is as close to an oshi as I probably have. As others have said, there's not a whole lot of drama around her (other than being the most subscribed and what that entails) and her past life is pretty well known, so not much more to discuss.

Country Roads said:
She's not that autistic other than having a foot fetish, so she's not going to be brought up here that much.

She's a decent and fun streamer relaxing on her throne of being #1 subbed in the world. Unfortunately it means we don't get the full cultured content we know she's capable of due to the scrutiny and brand management she has to uphold being the most visible... but ah well, we get glimpses during AmeSame and Bone Bros.
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The foot fetish thing is just a meme. I don't really think she cares but plays it up for her chat. Content!

As far as the "cultured content we know she's capable of", I don't really think they are holding her back. She seems like she has just grown beyond that and does what she wants in the present. People really need to get over Gura-is-just-Senzawa-being-"held-back"; she's gone and Gura is the incarnation as how she wants to be now.

Takodachi said:
2nd, my favourite being Kiara
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[confused noises]

Cubanodun said:
Gura is a strange case of study even when she is the most popular subscribers wise, she is the one that had the less interactivity with chat, you can notice that with her refusal to use Twitter, to collab with anyone outside of her gen (and the times that happen are incredibly odd like when was the last time? with shion?) doesn't do superchats, and she mostly carry chat with the interactions instead of being chat pulling her leg like it use to happen, she is a oddity, if you compare it with the queens of banter in the company like Watame and Rushia
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less interactivity with chat - She interacts with chat a normal amount as far as I've seen, maybe even indulges them too much.
you can notice that with her refusal to use Twitter - Twitter is a cesspool and I don't really mind that too much. But I think it is that she just really isn't a social media type personality who feels they have to constantly post crap just to be validated.
collab with anyone outside of her gen - Partially true, but I think she's been working on it. She still is pretty shy around the JP since she doesn't really speak it, as are the others who don't (Ame, somewhat Ina & Calli, Fauna, Mumei, Kronii). She does interact quite a bit though now that there are more EN members and has seemed to hit it off with the others in Council.
doesn't do superchats - Huh? Not sure what you mean here, but she reads superchats usually at the end of streams.
As for the rest, it just reiterated the first point, which again I think it is fine and not any big point either way.

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Numberfags get the rope
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Ummm.... time to go now!
 
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Jesas. Funny thing is that there is a lot of Soppo in it.
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To keep it on topic, I tried this one, turned out kinda cool:
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Is that the Cursed Pippa image in the middle....?
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Uruka did a karaoke stream and sang Super Idol. Enough people memed social credit deposits that the mods got a stick up their ass and shut that down. Good singing stream as always from the blue bear, even if she was hacking up a lung every few minutes.

She also tried her best with Numa Numa and Despacito despite not knowing the languages.
 
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I was out for a week so here's a random reaction to the happened
  • Kizuna Ai will go on indefinite hiatus. She's my first dip into this shitshow so that's a bit bummed. Hope she keep her promise of coming back with shinier coating.
  • Various 3D event and outfits reveal. All cool. I especially like Flare's redesign (no more ching influence heck yes) and Mori's classy evening dress.
  • Fucking Nux collab with Kson REEEEE. Jeez, she doesn't lie when she said nothing is off the table. Seems the hate-boner reaction from her own always-supportive fanbase surprise her quite a bit though. Took almost a week off for that, on top of the sudden break due to her eye infection and the "give time to a friend" thing.
  • Suisei's collab with penis-havers. Another REEE. Joking. Glad the HoloStars get another boost. I never would have expect Suisei to collab with them due to her never mention it before, but color me surprise. I'm hyped for the song drop in a few hour.
 
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Off course said:
Is Gura more popular than Hatsune Miku with gen z? Like, would they recognize gura first?
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comparing apples to oranges here, miku's had over 10 years in the spotlight and connects more with people, she's basically the first vsinger in terms of concerts.

plus they haven't turned gura into a tranny yet
 
Seems like cover have put up a company policy about karaoke streams as a pre-emptive reaction to the whole YouTube DMCA garbage.

But as a company that pushes the musical idol thing so hard even for talents like Noel and Ina who aren't really gifted with singing, how do you do that without being able to sing on stream? Not everyone is going to be able to buy tickets for concerts all the time.
 
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Is Gura more popular than Hatsune Miku with gen z? Like, would they recognize gura first?
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Personally, I doubt it. VTubers are still niche - Gura is massive in this sphere but there are random streamers with way more subs than her who the vast majority of zoomers do not know about even if their audiences are mostly late millenial/gen z (basically the demographic that HoloEN is getting). As an example, Sykkuno's got 3.71 million followers on Twitch and 2.64 million subscribers on YT and I'd never heard of the guy until he was in a collab with Elira. My assumption would be that Hatsune Miku still has more name recognition with gen z by virtue of not only still being the most famous vocaloid character but also due to how many memes she's ended up in.
 
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