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Manosphere Jack Murphy / John Murphy Goldman / Bigbadbeard1000 / Jacked Brunch / Liminal Order - Bearded grifter of the Manosphere and an actual cuck
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LoathsomeBishop
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Finally! Another one I can contribute to! I've been worthless since Allison Rapp went away.
I actually have some personal insights with the guy.
First, this photo here at the bottom is where I know him from. This is the "Jacked Brunch" in Denver and, thankfully, neither I nor my girlfriend are in frame cause we want nothing to do with this guy.
Had never even heard of the guy until about 2 days prior, when someone suggested this event to me as a place to meet other sane people. Having no idea who this dude was, and determining his Liminal Order manifesto was part Masons (which I'm already a member of) with an entry fee and part Scientology with a side of incel, we opted out of the pay $5,000 to get alone time with some guy who felt like he preyed on weak men or the $300 (IIRC) to have a group breakfast round table with him and went for the...I think I paid $85 total for 2 brunch tickets, which is about what we'd have expected to pay for brunch at this place, anyways.
I'll say this right off: While I think anybody who gives this dude 5 grand or even 300 to spend time with him is nuts, and his entire business of paying to learn how to be a man when that shit just comes naturally to most of us is dumb, I actually found the brunch well worth my time and money, but not because of him but rather in spite of. It was because we met quite a number of sane people there and formed some friendships, and even though it was on its surface some sort of conservative gathering, politics was not something most people bothered talking about. The guy at the furthest right in the photo was particularly cool. The guy at the farthest left, I don't know if it was because he was from some European country or what, but he came off as more than a bit of an asshole. His girlfriend, just to the right, mostly just seemed to be embarrassed to be there with him because of his behavior. But we're here to talk about Mr. Beardpegg.
Murphy came into the restaurant from the hotel lobby like he was expecting some sort of standing ovation or some shit, and most people didn't even notice him, which I think set the stage for how he was the rest of the day. He mostly spent the rest of the day at the opposite side of that U-shaped bar in the photo by himself all brooding and haughty looking. He got up a couple of times to mingle for about 5 minutes, then sat right back down, and only really interacted with people who would fawn over him, I noticed. He had some arm candy that was half his age playing "guard" for him, and it was obvious that was all part of the "image" he was trying to create.
Mostly the people he was talking to were guys like the dude in the yellow plaid shirt and a couple of younger people who were desperately trying to get his attention and pitching him on one idea or another, at which point he would always stand up and puff out his chest and try to look all tough and masculine as these socially awkward dudes stammered their way towards showing they've never had to make a presentation in their lives, at which point he'd give them some sort of constructive critique of how they were communicated and subtly imply they should go read up on his Liminal Order to consider joining. If the Liminal Order is full of captains of industry and millionaires, doesn't make a lot of sense to me because he was recruiting kids who obviously never had a strong male influence in their lives and were weak of mind. I talked to him for briefly at one point. It was typical bloviating bullshit. He went on and on about how he was supposedly so great at Muay Thai, but when I asked him what his fight record was, he started talking about being a blackbelt level fighter. Muay Thai, for the record, doesn't have a belt/rank system - your fight record is the only thing, so I knew he was full of shit there as I DO happen to have a lot of training in the discipline. Besides the fact that he's just not built for that particular martial art - there's no way someone his size would have the flexibility and endurance for it, his game the way he's spent every day avoiding leg day as he tried to make his neck disappear was power ground if anything. And he was obviously nibbling around a bit at the "men's coaching" thing, to which I simply told him my network is solid the way it is and I never walk behind anybody, only alongside them if I so choose - at which point he cucked his way back to the other side of the room because pretend leaders don't like being around natural ones.
At some point around dusk he made some grand announcement that he was leaving, even though people had mostly broken off into their own groups well before then, and any Liminal members or prospects were invited to the afterparty in his hotel room or some shit. Knowing what I know now about how this guy spends his free time, glad we weren't invited
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One of the people I talked to there was at one point a member of his Liminal Society thing, and the guy was saying that it was basically little more than a fucking Discord chat room you paid a bunch of money to to have his closest confidantes try and sell you shit. Cannot personally confirm.
Anyhow, point of all this being, it's clear to anybody who knows how to read a person that spends more than about a minute in his presence that the whole shtick was just a LARP and he's nothing but a grifter extracting money from confused and directionless young guys and rudderless divorced bros trying to live that frat life again. He's like Onlyfans except without tits...though now I see you can watch him dildo himself, so I guess there's that if that's your thing.
TLDR
-His entire image is clearly a farce to anybody who's not insecure, and the way he overreacts and tries to play alphachad male to anybody who challenges him not in person or if he doesn't feel intimidated by them shows how insecure this fucking cuck is
-He's just a bigger, more unlikeable Jake Rapp
-His Liminal Order thing sounds like a complete fucking scam and just a take on combining Tony Robbins with MRA bullshit
-That said, though I doubt he's going to finish his Jacked Brunch Tour, I left feeling really good about the 85 or so bucks I paid for us to attend, because we met some good pedes there, and I doubt he really made anything on us base-level buyers; he probably sold to us at cost to "fill" the room so he could push his Order bullshit. If you live in LA or Seattle, believe it or not in spite of the fact this dude's career is canceled (AGAIN, fucking idiot has gotten canceled twice now - totally who you want to take advice from), if he still hosts them I'd actually recommend buying to attend and just staying away from this LARPer and making damn sure you don't end up in any photos with him.
