Jaron Seth Bloshinsky / Jazz Jennings / I Am Jazz - Puberty Blockers: Not Even Once

[Stephanie Brown]

I don't know the circumstances about when he wore the clothes, but siblings of the same sex commonly borrow each others' clothing, especially a younger sibling borrowing an older sibling's clothes because they want to be more like them. Jazz and Ari are not the same sex but he was raised as if he were, and he was never told this was inappropriate.

While sisters do indeed borrow eachother's clothes, sharing underwear is a big no no. It's considered super gross in general and can cause infection due to dishcharge and period stains. Vagina's are, "fragile" in a way. What I mean is that there are a lot of factors that go in vaginal health in order to avoid infection, and not sharing underwear is an important factor. So yeah Jazz stealing not only his mother, but his sister's underwear is very strange and gross.

 

[deso2y]

Just look at how content he is!

Heckin fat and jolly

 

[Iron Jaguar]

I do believe Jazz when Jazz says he's had a "sexual experience",

I think Jazz may have had what he thinks is a sexual experience. The reality is that Jazz is incapable of sexual function/orgasm in any way, so what he considers "sex" could be as little as putting a finger inside his own amhole.

the scene of Noah crying retelling her story about how her family disowned her and blah, blah, blah.

Once again, the dictum of Troons Are Always Liars should be remembered.
Even if I did not know that, I would still know Noah is a liar. Her body language and speech give blatant signals that she is lying and fantasising about her alleged abuse at the hands of her family.
To these stupid teenage girls, being told "No, you are not a man" is traumatic abuse and Hate Speech.

 

[Sonya-chan]

Jazz is not and was never AGP. He is homosexual.

I don't know the circumstances about when he wore the clothes, but siblings of the same sex commonly borrow each others' clothing, especially a younger sibling borrowing an older sibling's clothes because they want to be more like them. Jazz and Ari are not the same sex but he was raised as if he were, and he was never told this was inappropriate.

We will never know if jazz is gay or not because his sexuality was stunted by hormones blocker and the fact that he liked to wear women's clothes when he was a kid doesn't mean he's gay, 1) not all gender non conforming kids are gay or future gay (fuck your stereotypes bro) and 2) lots of people wore opposite sex clothes as a kid for various reason, like Halloween or because they have a older sibling of the opposite sex and mostly because kids clothes are kids clothes, parents buy anything that is cheap because kids grow up fast and there's no point in buying elegants clothes to a child that won't be able to wear it in 6 months.

This is why I think the AGP/HSTS is retarded and useless when apply to young transitionners like Jazz

 

[Rabidcolombian]

When I mentioned that book (IRREVERSIBLE DAMAGE) some posts back I remembered dog earring a couple of pages that had pretty interesting findings - thought you’d find it interesting as well.

Dr. Littman was an OBGYN turned public health researcher that was one of the only doctors researching this shit and her findings are very interesting

 

[Full Body Terfgasm]

Jazz has been having one big long sexual experience.
With his mother.
Now that I've watched a bit of the show thanks to the excellent Exulansic I can see why jeannette was threatened by Jaron. He was a lively intelligent engaging little kid, quite unlike any of the other dullards in the family (in laws and husband included). He showed them all up. She was threatened by that and had to "take steps" to ensure that his individulality had her stamped all over it.

TLC should give Exulansic a show, let her comment on all the poor disordered people they exploit.

 

[hogdogmog]

JoJo seems to have gone completely dark on social media - his instagram account was @jojocandela_, but doesn't exist anymore and then there's this inactive Twitter: https://twitter.com/jojocarlsonn_?lang=en

There's a chance he just grew out of it. The absolute lack of internet presence is a positive sign at least.

Sorry to dash your hopes - she's definitely active, uses the names Jaclyn Candela or Jaclyn Westbrook now: https://linktr.ee/thetbarbie.

No bottom surgery yet - she has an Onlyfans of course, like Jazz's former buddies Corey Maison, Emily Tressa and Charley Lindo. Last I heard she'd caught Covid actually.

