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God, this is so mind-meltingly stupid. A doctor decides whether someone's a boy or a girl. Biological reality doesn't exist. I guess that's the whole premise of "assigned male", but for some reason this particular comic really got to me. Just complete lunatic delusion presented as some kind of zinger.
 
God, this is so mind-meltingly stupid. A doctor decides whether someone's a boy or a girl. Biological reality doesn't exist. I guess that's the whole premise of "assigned male", but for some reason this particular comic really got to me. Just complete lunatic delusion presented as some kind of zinger.

I can't say if this is necessarily why, but this one's kind of twofold for me:

1. Stephie never actually answers the question, she just reverses it on Frank and puts him on the defensive. That's a pretty major component in most of Assigned Male, really; it never addresses what made Stephie realize she was trans, it always just flips the argument and implies that anybody who isn't was just gaslit by the doctor present at birth.
2. It depicts a predator taking advantage of a literal child's naivete and curiosity and is something that people actually do to the confused and isolated in order to indoctrinate them.

There's a visceral, manipulative wrongness to it. It's a bad argument when you're given a chance to think about it, but the premise behind this is to twist the narrative and make you think about your own 'decision' to identify as male or female and make it an imposition by a faceless doctor. It's to make you start questioning yourself instead of the actual argument, and this is a strip where it's not only only display, but also showing off a victim's reaction, and it's more insidious than the current strips just featuring Stephie/Ciel/Strawman of the Week shouting into a void.
 
I'll say it again:

WHAT WORLD DO THESE PEOPLE WANT TO LIVE IN?
I think the best representation would be the movie Surrogates. In that movie (and the graphic novel it was based on), people can pilot a body completely different from their actual body, and they could change these fake bodies like clothes.

I've seen trannies posit this on twitter: a transhuman or posthuman future where our sex- an integral part of our humanity, mind you- is simply something we can decide to wear for a day, like clothing.
 
But like in some ways it undermines its own argument.

Not to go 8d TERF here but what if... and I mean this is a BIG what if... we come up with a word to identify babies with penises and a different word to identify babies with vaginas and hey, it's okay if you're born with a penis but like to wear flowy garments but you're still a BOY because that's the word we put on babies born with dicks?

Being as we don't know how said babies will feel about their bodies when they are older but there are certain biological issues that the parents of "boys" and the parents of "girls" need to know in order to keep said children clean and healthy?

For people so concerned with semantics, these people are not interested in words having meaning.

(And this isn't a response to @Sexy Senior Citizen, I am just sperging for the sake of sperging.)
 
But like in some ways it undermines its own argument.

Not to go 8d TERF here but what if... and I mean this is a BIG what if... we come up with a word to identify babies with penises and a different word to identify babies with vaginas and hey, it's okay if you're born with a penis but like to wear flowy garments but you're still a BOY because that's the word we put on babies born with dicks?

Being as we don't know how said babies will feel about their bodies when they are older but there are certain biological issues that the parents of "boys" and the parents of "girls" need to know in order to keep said children clean and healthy?

For people so concerned with semantics, these people are not interested in words having meaning.

(And this isn't a response to @Sexy Senior Citizen, I am just sperging for the sake of sperging.)
At the end of the day, it's all wishful thinking. Biology cannot be overcome by hormones and surgery. The sexual dimorphism of humans is so deeply ingrained that it would take science akin to magic to change a person's sex. But Troons don't care about any of this. They want to be a big tittie anime girl, and gosh darn it, the world will acknowledge them as such!
 
At the end of the day, it's all wishful thinking. Biology cannot be overcome by hormones and surgery. The sexual dimorphism of humans is so deeply ingrained that it would take science akin to magic to change a person's sex. But Troons don't care about any of this. They want to be a big tittie anime girl, and gosh darn it, the world will acknowledge them as such!
The armpits on your avatar are very unsettling.

What price big titties?
 
For people so concerned with semantics, these people are not interested in words having meaning.

That's kind of the point.

Back when the concept of transgender was becoming more mainstream, there used to be a distinction between 'sex' and 'gender'; sex was the biological, internal reality of your body, while gender was how you wanted to be recognized socially. It acknowledged the distinction as important, because you still had to have your appropriate sex marker for medical purposes-- if you have prostate cancer but have 'female' on your medical forms, guess what the doctors aren't going to be looking for.

Now there's a conflation of meaning and an attempt to eradicate the concept of 'male' and 'female' (both of which are biological terms across the whole natural spectrum-- even plants have male and female components). It erases the whole concept of what a man and a woman is.

To bring it back to AM, that's why Stephie has to always change the subject and turn it into an abstract thought experiment; how does she know she's a girl? Well how do you know you're whatever the doctor said you are? And now it's incumbent on Frank to figure out what the definition of being male is and why he's male (and by extension, whatever audience who isn't already converted is supposed to question it).

It does break down if you acknowledge male and female in the scientific terms of possessing, respectively, the components necessary for the production of sperm/pollen and the components necessary for the production of eggs. But in this kind of conversation people aren't thinking in strict scientific terms and it's pretty easy to catch somebody who's asking questions in good faith to get caught up in that thought experiment, and in abstract, philosophical terms there is no answer.

And when you remember that LaBelle gives talks to children and markets these books to parents and schools for purposes of educating children, who don't have any scientific reference and are still developing abstract thought...
 
and if we put the shoe on a different foot..

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It does break down if you acknowledge male and female in the scientific terms of possessing, respectively,

I noticed that Sophie made his strawman steer away from that by framing even the assignment as merely arbitrary
"the doctor just picked it for me"
as if the doctor used no parameters
 
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To bring it back to AM, that's why Stephie has to always change the subject and turn it into an abstract thought experiment; how does she know she's a girl? Well how do you know you're whatever the doctor said you are? And now it's incumbent on Frank to figure out what the definition of being male is and why he's male (and by extension, whatever audience who isn't already converted is supposed to question it).
Purely argumentatively here, this is definitely correct, the burden of proof lies on Stephie since she was being asked the question. Turning it around as some sort of "gotcha" just reinforces how weak the point trying to be made is
 
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