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[Getting tard comed]

I am curious actually.

If you get infected by COVID first, get natural immunity, then take the "vaccines," I would imagine OAS doesn't apply. Right?

Don't think so. IAMAS but pretty sure the data is showing if you catch the coof, then get vaxxed, the vaxx actually destroys your natural immunity.

According to Denniger.

 

[MadStan]

I know this is going to come across as conspiracy but I can't help but feel the reaction of governments to Omicron smells of something else. It is way over the top given what we've been told and know. More over the top than anything to date.

It is very hard to weaponize a virus - sure you can genetically modify them to make them more lethal, but the real trick of a weaponized virus is to be capable of spreading very very quickly, and killing. Omicron is the first variant that has the ability spread like water.

In labs you have lots of lethal viruses, but giving them the ability to spread very quickly is a real trick because there are billions of combinations and you do not know which one will give you this ability to transmit with ease.

So Omicron could be weaponized to make it more lethal - yet spread just as quick and I wonder if the governments are trying to vaccinate because they know either this is a possibility or a reality already.

if Omicron was weaponized it would not need a delivery system like Anthrax or others - people are the factories.

Crazy talk, thinking aloud.

 

[Hippopatumus]

I know this is going to come across as conspiracy but I can't help but feel the reaction of governments to Omicron smells of something else. It is way over the top given what we've been told and know. More over the top than anything to date.

It is very hard to weaponize a virus - sure you can genetically modify them to make them more lethal, but the real trick of a weaponized virus is to be capable of spreading very very quickly, and killing. Omicron is the first variant that has the ability spread like water.

In labs you have lots of lethal viruses, but giving them the ability to spread very quickly is a real trick because there are billions of combinations and you do not know which one will give you this ability to transmit with ease.

So Omicron could be weaponized to make it more lethal - yet spread just as quick and I wonder if the governments are trying to vaccinate because they know either this is a possibility or a reality already.

if Omicron was weaponized it would not need a delivery system like Anthrax or others - people are the factories.

Crazy talk, thinking aloud.

It's a cold.

 

[borsabil]

A TB outbreak? What the actual fuck? Is Manhattan turning into 19th century London? I'm sure this has nothing to do with making people wear dirty masks all day.

I know this is going to come across as conspiracy but I can't help but feel the reaction of governments to Omicron smells of something else. It is way over the top given what we've been told and know. More over the top than anything to date.

It is very hard to weaponize a virus - sure you can genetically modify them to make them more lethal, but the real trick of a weaponized virus is to be capable of spreading very very quickly, and killing. Omicron is the first variant that has the ability spread like water.

In labs you have lots of lethal viruses, but giving them the ability to spread very quickly is a real trick because there are billions of combinations and you do not know which one will give you this ability to transmit with ease.

So Omicron could be weaponized to make it more lethal - yet spread just as quick and I wonder if the governments are trying to vaccinate because they know either this is a possibility or a reality already.

if Omicron was weaponized it would not need a delivery system like Anthrax or others - people are the factories.

Crazy talk, thinking aloud.

If Omicron was causing ADE in the vaccinated it would be showing up in MASSIVE hospitalisation and mortality. Overwhelmingly the main symptoms being reported are a scratchy throat, a runny nose and feeling a bit rundown for a couple of days. In the days of yore, in the olden times of 2019, we called such things 'a cold'. Fucking hell by most accounts it's not even a bad cold and chances are it's not even killed a deathfat or a 100 year old nursing home patient yet.

Saying all that it does seem that the vaccinated are way, way more likely to catch it. You can tell by the media's absolute refusal to discuss how the dirty unjabbed are fairing when they catch it, probably because they aren't catching it. Remember this when they claim that the booster still offers "75% protection against severe disease". The obvious question 75% protection compared to what exactly? What's the risk of severe disease? What's the risk to the naturally immune and unjabbed? They're pulling these numbers out of their assholes, but what's new?

 

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Frankly I'm glad Omicron is here - it is just what we needed, a sweeping, mild infection that will likely impart a good dose of immunity and work through the population quick enough so that we can call it a real wave.

Only if you haven't got vaxxed. If you're vaxxed, Omicron won't give you immunity because your body is targeting the spike protien, not the virus.

 

[MadStan]

Only if you haven't got vaxxed. If you're vaxxed, Omicron won't give you immunity because your body is targeting the spike protien, not the virus.

That is incorrect.

 

[Gorilla Tessellator]

I have to say that I am getting so fucking mad as the restrictions are implemented over a cold. This is insanity I would love to stay away from, because it's clear that there is something else behind it. Maybe they really try to kill us? For my mental health, I shouldn't watch any news or read any forums, but at the same time it's hard not to. You want to know what happens next, what else they will invent to make our lives more miserable. I was planning to go for a short trip to Europe in January, I guess I was a retarded optimist when I booked my tickets some weeks ago, but they had to invent a new variant, because the vaccine of course don't work.

 

[Male Idiot]

So you shouldn't. Yet here you are.

"I'm calling it woke based on no evidence so I don't have to listen to it"

It clearly isn't healthy at every size
See, if you're tall and 55kg you're underweight. Clearly not healthy at every size. Or if you go up to 80kg you are overweight. Again not healthy at every size. This is the heart foundation not some SJW thing to make people comfortable.

Maybe I should play around with it to find out how short a dude has to be to be overweight at 70 kg




That is overweight but not horrific.....


I was skinny as a kid yet still had a paunch, it comes sometimes in kids due to malnutrition. Or lack of exercise. You can be small and skinny yet still be unhealthy.