 

[Tasty Tatty]

Jazz has been having one big long sexual experience.
With his mother.
Now that I've watched a bit of the show thanks to the excellent Exulansic I can see why jeannette was threatened by Jaron. He was a lively intelligent engaging little kid, quite unlike any of the other dullards in the family (in laws and husband included). He showed them all up. She was threatened by that and had to "take steps" to ensure that his individulality had her stamped all over it.

While Jazz was living the Little Mermaid, his mother was living Snow White.

 

[Mishy2021]

TS

All this posing and Hope still looks like a giant dude.

TS Madison looks more feminine than Hope. I had a look at Hopes ‘in between transing photos and she was quite overweight on google and her face is massive and unmistakeably male. Hope also goes hard on photoshop. They prob use video filters on her for the show too.

 

[Lumpy.Nuala]

Jeanette groomed him well. He thinks he isn't allowed to turn people (especially troons) down. He has been manipulated into ignoring his sexual boundaries.

Perhaps Jeanette got a taste for the Momager lifestyle but her golden goose got fat and stopped laying eggs, so she moved on to Sander. Behind the scenes she's probably shopping a Troon version of the Bachelor to TLC where Sander picks a "girlfriend" from a racially diverse cavalcade of twinks with bolt ons and lip fillers. Oh, at the end of each episode he can hand out dilators!

 

[No Batty Boys in Jamaica]

Hi Seedy - Transgender Discussion

A pointless thread. Is anyone who was posting between 2009 to 2013 around? How are you doing? If not that's okay. I used to come here everyday after …

boards.420chan.org

Here's a fascinating thread from 420chan. Basically, before 4chan got an LGBT board around 2015, 420chan had a lot of troons. They had a designated board and it attracted many because of the libertarian "anything goes" vibe and the fact that the board was used for drugs, so it was used to discuss getting HRT and surgery outside the western medical system. Things I noticed:
1. Of the ones who passed, many ended up dating tranny chasers. The ones who didn't date chasers dated other troons. Few cis females partners, as expected.
2. Many seemed put off by the new generation of troons, and quickly distanced themselves from the transgender movement if they were able to "stealth pass".
3. Lots of regrets all around. Some regretted transitioning early, others regretted putting off transition (almost like gender wasn't their problem!)
4. They hated many of the even older troons who posted on sites like Susan's Place and Laura's Playground. The boomers who didn't come out until later in life were referred to as "hons".
5. There are now younger troons on imageboards who don't know what hon means. Perhaps because the younger ones don't know what Susan's Place is, or maybe because the hon generation is dying. IDK. 2016 happened 30 years ago.
6. Very few who started before turning 18. This makes sense because they wouldn't be on 420chan if their parents let them/pushed them to transition.
7. This must be a sampling of troons who did not 41% , so survivorship bias is in effect. But the ones with regret seemed to know that the end was near.

I'd love to know their opinions on Jazz. I bet that if you asked a 30-something troon, they'd recognize that he's not trans and his parents are pushing him to transition. But if you asked a troon the same age as Jazz, they'd flip their shit and call you a transphobic, bigoted anti semite. Attitudes changed in a hurry between boomer and zoomer.

 

[Distraught Knuckles]

When I mentioned that book (IRREVERSIBLE DAMAGE) some posts back I remembered dog earring a couple of pages that had pretty interesting findings - thought you’d find it interesting as well.

Dr. Littman was an OBGYN turned public health researcher that was one of the only doctors researching this shit and her findings are very interesting

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It’s interesting that the parents were (slightly) more likely to be supportive of transgenderism than homosexuality. I know people here mostly think the ‘trans the gay away’ phenomenon is overstated, but I can see circumstances in which progressive, educated lower-upper-middle class suburban midwit parents might feel confusion or embarrassment at their child coming out as gay even if they’re publicly supportive of it. They’d rather that their unusual daughter turn out to be an ordinary son.

 

[No Batty Boys in Jamaica]

They’d rather that their unusual daughter turn out to be an ordinary son.

Then they find out that not only does she want to be a boy, she wants to be a batty bwoy.

Such is life for a midwit.

