US Joe Biden News Megathread - The Other Biden Derangement Syndrome Thread (with a side order of Fauci Derangement Syndrome)

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Let's pretend for one moment that he does die before the election, just for the funsies. What happens then? Will the nomination revert to option number 2, aka Bernie Sanders? Or will his running mate automatically replace him just the way Vice-President is supposted to step in after the Big Man in the White House chokes on a piece of matzo? Does he even have a running mate yet?
 
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Look, do what I'm doing. Leave the north. Just get the fuck out. Leftoids and their controllers want you dead, in jail, or totally under their thumbs. This is a practice run for "You will own nothing/you will live in the pod/you will eat the insect protein and you will like it, subject"...

It's never going to end. I'm not a guy who thinks that COVID was invented to infect people with 5g or whatever the fuck. But I'm smart enough to see the dems seizing on this year after year to beat down people and brother it's working. If the average non-politishit person in DC isn't up in arms and just flat out refusing this mandate, then that's just encouragement for other people like Lori Lightfoot, the whole state government of California, Washington, Oregon, etc., to do the same thing.

Meanwhile Florida, Texas, Alabama, etc. are open for business and there's nothing they or Biden can do to stop it down there.
 
What tickles me pink is that I am about 98% sure of what happened here. On the surface, it looks like Manchin slapped his demands onto Biden's table, made him capitulate, and even while Biden was capitulating he was nuking the deal. This is hilarious but unintentional.

What likely happened was that the Democrats leaned too fucking hard on Manchin. His last proposal would have been a hesitant hail mary, an attempt to bridge the gap. The problem for the Democrats was that he had an interview right after... and that would mean he had to stop and stew in everything he compromised too much on in that proposal. He had a chance to stew in how hard they pushed him. He had a chance to think about it, think how he'd phrase it to someone else. think of how he'd -defend- himself in that interview.

And he realized at some point it had all gone too far. He had been pushed too far.

The interview was probably going to be him describing what was in his final compromise offer, what it became was a man angry he had been pushed to the point of compromising too much, and therefore he made up his mind to nuke it right then and there.
 
Look, do what I'm doing. Leave the north. Just get the fuck out. Leftoids and their controllers want you dead, in jail, or totally under their thumbs. This is a practice run for "You will own nothing/you will live in the pod/you will eat the insect protein and you will like it, subject"...

It's never going to end. I'm not a guy who thinks that COVID was invented to infect people with 5g or whatever the fuck. But I'm smart enough to see the dems seizing on this year after year to beat down people and brother it's working. If the average non-politishit person in DC isn't up in arms and just flat out refusing this mandate, then that's just encouragement for other people like Lori Lightfoot, the whole state government of California, Washington, Oregon, etc., to do the same thing.

Meanwhile Florida, Texas, Alabama, etc. are open for business and there's nothing they or Biden can do to stop it down there.
Been thinking about bouncing from Massachusetts to Georgia, actually. And guess what's motivating me to do it faster? New bitch tornado Mayor Wu of Boston is now issuing a vaccine mandate for indoor businesses starting January 15th.

Fuck. That. Noise.
 
Lmaooooooo :story:

Manchin to Dems: Redo the whole thing, maybe I'll vote for it​

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The West Virginia senator wants a new bill that goes through Senate committees and focuses on rolling back the 2017 Trump tax cuts.

Joe Manchin has some advice for fellow Democrats: rebuild Build Back Better and you might still get my vote.

One day after sinking President Joe Biden’s signature social and climate spending legislation, Manchin (D-W.Va.) laid out a path forward that could take months and still fail. He wants the legislation to go through Senate committees and focus on rolling back the 2017 Trump tax cuts. He also wants Democrats to stop trying to force him into compliance.

“I knew what they could and could not do. They just never realized it, because they figure surely to God we can move one person. Surely, we can badger and beat one person up,” Manchin said on West Virginia MetroNews, his first response to the blowback he’s taken from the White House and Democrats for tanking Biden’s signature legislation.

He added: “Well, guess what? I'm from West Virginia. I'm not from where they're from, [where] they can just beat the living crap out of people and think they’ll be submissive.”

Manchin advised Democrats to put legislation through committee to have any chance of success, saying party leaders spurned his requests to do so on the $1.9 trillion coronavirus aid bill. That bill passed on a party-line vote via budget reconciliation, but Manchin said that’s not going to happen again without the committee process.

“I won't continue to go down everything you want to do, major policy changes and reconciliation. It needs to go through a process,” Manchin added. The House held committee hearings for the legislation, the Senate has not.

Manchin’s comments on Monday put him directly at odds with Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer, who is mulling other tactics. Schumer sent a letter to members Monday morning saying he’ll put the $1.7 trillion education, childcare, climate and tax reform bill to a floor vote, "so that every member of this body has the opportunity to make their position known on the Senate floor, not just on television."

Many Democrats called for such a vote after Manchin announced he could not support the legislation.

"We are going to vote on a revised version of the House-passed Build Back Better Act — and we will keep voting on it until we get something done," Schumer said Monday.

It’s a risky gambit, given the tension between Manchin and other Democrats. Manchin clearly wants to take weeks, if not months, to craft another bill that would means-test benefits and shrink the number of programs in the package to cover a 10-year budget window. But many Democrats take that as just another delay, since Manchin still hasn’t definitively committed to passing new legislation. '

And if relations are somewhat tense between longtime allies Schumer and Manchin, it’s much worse a few blocks up Pennsylvania Avenue, where White House press secretary Jen Psaki accused Manchin of breaking his word to the president on Sunday. That move cheered many Democrats frustrated with Manchin, but prompted a new level of animosity between the West Virginia Democrat and the West Wing, which can't afford to alienate Manchin in a 50-50 Senate.

