Zoosadist Valerie / Connor Roundy / Hypnotist Sappho / Succubus Sappho / Vin R. Wolf / f1r3fr0st / V3xArray / r00tlulz - Chair Force "mommy dom" pedophile zoophile furry troon, cult leader who grooms children into zoophilia, wannabe hypnotherapist fetishist who exploits his clients, chairman of a fraudulent bestiality non-profit

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I’m not sure if this has been discussed yet, but Sappho claimed on zeta.mu that he used his full name in the application to the IRS to make ZNA a 501(c)(3). I don’t know much about the IRS/non-profits, but isn’t that information available to the public? The application would probably have to be approved before it became available, but maybe that could be a lead for someone who knows more about the IRS.
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I’m not sure if this has been discussed yet, but Sappho claimed on zeta.mu that he used his full name in the application to the IRS to make ZNA a 501(c)(3). I don’t know much about the IRS/non-profits, but isn’t that information available to the public? The application would probably have to be approved before it became available, but maybe that could be a lead for someone who knows more about the IRS.
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You should be able to look up tax returns for 501(c)(3) organizations using https://apps.irs.gov/app/eos/
 
I’m not sure if this has been discussed yet, but Sappho claimed on zeta.mu that he used his full name in the application to the IRS to make ZNA a 501(c)(3). I don’t know much about the IRS/non-profits, but isn’t that information available to the public? The application would probably have to be approved before it became available, but maybe that could be a lead for someone who knows more about the IRS.
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I already explained this in the OP. Z.E.T.A. North America's application has not and will not be accepted because they fail met the basic requirements for eligibility. To my knowledge applications are not public information while under review. An organization's 501(c)(3) status and tax records only become public knowledge once they have been approved by the IRS.

I wonder if this was intentional. Maybe they think they can use the automatic rejection as proof of some kind of anti-zoo conspiracy at the federal level and rally the troops with it.

Speaking of ZNA one of the co-conspirators behind it has put out a statement. TL;DR Val is a good boy who just made a little oopsie poopsie fucky wucky and Kylo is a "treacherous piece of crap" for revealing the most recent zoophile public relations darling wanted to fuck a 13 year old fan.
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Speaking of ZNA one of the co-conspirators behind it has put out a statement. TL;DR Val is a good boy who just made a little oopsie poopsie fucky wucky and Kylo is a "treacherous piece of crap" for revealing the most recent zoophile public relations darling wanted to fuck a 13 year old fan.
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"Her [his] interactions with young people have been a mixed blessing"

Either Sigma is woefully retarded and completely unaware of what Sappho has actually been up to or he himself is also pedo
 
"Her [his] interactions with young people have been a mixed blessing"

Either Sigma is woefully retarded and completely unaware of what Sappho has actually been up to or he himself is also pedo
I think the answer to this implied question is "Yes." I tend to not like saying things like "All X are also Y" but if there is one thing I have become convinced of is: "All zoophiles are also pedophiles". Which is actually more fascinating than anything from a psychological standpoint, as sociopathic as it is I would love more in depth scientific study on the matter. It's very rare to see two paraphilia be so consistently connected. Complementary paraphilia (ex sadism and masochism) tend to show up together in the same person reasonably often, but zoophilia and pedophilia aren't actually complementary paraphilia, just both are abhorrent.
 
I think the answer to this implied question is "Yes." I tend to not like saying things like "All X are also Y" but if there is one thing I have become convinced of is: "All zoophiles are also pedophiles". Which is actually more fascinating than anything from a psychological standpoint, as sociopathic as it is I would love more in depth scientific study on the matter. It's very rare to see two paraphilia be so consistently connected. Complementary paraphilia (ex sadism and masochism) tend to show up together in the same person reasonably often, but zoophilia and pedophilia aren't actually complementary paraphilia, just both are abhorrent.
They both involve sex with a powerless, easily manipulated being which cannot consent, so it makes a lot of sense, actually. The attraction for them is about having that specific type of power over someone.
 
They both involve sex with a powerless, easily manipulated being which cannot consent, so it makes a lot of sense, actually. The attraction for them is about having that specific type of power over someone.
Furthermore, a lot of them tend to also have some degree of antisocial behaviour, which is an integral reason why they think the way they do.
 
They both involve sex with a powerless, easily manipulated being which cannot consent, so it makes a lot of sense, actually. The attraction for them is about having that specific type of power over someone.
Which is what sadists like to roleplay in BDSM. It all ends up leading to the same places.
 
They both involve sex with a powerless, easily manipulated being which cannot consent, so it makes a lot of sense, actually. The attraction for them is about having that specific type of power over someone.

