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FatalTater said:
You want Harris for president? 'Cuz if Joe carks it, you get Harris for president.
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It's a starting point, not my final destination, but I would still love to see quintuple vaxxed and masked Biden still die of being near that guy. It would rustle the apple cart.

Kamala would probably just spend her whole presidency hiding under her desk. I think she's failed her way upward beyond her competency. Seeing her do anything would be kind of... shocking?
 
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Interesting news for UK kiwis. Also interesting for Euro Kiwis and several paragraphs in there is a sentence, or two, putting Sage in its place.

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Lunchtime update in The Spectator

What happened in cabinet By Katy Balls

When Boris Johnson held a cabinet call yesterday afternoon, the expectation was that an announcement on new restrictions would be imminent. But the meeting dragged on for three hours and the Prime Minister emerged afterwards announcing that nothing had changed. The situation is ‘extremely difficult’ and arguments both for and against restrictions are ‘finely balanced’ so the government would ‘keep its eye on the data’. In a battle of Sage forecasts vs data realists, the latter had won. For now.

So what happened in that meeting? ‘Boris did a great job and encouraged a proper discussion and respected other views,’ says one minister. ‘He had quite a lot [of] humility’. Michael Gove was, as usual, leading the arguments for more lockdown. But this was based on Sage forecasts of what might happen which have lost some credibility in the eyes of cabinet members who were — for the first time in a while — genuinely being consulted.

Chris Whitty started off with a presentation making the case for restrictions (yet he stopped just short of calling for them directly). But several members of Johnson’s cabinet are vocally opposed to new restrictions. They argue that there needs to be clearer data before any restrictions are brought in — with whispers of resignations if Johnson pressed on without this. These members of government hope that more time (even a few more days) will offer clarity that could show Omicron is milder than previous variants.

Behind the scenes, the Chancellor is understood to have played a key role in warning against rushing into decisions that could cost billions — although he was quieter in the meeting, only giving his thoughts when asked directly to by the Prime Minister. Other ministers keen to see more modelling include Kwasi Kwarteng, Commons leader Jacob Rees-Mogg (who highlighted how people can reduce their travel without being under lockdown orders) and Transport Secretary Grant Shapps (‘although it was never quite clear what he was saying,’ I’m told). Other ministers have been pressing on Johnson that any new measures are guidance, not law.

When Johnson emerged, talking about the need to wait for the data to work out Omicron’s severity, he was using the language of those who opposed lockdown. They argue, in effect, that Sage models cannot be trusted as they are composed of hypotheticals with a negativity bias baked in. The next few days of hospital data, it’s argued, will tell us much about how severe Omicron is and if lockdown is needed. Data is emerging not just from South Africa (where cases now seem to be falling) but Denmark where Omicron has been found to be significantly less likely to put patients in hospital.

Yet there remains a sense in government that, on the current direction of travel, restrictions are still more likely than not — it is just a question of when. Civil servants have been working on plans for a two-week ‘circuit breaker’ after Christmas. The fact that Sajid Javid said on Sunday that any new measures would have to be put to parliament before being implemented suggests that Christmas day could avoid being affected by new measures. Instead, it’s more likely that the measures will be brought in from 28 December.
 
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Ok, so in summary

>free tests
>uh military helping and stuff

Did I miss anything? Literally too bitch mode to force the airlines to require id... er vaccine passes lmao.
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I think that was all? At the least maybe if a bunch of false positives or mild cases raise the numbers to the sky, but the death rate doesn't follow suit even the government might have to calm its tits?
 
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They need the tests, and preferably the false positives, to keep the fear a at least a low simmer. Especially now that the CDC admitted something we knew a year and a half ago -- the PCR tests are 100% bullshit.

Wonder if they're also getting other metrics from this. "These people on the census have no history of a test at a hospital or at home." "People in this area are getting their free test at X percent."
 
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Rei is shit said:
Ok, so in summary

>free tests
>uh military helping and stuff

Did I miss anything? Literally too bitch mode to force the airlines to require id... er vaccine passes lmao.
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tldr on the Biden speech
- GET VACCINATED GET VACCINATED GET VACCINATED
- Unvaccinated people are at severe risk of death
- He did not repeal any civil rights this time
- He coughed throughout the speech (was exposed to coof yesterday hmm)
- Did the weird "lean in and whisper" thing several times
- Federal government is now getting into the business of medical diagnostic testing
- He struggled to form coherent intonation because he was reading the telepompter but not processing the words
- He said cable TV is spreading lies and misinformation (??)
- He took some softball pre-scripted questions from the "press"
- He said after BBB was killed stock prices went way down

(S&P 500 1-month chart):

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All this concern about tests but not about treatment makes me think of a bit that a comedian did back in the day, about being in the shower and hearing a noise. You look around the shower curtain, as if seeing an intruder is going to make them go, "Oh well ya got me. I'll leave now."
 
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FatalTater said:
All this concern about tests but not about treatment makes me think of a bit that a comedian did back in the day, about being in the shower and hearing a noise. You look around the shower curtain, as if seeing an intruder is going to make them go, "Oh well ya got me. I'll leave now."
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They'll even test your corpse if they have to.
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Those are hate facts
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"We choose truth over facts."
 
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