Manchin cast doubt on Biden’s Thursday statement that the two could continue negotiating to get an agreement, saying of Biden: “He knew we couldn’t get there.” He otherwise did not directly criticize the president on Monday, but did light up White House staff.

“I just got to the wit’s end. And they know the real reason what happened. They won’t tell you, and I’m not going to tell you,” Manchin said. “It’s not the president, it’s the staff. They drove some things and they put some things out that were absolutely inexcusable."

Manchin’s comments appear to be a response to reporting last week that he opposed including the expanded child tax credit in the legislation. Manchin later clarified he didn’t want the bill to end the program after one year if the rest of his party was banking on it becoming permanent. The dispute was critical to Manchin's position since he set a topline spending number of $1.75 trillion; a 10-year expanded tax credit at current levels would eat up nearly all that money and invalidate analyses that said the package's programs were fully funded. The credit expires this month.

Schumer and Manchin both signed a document in July that showed Manchin wanted a $1.5 trillion bill with less generous benefits than envisioned by the rest of his party, including far more targeted child tax credits to families with low and moderate incomes. He said no matter how Democrats tried to shape the bill to fit into that mold, it never came close to his bottom line.

“We've been way far apart philosophically,” Manchin said. “The same bill I have in front of me right now that they kept putting in front of me, was the same $6 trillion bill from the beginning."

Senate Democrats will discuss the party’s plight on Tuesday evening, a special virtual caucus meeting on the longest night of the year. And if there’s a bright spot for Democrats in all this, it’s that Manchin is still committed to rolling back the 2017 tax cuts signed by President Donald Trump.

In fact, Manchin said the only reason he even voted this summer for a $3.5 trillion budget resolution, which paved the way for Democrats to continue negotiating the bill, was because he was so eager to “to fix the taxes so that everybody paid their fair share."

“We have one chance at this, OK? You have a chance to fix the tax code that makes it fair and equitable,” Manchin said. “So if we all disagree with Republicans’ reconciliation on tax cuts, don't you think we can sit down and fix a fair and equitable tax code?”

Yet in a 50-50 Senate, even that isn't simple. Though Manchin’s proposals to raise corporate taxes and taxes on the wealthy are widely popular among Democratic senators, Sen. Kyrsten Sinema (D-Ariz.) opposed the rate increases that Manchin supports. She hasn't commented since Manchin shot down Biden's vision.
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"One day after sinking President Joe Biden’s signature social and climate spending legislation, Manchin (D-W.Va.) laid out a path forward that could take months and still fail. He wants the legislation to go through Senate committees and focus on rolling back the 2017 Trump tax cuts. He also wants Democrats to stop trying to force him into compliance.

“I knew what they could and could not do. They just never realized it, because they figure surely to God we can move one person. Surely, we can badger and beat one person up,” Manchin said on West Virginia MetroNews, his first response to the blowback he’s taken from the White House and Democrats for tanking Biden’s signature legislation.

He added: “Well, guess what? I'm from West Virginia. I'm not from where they're from, [where] they can just beat the living crap out of people and think they’ll be submissive.”"

100% certain of what I just said, since he all but just outright said it.
 
This claim from you is blatant bullshit.

1. The claim you have repeated is from a book. There's no verification of that claim (that he was kicked out for hitting on another member's daughter).
2. Epstein was banned by Trump a few months before he pleaded guilty. His case was ongoing for some time with charges known before his eviction from the club... he attended for many months without any problems from Trump. Epstein was, coincidentally, provided with under-aged towel girls while at Mar-a-largo all the while. If recollection serves, a towel girl was the actual victim of Epstein.
3. Trump knew of Epstein's proclivities for almost 20 years.
4. Rumor has it (same source as the book claim, unverified) that their falling out was over property they both had an eye on, and Epstein won, pissing Trump off.

Believe whichever reason you'd like (maybe both are true?), but know that Trump didn't kick out Epstein for being a pederast, he knew damn well what he was, just like Billy Clinton, Alan Dershowitz (I kept my underwear on!!!), and the rest of his fan club.
That's easy, Goofy.

Democrats (which Trump was for 99% of his time with Epstein) have been up Epstein's ass from day one, too many prominent douchebags would go down with him. We're talking massive amounts of big money donors here.
OK, Mickey, riddle me this: if all of what you said above is true, why haven't the MSM/TPTB said anything about it yet?! You know damn well that the moment they found all this out, it would be plastered all over the news 24/7/365 in the run up to Election Day 2016/2020. Hard mode: no "well, they defended Bill Clinton/*insert famous political figure/celebrity here*!" They hate Trump's guts. Information like what you said above would be a God-send to them. And for that matter, has Ghislaine said anything about Orange Man's supposed involvement in their sick shit?

Just now catching up and I have some means of answering this:

If Trump even tried to accuse Epstein at that time of anything, without evidence or knowledge of a police investigation, he would be sued into oblivion and we all know it.

It literally doesn’t matter how many big money donors go down if Trump gets to burn as well, the Dems literally believe that more money will magically manifest into the Clinton Foundation if they manage to get rid of Trump for good.

Trump’s 4th Amendment protection from unlawful searches was violated repeatedly during his presidency. They would have found something tying him to Epstein, there is no way whatsoever that Obama’s weaponizing of the feds to stop Trump’s campaign would miss that mark. There’s incompetence, there’s clown world, but neither could excuse that big of a blunder.

In short, the feds would have eaten Trump alive before Election Day.
 
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