Going to add though, there is another reason and attraction type. People who genuinelly believe it is a mutual attraction due to childhood abuse. A lot of people abused severely in childhood have a mental delay and also had periods of projecting onto items or things that never hurt them. It's why all these people who are convinced it's okay are into dogs, they had them as pets and projected on them during their abuse which led to the mental sexual development that starts when kids start hitting puberty young not developing correctly. They had no peers or adults around to learn from or feel safe around, they only had their pet dogs. Similarly with pedophiles you'll see a lot who were sexually abused as kids and as a way gor their brain to cope they were developmentally stuck in that stage.

Not justifying it, it's just that not everyone is some sadist looking to abuse a helplesd creature and it's good to look from the perspective too of someone needing intervention and actual post-traumatic stress therapy.
 
Going to add though, there is another reason and attraction type. People who genuinelly believe it is a mutual attraction due to childhood abuse. A lot of people abused severely in childhood have a mental delay and also had periods of projecting onto items or things that never hurt them. It's why all these people who are convinced it's okay are into dogs, they had them as pets and projected on them during their abuse which led to the mental sexual development that starts when kids start hitting puberty young not developing correctly. They had no peers or adults around to learn from or feel safe around, they only had their pet dogs. Similarly with pedophiles you'll see a lot who were sexually abused as kids and as a way gor their brain to cope they were developmentally stuck in that stage.

Not justifying it, it's just that not everyone is some sadist looking to abuse a helplesd creature and it's good to look from the perspective too of someone needing intervention and actual post-traumatic stress therapy.
People become sadists because of childhood abuse too. At a certain point you have to take responsibility for who you are, and that point is way before raping a dog or a kid.

I would also wager a lot of people with these proclivities don't fully understand what drives them either. This kind of thing is often subconscious, especially when it conflicts with someone's desire to view themselves as a good person.
 
Is he still in the psych ward? That's a long time for a voluntary committal, especially in the usa. Must be costing a pretty penny
 
Val has wormed his way into a paraphilia recovery Discord group filled with kids and moderated by the same Shark person who outed him for getting CP out of Kylo. Now he’s claiming he was manipulated into thinking he’s a Fido fucking Timmy toucher.
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I understand wanting Val to improve himself so he doesn’t hurt more people but he’s clearly not looking to get better. He’s still trying to make ZNA a thing. He still refuses to admit he did anything wrong to Kylo. He’s still running ZETAmu.club. He is not remorseful and he doesn’t think he’s done anything wrong. He’s just trying to get sympathy and paint himself as the victim as he always does.

Gets outed for being a zoophile? Waaah waaah cancel culture is the real bad guy I’m a good person I would never hurt animals!
Gets outed for falsifying a child’s suicide? Waaah waaah her parents are the real bad guys I’m a good person I care so much about her!
Gets outed for masturbating in a group call with a minor? Waaah waaah antis are the real bad guys I’m a good person and the minor lied to me about their age!
Gets outed for being a pedophile? Waaah waaah puritans and the age of consent are the real bad guys I’m a good person I would never hurt children!
Gets outed for soliciting and possessing CP? Waaah waaah Kylo is the real bad guy I’m a good person I was manipulated into doing that!

It’s all fucking bullshit and anyone buying into it is fooling themselves.

“I maybe get a kick out of hurting myself.” No mention of all the kids he’s harmed. No mention of the animals he’s no doubt harmed by proxy by telling kids it’s okay to sexually abuse them. It’s all about him. Val doesn’t need a support group run by laymen with no professional psychiatric oversight. He needs to log off the Internet. For good.

It doesn’t help my suspicions of foul play when Zrcalo is the main one alongside Val saying he was manipulated into asking minors for nudes. I’ve talked about this before in the Blumiere thread; Zrcalo is only interested in “stopping” animal abuse and torture as means to fuck with his political adversaries in the furry fandom and clean up the image of his fellow altright furfags. This is the same guy who saw what Woof did to that tiny frail puppy and thought to himself “This will be great for trolling antifa!” I guarantee there’s orchestration going on behind the scenes to help Val because Zrcalo realized he’s a fellow altfur.
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Val wasn’t manipulated into thinking he’s a pedophile by having 500 people screaming at him every day on Twitter. He was already having e-sex with teenagers over VRChat and showing them his Bad Dragon collection before he came to public prominence. He went out of his way to lie about being attracted to dogs exclusively to try covering that up. He lied about his attraction to minors, his mommy fetish, and his ageplay fetish while actively pursuing minors who would call him mommy and do ageplay hypnokink sessions. If this calculated months long power trip truly was a self destructive spiral that doesn’t change the fact he is at the very least still a genuine pedophile and a threat to children.