 

[AbraCadaver]

I'm curious on Zander, do you think his inability to say "no" comes from his father?

Both his parents are equally culpable in Sander’s situation.

His mother is to blame for instilling in him the idea that he can’t refuse a trans person’s sexual advances and that he has to let himself be put into situations that make him massively uncomfortable, or else be branded as a bigot.

His father is to blame for watching all this happen and doing nothing. He’s not some frail woman who can’t stop her abusive husband from beating the kids. He has the power to recognize his wife’s bad influence and stop it, but he chooses not to….quite the opposite, actually. Every day he goes along with this abusive public airing of his children’s sexualities and private lives all over trash television.

A real parent doesn’t sit there punching their own child in the face…and they also don’t sit there watching while someone else repeatedly punches their child in the face. If you see your spouse mentally damaging your kids and you do nothing out of laziness, you are just as responsible.

Both of these parents have equally failed their kids, either passively or aggressively.

 

[Kulee Baba]

Both his parents are equally culpable in Sander’s situation.

His mother is to blame for instilling in him the idea that he can’t refuse a trans person’s sexual advances and that he has to let himself be put into situations that make him massively uncomfortable, or else be branded as a bigot.

His father is to blame for watching all this happen and doing nothing. He’s not some frail woman who can’t stop her abusive husband from beating the kids. He has the power to recognize his wife’s bad influence and stop it, but he chooses not to….quite the opposite, actually. Every day he goes along with this abusive public airing of his children’s sexualities and private lives all over trash television.

A real parent doesn’t sit there punching their own child in the face…and they also don’t sit there watching while someone else repeatedly punches their child in the face. If you see your spouse mentally damaging your kids and you do nothing out of laziness, you are just as responsible.

Both of these parents have equally failed their kids, either passively or aggressively.

I think the Sander-Juwanna Man situation is a farce. Just like seasons prior when Jazz was "dating" Amir.

This is how I imagine it works. Jazz and the family are in regular contact with producers for the show. The producers go back and forth with the family with ideas that they think will be entertaining. For Season 7 Jazz hopefully losing weight is the main theme, but they don't shoot the season for the necessary length of time to have Jazz lose a dramatic amount of weight. So they need a B-Plot and TLC recommended some LGBT romance because it's an easy topic that TLC's main audience of housewives love.

Sander has no intention of having sexual relations with this transgender person, the transgender person has no intention of having sex with Sander. They're both doing it for attention and money. TLC will pay at least $1000 for each episode the tranny does. It's a farce.

Same shit as The Bachelor.

 

[Law]

the transgender person has no intention of having sex with Sander.

 

[Full Body Terfgasm]

While Jazz was living the Little Mermaid, his mother was living Snow White.

I bet she thought she was the fucking toast of the town while she was meeting Rosie o donnell and going on 20/20 and 60 minutes, I bet she thought she was World's Greatest Mom. The ego on jeannette is horrifying.

 

[Medicinal Molduga]

Mass entertainment generally and reality shows specifically are fucked up and should be extremely legally restricted. That's my conclusion from this shitshow.

 

[0 0]

I've some musing I thought of when watching I Am Jazz that I can't quite get off my chest, so I really wanted to scream it into the void.

Within the last three or so episodes at the time of writing, Jazz's grandmother had a heart-to-heart with him while driving around to some inane meeting or whatever. It might have been on the way to Jazz's dietitian or something, or maybe just the weird SRS clinic he's been frequenting. The specifics aren't important, the bigger focus is the content of the grandmother's story.

In it, she told Jazz about how when she was a child, her parents and peers pushed her to remain very thin and incredibly trim. To do so, they would constantly tell her how to conduct herself, put her on a heavily restrictive diet, and eventually started giving her diet pills to maintain her incredibly trim figure. To conclude, the grandmother asked Jazz what he thought of the story.

