DelusionTree
kiwifarms.net
- Joined
- Dec 16, 2019
This is true grifting, where the subscribers are conditioned into a whole mini griftosphere ecosystem. Its all designed to pressure the subs to shell out shekels at every turn and I'll bet John Goldman pays undercover community managers to pressure subs into the other schemes.What hamburger says about the Liminal Order is pretty much what I expected, you pay the fee for a chat room and to upsold crap like any fake guru how to be a millionaire thing out there. It reads just like any other scam out there, but what it did remind me of was that we know some of the stuff they're probably being upsold that he mentions, as we have the following from the Liminal Order page: (The dumb fuck got Alexander Cortes's initials wrong in his product pitch, it's J.A. not A.J.)
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Alexander Cortes is mentioned in the Liminal Order fitness standards: https://archive.fo/fGCWV
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AJ Cortes appears to just be some random fitness course salesman who probably has a free membership to the Order to sell his product while Jack gets to use his name as advertising. AJ is pretty much what you'd expect, he has his hands in everything topical and sells his insights into things from fitness to crypto:
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Twitter: https://twitter.com/AJA_Cortes?ref_src=twsrc^google|twcamp^serp|twgr^author
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Website: https://cortes.site/ (You can buy his books, or his course like "Fight Club Physique". Jack's audience is probably a perfect paypig feeding ground for this guy.)
Now on the other hand, what is the Whole Life Challenge that they partner with? Well, it's an app that lets you pay money to make a team and score points for exercising. I'm guessing their affiliation is just that you can sign up, pay for the thing, and join the Liminal Order team like any random person. The best part is that it's about the caliber of stuff you'd expect as in an article that discusses what they're actually selling they're asked what value people get from paying the continuous fee, to which the Whole Life Challenge replies that it motivates you more if you give them money...
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This is some retarded stuff.
John Goldman most likely gets kickbacks from the other subgrifters he advertises in Liminal Order at discount prices.