Another factor that could be playing into this is Kylo’s new partner MossyM1nt who is one of those “yet you participate in cheeseburger” zoophiles and seems anti-recovery. Mere hours before making that “I was manipulated and I wanna get better” post in the Discord, Val was trying to throw Mossy under the bus and accused them of lying about their age. It’d make a lot of sense for him to become pro-recovery just to show how he’s soooo much better than his underage ex’s new beau.
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The closest I could find to this alleged “age in the 20s in their bio” is Mossy’s pinned AD tweet where they said one of their fursonas is 23.
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Kylo and Mossy’s relationship is obviously not going to be healthy or end well. Kylo is yet again running into the arms of whoever says nice things to them and Mossy is encouraging bestiality. It’s a bad relationship without question. But it’s not pedophilic for an 18 year old to date a 16 year old. I thought you were against people throwing around groomer accusations all the time Val?
UPDATE: Moss was lying about being 18. They are actually 24. More information is here.

And just to throw on one more tinfoil hat did Shark ever stop and think that Val is just trying to suck up to them because he knows they’re one of the people in possession of his dox? That maybe this is a plan to keep Shark from fully releasing the dox or worse butter Shark up so they let down their guard and stop participating in any police investigations?

Shame on every person who thought it was okay to let this fucker in a server full of vulnerable kids he's already harmed.
 
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Checking into this thread's updates really do be like:
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As if we think it couldn't get any worse, we are always woefully proven wrong. Blimey.

Honestly these zoophiles creating their own "recovery safe spaces" for like-minded people is just as sus as people and "organisations" like Prostasia setting up "forums" to "reiterate that offending is wrong." Nah these people need professional help from a licensed and trained practitioner who actually knows a thing or two about neuroscience and psychology. It feels like these spaces are inevitably going to become echo chambers where pro-contact views are propagated and abuse material is shared. Ugh.
 
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Checking into this thread's updates really do be like:
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As if we think it couldn't get any worse, we are always woefully proven wrong. Blimey.

Honestly these zoophiles creating their own "recovery safe spaces" for like-minded people is just as sus as people and "organisations" like Prostasia setting up "forums" to "reiterate that offending is wrong." Nah these people need professional help from a licensed and trained practitioner who actually knows a thing or two about neuroscience and psychology. It feels like these spaces are inevitably going to become echo chambers where pro-contact views are propagated and abuse material is shared. Ugh.

Not to sperg again but I seriously doubt a lot of these teenagers screaming about recovering from zoophilia the second Sappho got outed as a pedophile were ever actually zoophiles. You don't develop a sexual disorder that takes many people years of therapy to cope with and generally starts around puberty by overloading on furry vrchat porn for a month. They're just kids who parroted what coomer adults told them too because it got them a community.
 
Oh boy of course he's seeking "help" in a discord full of children. This has got to be another manipulation tactic to get the heat off of him while simultaneously looking to expand his fan base of children

I wonder how long until its found out he's found some new minors to solicit nudes from
 
Oh boy of course he's seeking "help" in a discord full of children. This has got to be another manipulation tactic to get the heat off of him while simultaneously looking to expand his fan base of children

I wonder how long until its found out he's found some new minors to solicit nudes from
Does he really expect us to believe that he's under close supervision at a psychiatric facility whilst somehow simultaneously being allowed unlimited access to the internet AND the ability to join a discord server with the very same minors that he abused not too long ago and somehow not get caught for it? Yeah something ain't adding up.
 
Oh boy of course he's seeking "help" in a discord full of children. This has got to be another manipulation tactic to get the heat off of him while simultaneously looking to expand his fan base of children

I wonder how long until its found out he's found some new minors to solicit nudes from
Not one bit of this makes any fucking sense. Last I checked psych hospitals do not allow you to have your phone, or hell anything on you. You can't even bring in shoelaces due to the risk of you killing yourself, or killing someone else with them.

Him having full access to any site he wants is not normal at a hospital, and is counter productive in the end if he is truly getting help. You can't treat someone who is a pedophile and zoo while letting them get dick pics from children and watch zoo porn. If he truly is in a hospital and staff are letting him access the internet then they are incompetent, and I question how they have their job.

In other words, sappho is a liar and I'm willing to bet a ton he is just hiding in his basement and letting the heat die down.
 
I fucking called it. Val is trying to get on Shark's good side so they don't call the cops.
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"What good will it do if he's carted off to prison?" He'll be away from kids and animals and the Internet. The latter of which the "psych ward" he's in is doing fuck all to stop and Shark is tacitly encouraging him to continue being online by engaging with him through Discord. Fuck you Shark you pedo cum gargling retard. You asked to be held responsible for the mess you decided to make. So bend over and stop crying.
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They removed Val from the server. He'd already begun lovebombing them so I imagine we'll be seeing some scorched earth action in the upcoming days as Val always does when crossed.
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