OFFER: I'm going to reach out and see if I can join this "Liminal Order" thing for one month to get information to share here. It's worth the $100 for the lulz to report back here. I doubt his "50 person a month" bullshit actually means anything anyways and is just a way to cover for the fact nobody wants to join, but I figure maybe since I went to this brunch, maybe I have an "in" to get in there and grab some data. Will report back next month.
I actually have some personal insights with the guy.
First, this photo here at the bottom is where I know him from. This is the "Jacked Brunch" in Denver and, thankfully, neither I nor my girlfriend are in frame cause we want nothing to do with this guy.
Had never even heard of the guy until about 2 days prior, when someone suggested this event to me as a place to meet other sane people. Having no idea who this dude was, and determining his Liminal Order manifesto was part Masons (which I'm already a member of) with an entry fee and part Scientology with a side of incel, we opted out of the pay $5,000 to get alone time with some guy who felt like he preyed on weak men or the $300 (IIRC) to have a group breakfast round table with him and went for the...I think I paid $85 total for 2 brunch tickets, which is about what we'd have expected to pay for brunch at this place, anyways.
I'll say this right off: While I think anybody who gives this dude 5 grand or even 300 to spend time with him is nuts, and his entire business of paying to learn how to be a man when that shit just comes naturally to most of us is dumb, I actually found the brunch well worth my time and money, but not because of him but rather in spite of. It was because we met quite a number of sane people there and formed some friendships, and even though it was on its surface some sort of conservative gathering, politics was not something most people bothered talking about. The guy at the furthest right in the photo was particularly cool. The guy at the farthest left, I don't know if it was because he was from some European country or what, but he came off as more than a bit of an asshole. His girlfriend, just to the right, mostly just seemed to be embarrassed to be there with him because of his behavior. But we're here to talk about Mr. Beardpegg.
Murphy came into the restaurant from the hotel lobby like he was expecting some sort of standing ovation or some shit, and most people didn't even notice him, which I think set the stage for how he was the rest of the day. He mostly spent the rest of the day at the opposite side of that U-shaped bar in the photo by himself all brooding and haughty looking. He got up a couple of times to mingle for about 5 minutes, then sat right back down, and only really interacted with people who would fawn over him, I noticed. He had some arm candy that was half his age playing "guard" for him, and it was obvious that was all part of the "image" he was trying to create.
Mostly the people he was talking to were guys like the dude in the yellow plaid shirt and a couple of younger people who were desperately trying to get his attention and pitching him on one idea or another, at which point he would always stand up and puff out his chest and try to look all tough and masculine as these socially awkward dudes stammered their way towards showing they've never had to make a presentation in their lives, at which point he'd give them some sort of constructive critique of how they were communicated and subtly imply they should go read up on his Liminal Order to consider joining. If the Liminal Order is full of captains of industry and millionaires, doesn't make a lot of sense to me because he was recruiting kids who obviously never had a strong male influence in their lives and were weak of mind. I talked to him for briefly at one point. It was typical bloviating bullshit. He went on and on about how he was supposedly so great at Muay Thai, but when I asked him what his fight record was, he started talking about being a blackbelt level fighter. Muay Thai, for the record, doesn't have a belt/rank system - your fight record is the only thing, so I knew he was full of shit there as I DO happen to have a lot of training in the discipline. Besides the fact that he's just not built for that particular martial art - there's no way someone his size would have the flexibility and endurance for it, his game the way he's spent every day avoiding leg day as he tried to make his neck disappear was power ground if anything. And he was obviously nibbling around a bit at the "men's coaching" thing, to which I simply told him my network is solid the way it is and I never walk behind anybody, only alongside them if I so choose - at which point he cucked his way back to the other side of the room because pretend leaders don't like being around natural ones.
At some point around dusk he made some grand announcement that he was leaving, even though people had mostly broken off into their own groups well before then, and any Liminal members or prospects were invited to the afterparty in his hotel room or some shit. Knowing what I know now about how this guy spends his free time, glad we weren't invited
.One of the people I talked to there was at one point a member of his Liminal Society thing, and the guy was saying that it was basically little more than a fucking Discord chat room you paid a bunch of money to to have his closest confidantes try and sell you shit. Cannot personally confirm.
Anyhow, point of all this being, it's clear to anybody who knows how to read a person that spends more than about a minute in his presence that the whole shtick was just a LARP and he's nothing but a grifter extracting money from confused and directionless young guys and rudderless divorced bros trying to live that frat life again. He's like Onlyfans except without tits...though now I see you can watch him dildo himself, so I guess there's that if that's your thing.
