New political sperging sticker? - 🗿🗿🗿

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Why the FUCK are we allowing it's use IN POLITICAL THREADS? Are we seriously penalizing people for talking politics in political threads now? So far, all it's been is a shit fling for people against politics they disagree with.
First people wanted them gone. Then they wanted them back.

Now that they're back, they are mad and want them gone again. Where the fuck is that image... not here... not there... ah! Here it is.

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You've become Nintendo fans and Miyamoto is sick of you.
 
First people wanted them gone. Then they wanted them back.

Now that they're back, they are mad and want them gone again. Where the fuck is that image... not here... not there... ah! Here it is.
I never wanted them gone. Hell, son, I don't even think I signed on to this chickenshit outfit until after that first vote was held.
 
cuz it's fucking gay and ruins everything retard
Including, ya know, actual political threads?

Fer fuck's sake, dear leader, if you wanted to just nuke politics on this site there's far less roundabout ways to do it.

Kiwi Farms; the free speech site that penalizes you for talking about politics in political threads.
 
Including, ya know, actual political threads?

Fer fuck's sake, dear leader, if you wanted to just nuke politics on this site there's far less roundabout ways to do it.

Kiwi Farms; the free speech site that penalizes you for talking about politics in political threads.
I mean maybe if they all figured it out, then it'd stop. But nope. Haters gonna keep on hating and being dumbasses for using anti-political ratings in political threads.

I'm not worried for myself here (personally, I could use some more neg ratings), I'm more worried about everyone else.
 
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I'm not sure that the current sticker system creates the incentives one would want.

There's just one dimension to the social credit score, which broadly measures a number of things:
  • Ability to identify the culture of the site and adhere to it.
  • Ability to identify the political leaning of each thread and agree with the users who frequent it.
  • Ability to make good posts.
  • Not being a lolcow.
  • Ability to harvest likes from off-topic discussion boards - which are essentially an entirely different site glommed onto Kiwi Farms by virtue of the old school internet culture here at KF. If that's something the site admin wants, then they should consider it.
  • One's political leaning, ideally in a manner which encourages engagement (calling one another fascists, Nazis, homosexual, libtards, etc).
The issues with this are:
  • There aren't measurements for each dimension that you want or don't want on the site.
  • There aren't stickers that affect multiple measurements, or multiple stickers per post to judge a post based on these measurements.
  • There aren't completely separate stickers for each board that correlate with the culture or purpose of that board, or in the case of Off-Topic the lack of a purpose. If your sticker scores for the On-Topic boards are nil and those for the Off-Topic boards are very high, then other users should be able to know this and let it reflect on any poor posts you make in the On-Topic boards.
  • The lack of multiple measurement dimensions means that it's hard to categorize a user based only on their social credit score. A better set of metrics with which users could rate one another's posts would allow users and moderators to quickly categorize other users. If combined with achievements based on those metrics and improved user tools could allow other users to do things, like ignore rampant A&H posters, quickly spot (by KF standards) obsessive weirdos and gayops, identify vote brigaders, and identify good candidates for the staff and moderation teams.
There are a number of problems with implementing this, the biggest of which are limited time/resources, more pressing matters, and designing it to be backwards compatible with the existing stickers.

The simplest thing to do would be to make 3 scores:
  1. On-Topic: the same as normal but only measured by ratings for posts in the On-Topic boards.
  2. Off-Topic: same as above, but convert the existing ratings to very similar ones (pull out your thesaurus) for the Off-Topic boards that aren't Autistic Thunderdome.
  3. Short Bus: ditto, but with ratings that simultaneously reward the user for making relevant posts while also ridiculing them for wasting precious hosting resources.
Furthermore, you could encourage people to donate by reducing the effect of negative stickers by 1 if they donate money. And give "boosters" that allow them access to an advanced user control panel that lets them do things like ignore people with specific metrics or achievements, automatically follow people, or automatically negrate all posts (up to a certain amount of posts per amount of money donated) certain users make. You could also limit stickers given to certain amount within a certain time rating, based on number of posts, based on sticker rating, and all of those plus the amount and frequency of money donated.
 
I'm not sure that the current sticker system creates the incentives one would want.

There's just one dimension to the social credit score, which broadly measures a number of things:
  • Ability to identify the culture of the site and adhere to it.
  • Ability to identify the political leaning of each thread and agree with the users who frequent it.
  • Ability to make good posts.
  • Not being a lolcow.
  • Ability to harvest likes from off-topic discussion boards - which are essentially an entirely different site glommed onto Kiwi Farms by virtue of the old school internet culture here at KF. If that's something the site admin wants, then they should consider it.
  • One's political leaning, ideally in a manner which encourages engagement (calling one another fascists, Nazis, homosexual, libtards, etc).
The issues with this are:
  • There aren't measurements for each dimension that you want or don't want on the site.
  • There aren't stickers that affect multiple measurements, or multiple stickers per post to judge a post based on these measurements.
  • There aren't completely separate stickers for each board that correlate with the culture or purpose of that board, or in the case of Off-Topic the lack of a purpose. If your sticker scores for the On-Topic boards are nil and those for the Off-Topic boards are very high, then other users should be able to know this and let it reflect on any poor posts you make in the On-Topic boards.
  • The lack of multiple measurement dimensions means that it's hard to categorize a user based only on their social credit score. A better set of metrics with which users could rate one another's posts would allow users and moderators to quickly categorize other users. If combined with achievements based on those metrics and improved user tools could allow other users to do things, like ignore rampant A&H posters, quickly spot (by KF standards) obsessive weirdos and gayops, identify vote brigaders, and identify good candidates for the staff and moderation teams.
There are a number of problems with implementing this, the biggest of which are limited time/resources, more pressing matters, and designing it to be backwards compatible with the existing stickers.

The simplest thing to do would be to make 3 scores:
  1. On-Topic: the same as normal but only measured by ratings for posts in the On-Topic boards.
  2. Off-Topic: same as above, but convert the existing ratings to very similar ones (pull out your thesaurus) for the Off-Topic boards that aren't Autistic Thunderdome.
  3. Short Bus: ditto, but with ratings that simultaneously reward the user for making relevant posts while also ridiculing them for wasting precious hosting resources.
Furthermore, you could encourage people to donate by reducing the effect of negative stickers by 1 if they donate money. And give "boosters" that allow them access to an advanced user control panel that lets them do things like ignore people with specific metrics or achievements, automatically follow people, or automatically negrate all posts (up to a certain amount of posts per amount of money donated) certain users make. You could also limit stickers given to certain amount within a certain time rating, based on number of posts, based on sticker rating, and all of those plus the amount and frequency of money donated.
This is a lot of analysis for a number no one gives a shit about. It's not like your score is constantly displaying below your name; autists have to choose to look at their score and get mad about it.
 
This is a lot of analysis for a number no one gives a shit about. It's not like your score is constantly displaying below your name; autists have to choose to look at their score and get mad about it.
The point is to drive engagement in order to get people to donate money, while making it into a game for users that rewards them for making good and useful posts.
 
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