Now, Jazz's grandmother may look like a gremlin, may be a complete victim of plastic surgery, and by God she may not even be that smart, but there's a difference between intelligence and wisdom, and I genuinely found the story profound. I am not being sarcastic when I say this in any capacity: I legitimately was moved by the grandmother's attempt to impart introspection onto Jazz. Perhaps I'm injecting too much into it, but given the context of the situation and how Jazz's grandmother phrased it, she clearly was making parallel's to Jazz's situation, and subtly asking him if what he was doing to himself was what he actually wanted or was simply him following along with what people around him were telling him to do. Replace restrictive diets with feminization training and diet pills with hormones and you have a one-to-one translation into Jazz's current scenario.

Jazz's grandmother always struck me as sort of out of the loop. Not as in senile, but more unsure of the state medical technology is in or even how the human body works in general. She clearly trusts in the butchering that is sexual reassignment, but her concern seems to be whether or not Jazz himself is fully aware of how much of his decisions truly are his own. I can and do fault the grandmother for being oblivious to what actually goes on with sexual reassignment, even if she is a fossil out of her element. But I still appreciate and respect her awareness and tactfulness in asking Jazz if this is who he is or if he's simply being what people want him to be once she started to see the toll it was taking on Jazz, even if it's too little too late.

Jazz is as dense in the head as he is in his entire, flubbery body, though, so it went right over his head. Since he's struggling with his weight, his two neurons only made that connection and thought his grandmother was talking about his broadening waistline. I forgot precisely what he took away from the conversation, but it definitely wasn't what the grandmother was looking for. I believe it was something along the lines of Jazz concluding that she was trying to tell him that he needs to feel motivated to lose weight for himself, and not for other people, which is insanely dumb and sounds close to what I remember now that I'm recalling it. Either way, the scene abruptly ended, so I imagine the grandmother was not very impressed by Jazz's interpretation if she gave a reaction to Jazz the editor decided to cut as soon as possible.

And while that's what most bothered me watching the show this season, it leads into the second most perturbing thing I saw this season, which was also in the same episode. Jazz visits his stupid dietitian and asks if his weight gain is a genetic issue. Keep in mind that this is either the same or subsequent episode where Jazz shares he eats five servings sizes of breakfast at McDonald's daily. His dietitian then says it may be possible it is a physiological issue, and Jazz cites his grandmother's aforementioned story, once again missing the point of it. What bothers me about this is what the dietitian says, being that she saw the grandmother's story as a credible foundation to conclude Jazz's weight gain may be a genetic trait.

This bothered me in particular for two reasons. The first is that the grandmother made it explicitly clear that her weight issues stemmed from social factors, which Jazz was aware of and also explicitly relayed to the dietitian anyway, so the dietitian couldn't have made the assumption the grandmother had any agency over her own weight if she was paying attention to what Jazz literally just said. The second is that the grandmother's issue was with low body weight anyway, and while I'm not dietitian myself, I can't imagine this paradoxically translating into Jazz going in the complete opposite direction even if his grandmother's weight issues was due to genetic predisposition.

The most baffling thing to me of all is that this was one of the very few moments of screentime Jazz has had this season. His stupid chaser brother has been devouring 3/4ths of the runtime like a black hole. Yet somehow Jazz and the entire situation surrounding him is still so insanely moronic that it still leaves me the most bewildered and bemused to the point that I need to vent out my confusion in essay form.

 

[T.E.R.F]

I agree with you. I think most mtf troons hate women and are generally narcissistic coombrains while most ftm's are self-hating women that were sold on the idea that men have it easier. I wasn't disagreeing with that at all.

The post I replied to said that women are getting shat on by the pro-tranny progressives so women are no longer on top of the victim pile. To me that's just a bit of schadenfreude. Troons use literally the same tactics and in most cases the exact same arguments feminists have used for almost a century now. If you allow some feels-based ideology to come around to specifically shit on some other group, don't be surprised when this opens the door for the next ideology to do it to your group too.

Feminism is not a “feels-based” ideology. I mean, maybe pop culture liberal feminism is nowadays, but it’s just as feels-based as whatever retarded manosphere vid you got that from.

If you are unironically classifying the past century of feminism as a tool to “shit on men” you need to go outside and touch grass. It’s not women’s fault we don’t want to fuck you.