TLDR
-His entire image is clearly a farce to anybody who's not insecure, and the way he overreacts and tries to play alphachad male to anybody who challenges him not in person or if he doesn't feel intimidated by them shows how insecure this fucking cuck is
-He's just a bigger, more unlikeable Jake Rapp
-His Liminal Order thing sounds like a complete fucking scam and just a take on combining Tony Robbins with MRA bullshit
-That said, though I doubt he's going to finish his Jacked Brunch Tour, I left feeling really good about the 85 or so bucks I paid for us to attend, because we met some good pedes there, and I doubt he really made anything on us base-level buyers; he probably sold to us at cost to "fill" the room so he could push his Order bullshit. If you live in LA or Seattle, believe it or not in spite of the fact this dude's career is canceled (AGAIN, fucking idiot has gotten canceled twice now - totally who you want to take advice from), if he still hosts them I'd actually recommend buying to attend and just staying away from this LARPer and making damn sure you don't end up in any photos with him.
OFFER: I'm going to reach out and see if I can join this "Liminal Order" thing for one month to get information to share here. It's worth the $100 for the lulz to report back here. I doubt his "50 person a month" bullshit actually means anything anyways and is just a way to cover for the fact nobody wants to join, but I figure maybe since I went to this brunch, maybe I have an "in" to get in there and grab some data. Will report back next month.
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I found a thing, Jack wrote on Medium, he talks about his son George at one point but this is a lot of his earlier work that's less perverted
medium.com
and a "syllabus" of his work her made: https://jackmurphylive.com/mans-guide-life-sex-love-career-relationship/
Quit Wasting Time: Change Yourself Before Worrying About the Rest
by Jack Murphy || July 12, 2017
medium.com
and a "syllabus" of his work her made: https://jackmurphylive.com/mans-guide-life-sex-love-career-relationship/
jethro
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You almost got it, the true patrician taste is MILFs/Lactation
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This guy was on the cusp - I mean he was just about to get into some big time money. meeting the right people, right circles, the followers, syndication...and the stars aligned to shoot him down with several events lining up with incredible precision.
This guy literally career wise was at "V1" career wise and the engine blew out at the precise wrong moment. He wasn't small enough for the shit to disappear and to restart, and he was too well known with the events taking place for him to hide. His contacts are burned, his bridges have collapsed. His photos with "you" are postcards you want to recall, his mentions on your FB and other media are to be immediately deleted.
His engine literally blew out right as he hit V1. Timing like this is rare, and like all bonfires, it is beautiful to watch from a distance, but this one is particularly special.
This guy literally career wise was at "V1" career wise and the engine blew out at the precise wrong moment. He wasn't small enough for the shit to disappear and to restart, and he was too well known with the events taking place for him to hide. His contacts are burned, his bridges have collapsed. His photos with "you" are postcards you want to recall, his mentions on your FB and other media are to be immediately deleted.
His engine literally blew out right as he hit V1. Timing like this is rare, and like all bonfires, it is beautiful to watch from a distance, but this one is particularly special.
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"Ever notice how people that are labelled the most evil thing in the world don't freely post pictures of their family and children on social media websites populated by Antifa???? Heh, checkmate Nazis!"
Shouldn't this guy be busy running interference for his sugarmommy Ghislane?
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If only dear leader would appreciate this.
DumbDude42
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oh i dont mean the retards who actually pay money to these grifters, those i don't pity at all
no, i mean gullible boys who stumble upon the articles and videos and podcasts that these grifters produce and take that content as serious life advice. that's what makes me sad.
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Lispy closeted queers are the only hope the Right has to reclaim the West.
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Fentanyl Floyd
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If anyone on pre-Jonah Hill MST3k were to truly, deeply know the definition of cuckoldry it would be Frank.
3holeDonkeyPunch
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Because, generally speaking, PUA's/alpha Chad masculinity instructors are not mgtows.
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Has MGTOW ever really meant anything though? Most are sour grapes incels who took their ball(s) and went home, not ascetic sigmas enlightened by their own intelligence to shun feemoid affection.
The top dog grifters, like Murphy and Cernovich and such, will most often be degenerate swinger types who engage in weird fetishes and are literal or figurative cucks whose women (bought with betabux from schlubs) don’t respect them. It’s all bullshit.
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The or-vore lord hast forsaken us.
3holeDonkeyPunch
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As someone who is mgtow, but not necessarily part of a mgtow community, I'd say it has meaning. The fact that it has bad actors and generally trash humans in it doesn't invalidate it to me for the same reason that millions of people still vote even though 98% of politicians should probably be put on a cross.
DelusionTree
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He was probably already making a decent amount of shekels from Dim Fool appearances that lured a bunch of suckers into the Ligma Order griftosphere.
A couple thousand paypigs only at the base level is $200k, but you're right about him on the verge of getting into shit like the lower ends of CON inc and that's where the real income starts. John Goldman would have loved to assimilate himself into establishment cuckservatism, even at the expense of his old paypigs.
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Behold, the bastion of heterosexual manliness. Behold his fully heterosexual love for other men and their cocks. Truly, MGTOW has no better modern representative than this fine specimen of heterosexual malehood.
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I think Nullard is so burnt out on being persecuted by bums he is finding laughter hard to come by these days
