Has search gotten worse?

Is the quality of web search results getting worse?

  • Yes

    Votes: 1,184 94.3%
  • No

    Votes: 19 1.5%
  • IDK

    Votes: 52 4.1%

  • Total voters
    1,255
Google is fine for very basic searches but anything controversial is a huge pain. I remember trying to find a video played on the Killstream about the Yellow Vests when that was a thing and I couldn't find it on google or youtube after looking for ten plus minutes. Bing didn't do much better, but putting the first term I tried on youtube into Yandex gave me the video I was looking for as the first result as a link to youtube.
 
Google is fine for very basic searches but anything controversial is a huge pain. I remember trying to find a video played on the Killstream about the Yellow Vests when that was a thing and I couldn't find it on google or youtube after looking for ten plus minutes. Bing didn't do much better, but putting the first term I tried on youtube into Yandex gave me the video I was looking for as the first result as a link to youtube.
politics on google is "forget it" territory. That's actively censored on all fronts. Google doesn't, or at least SHOULDN'T have interest in obfuscating technical information that nobody political gives a dick about. Aside from the deepest conspiracy theories, one would have to assume that's from pure incompetence.
 
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lol.
 
There's so much of the internet that I know is out there but is seemingly impossible to access, even with specific search terms. At this point I don't think it's an accident.
I found a forum by accident several years ago, it was apparently focused on indie development because there was a game being discussed there, but even after trying every fucking thing I could imagine I couldn't find either the forum or the post itself. All I remember was that it was using Xenforo, so IDK maybe there's a registry on some website with all Xenforo instances ever available, that would be nifty.
 
There's so much of the internet that I know is out there but is seemingly impossible to access, even with specific search terms. At this point I don't think it's an accident.
How do people even find new websites these days? I have fleeting, dying memories of finding new stuff through affiliate links and webrings but nobody does that anymore. Web surfing was an actual pastime I could do, coasting along until I occasionally hit something cool that linked to something else, now everything is a dead end. The modern internet feels like a soulless city where the family stores have finally been choked out by all the big retail chains. But there is one silver lining - it's become such a corporate glorified adspace that I may finally choose to unplug and touch the grass outside. Fuck being online.
 
Tried to look up how they make cyan ink (in CMYK printing) - like the ingredients that goes into it.

All I could find instead was basic info on what CMYK is, with plenty of Quora.

Also a new natural cyan food colorant.

aaarrrggghhh...

(a similar thing happened when I tried to look up how pulsars or neutron stars end)
 
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Search is a pay to win system now.
There's an entire SEO industry that relies on search to be shitty. Corporations re optimize shit all the time just so they can sell the fix to get your SEO back up. The fact the first results on Google are paid ads tells you all you need to know. Search for "local company A" and "local company B" takes up the first 3 spots because they shelled out cash.

Because of SEO there's so much garbage content out there. Before if you had a technical problem you'd find blogs and forum posts from amazing autists, now you find cookie cutter lorem ipsum click funnels. Users are gaming the engines to drive views, engines are fucking up the search to sell the fix.

Anyone who wants certain content or info knows where to look. There's never going to be a case of finding some weird MIT student's blog with hand drawn 555 timer circuits again.
 
now you find cookie cutter lorem ipsum click funnels
Google actually fixed the previous iteration of this problem (link farms) by adjusting their PageRank algorithm and blacklisting offenders. But now they either can't or won't do the same with the next generation: spam wikis, blog mirrors, and forum aggregators.
 
I never thought about what happened to link farms, and I haven't seen one in ages. Fixing the current issues would be so much harder because arguably, it is valid content. Skim any SEO guide and you'll find the first tips are almost always "make content". SEO companies now do ghost writing and all kinds of shit. There's an infinite amount of 5 to 6 hundred word blog posts parroting one or two real talking points from a real source.

Used to be shit like financial or real estate blogs were written by sperg savants, now its people like Cathy Golderberg, Wichita's #5 realtor with a blog telling you to buy low and sell high.
It's technically valid, but actually worthless.
 
How do people even find new websites these days?
They don't.
I guess that's what corporations want. A centralized, corporate, sanitized, censored, dumbed down internet. With little alternatives that all suck - if there are any...

Like I said, they miss the days when they had control over mass media, like TV and radio. Back when it was a "big honor" for one of the "little people" to appear on TV.
 
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Search is a pay to win system now.
There's an entire SEO industry that relies on search to be shitty. Corporations re optimize shit all the time just so they can sell the fix to get your SEO back up. The fact the first results on Google are paid ads tells you all you need to know. Search for "local company A" and "local company B" takes up the first 3 spots because they shelled out cash.

Because of SEO there's so much garbage content out there. Before if you had a technical problem you'd find blogs and forum posts from amazing autists, now you find cookie cutter lorem ipsum click funnels. Users are gaming the engines to drive views, engines are fucking up the search to sell the fix.

Anyone who wants certain content or info knows where to look. There's never going to be a case of finding some weird MIT student's blog with hand drawn 555 timer circuits again.
It's this vicious cycle of people metagaming every imperfect innovation to death. The problem now is manipulating the language processing search engines do to appear as a "credible source", meaning everything has to have this page long Wikipedia introduction bullshit even when the relevant content is 3 sentences. Can you combat that somehow? Maybe, but something else will take its place. Like posting blatantly false factoids as novel information not found anywhere else, for example.
 
Search for specific terms on Google has been going down hill for more than a decade now.
It's so horrible. I was looking for specific function calls today in a programming language. Not a widely used library, so not a lot of results.

I could NOT get google to respect the quotes I was putting around the function names. It determined that there "weren't ENOUGH" results to return to me so it just genericized them and gave me a bunch of useless shit. I needed ONE results. EXACTLY THE ONE YOU HID FROM ME.
 
I never thought about what happened to link farms, and I haven't seen one in ages. Fixing the current issues would be so much harder because arguably, it is valid content. Skim any SEO guide and you'll find the first tips are almost always "make content".
I wonder if part of the problem is how much of the internet has been captured by iFaceTwitstagram. The death of the Web means that a lot of the link structure that fed into algorithms like PageRank doesn't exist anymore. Everything's just a post in an app now, and linking out to actual content is a speed bump. "Do you really want to leave YouGoog for unsafe content?"
 
Looking for information about certain parts of games used to be mostly unaffected by Google's "improvements". It's often more effort now than using old school Gamefaqs guides. The time I spent sifting through reviews and refining the search could have been used to just play the damn game.

This is much worse for games with remasters and remakes. God help you if you dare need help in a game that got a new coat of paint recently.
This is one of the few things I'm not sure can be blamed entirely on Google. The abuse of SEO is being taught in business on the regular and most of the reason you can't find shit on games is because of the tabloid article mills that pump their shit with tags to shove it to the top of every search. Think "GTA 6 REVEAL????" tier dumb asses.

Then again, it is entirely Google's fault for never filtering this shit, probably because these people pay for a bulk of their ad revenue too.
 
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