But hey you said your relative is a doctor if he says your fat, you're fat. Just lay off any alcohol or smoking, eat right and exercise. It's something that while isn't healthy it just needs effort.

I don't think Americans were totally slim before SJWs. I think it is a loooong process and it just shifted the Overfat window. I'm 175 so ... according to google 5-9 on american and around 61 to 76 for american values.
So I was around 9 kilos over the ideal. Now I'm around 85 so I think 170 pounds. So I would need to loose even at best around 20 pounds. You can write this off as an anorexia fetish made by soviet times and than reinforced by western magazines.

I can't exercise due to a spine injury, or I wouldn't be fat at all. At least I got lucky, I only had to spend half a year out of the workforce. A kid in school got it, and he was off for a week every 2 months. And he was skinny as fuck. The argument could be made that I could starve out a nice diet, but than my work performance would also plummet which would be... not good at all, since I would be jewed out of my pay.

This is a slim girl:

This is too slim, taken from anorexia search:

When your arms start to assume that cartoon bone shape with the joints it is considered too slim.

Honestly Japan is one place I'd be okay using such an app. It's totally useless, pointless and unworkable. But I legitimately trust the nips not to be actively working against their own populace enough to pretend that it's actually doing something out of a sense of civil respect.

Japan and Israel are propably the two countries you can count on not to shoah their ethnic populations. They are also smart and efficient enough to make the app not do a shamefur dispray and crash on day 1, which I would fully expect from a western one.

 

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That is incorrect.

That is literally OAS, isn't it?

 

[XANA]

It's great that the media is still harping on the vaccinated being unable to spread the virus (if they catch Covid post-inoculation) when it's not true. The vaccines have been proven to not affect transmissibility at all. The only thing the vaccines can demonstrably prove in a positive way is reducing the chance of death/serious symptoms in people over 50 years of age.

 

[teriyakiburns]

So I was around 9 kilos over the ideal. Now I'm around 85 so I think 170 pounds.

85kg is 188lb.

This is a slim girl:

That's a matchstick. Less muscle tone than a sack of flour.

 

[Meriasek]

By the old rule of thumb I'd be 15 kg over the "ideal" weight, with a BMI of 26. That happens very fast if you just go to the gym regularly, muscles are just denser than fat. Numbers like that are meaningless without context.

Anyway, Germany is going apeshit over the potential of Omicron, because of course, and the spindoctors are out in force trying to control the narrative after two states were shown to have fudged their numbers. Current narrative focus is mixing up correlation and causality by simply pointing out that the regions with lower vaccination rates have higher incidences, completely neglecting geographical influences and the simple fact that if the states lie about some numbers, why wouldn't they lie about others.

 

[Honka Honka Burning Love]

A TB outbreak? What the actual fuck? Is Manhattan turning into 19th century London? I'm sure this has nothing to do with making people wear dirty masks all day.

Sanfran Had the literal plague a few years ago.

 

[Male Idiot]

85kg is 188lb.


That's a matchstick. Less muscle tone than a sack of flour.

Women don't need muscles. Muscles are for men. Only leftists insist on muscular females, that and weebs with a certain fetish type.

 

[chiobu]

Best not to gather if you don't know people's vaxx statuses guys!

 

[Dude Snakes]

You just know they'd be putting it in the headline were he not.


I wanna travel, I want to go to Japan, but I don't want the jabby, dammit.

I do too but hang tight, do not take the jab it's not worth it.

 

[Vince McMahon]

ACKSHUALLY

 

[teriyakiburns]

Women don't need muscles. Muscles are for men. Only leftists insist on muscular females, that and weebs with a certain fetish type.

Muscular and muscle tone are different things. This whole slim, sheltered tradwife doll you're chasing is a fantasy created by the upper classes, to demoralise and control the workers. I'm not talking about some fetishistic fantasy either, but only about whether the woman can carry her own weight. If she can't slin a sheep across her shoulders and carry it a half mile back to its field then she's not worth getting to know.

Frankly, I'd be surprised it that one could lift her own hands with those wet noodles she's using for arms.

 

[George Lucas]

I tend to agree that the government is pretty authoritarian, and the general populace is pretty content to follow what they decide is the correct course of action. The double edged sword here is that the government has no recognized legal power to limit individual rights. They can set penalties to businesses, but the businesses are free to make their choice. Meaning businesses can and will wring you harder than the government might have. All "mandates" in Japan have been requests, anyways.

You may have seen in the news that the government told Japanese airlines to limit, and then stop, bookings from overseas, including to Japanese citizens trying to return for New Year's holiday. The airlines turned around and told them to get fucked.

This also means companies and restaurants get to set their own terms for safety precautions. When I booked for Christmas, most said you only had to have vaccine information for parties of 10 or more people. And when the government limited the sale of alcohol, the bars realized they easily covered the fines by just operating normally (because chains tended to follow the rules more strictly, so bars were the only place to get alcohol).

So I'm trying to be cautiously optimistic. A lot of people seem to think things might go downhill after New Year's though. I'm hoping the "poor" effectiveness of Novavax against the Decepticons omicron won't be held against it here, since the 60% quoted earlier is probably miles above the Pfizer/Moderna boosters anyways.

Are you telling me Japan is a more free country than America?

MacArthur, you son of a bitch!

 

[Billy Beer]

Best not to gather if you don't know people's vaxx statuses guys!

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Coming from the same guy who says 2 jabs isn't enough to stop omicron?