Manosphere Jack Murphy / John Murphy Goldman / Bigbadbeard1000 / Jacked Brunch / Liminal Order - Bearded grifter of the Manosphere and an actual cuck

Looks like Tim might be deleting comments about Jack from today's cast. All the top comments from a few hours ago are now gone, and if you search the keyword Jack only things from the livechat seem to come up now.
stuff like this just proves next to no one actually believes in 'free speech' and everyone will behave like a fascist dictator when it suits them personally and they have the power.
 
Being that severe with TDS only made me feel like Scientology was misunderstood. its a lot harder believing the accusations towards David Miscavige when he's copy&pasting them towards Joshua Moon. Joshua would never be married or have multiple mistresses, he is gay for tom cruise though
In the end, Ortega is a New York "journalist" so he's more than likely a leftist and a legit faggot which is going to color his take on just about anything. Pretty bad when your gay bullshit makes Miscavige sympathetic.
 
He did this cause he's an exhibitionist pervert who wanted to do kinky shit in front of an audience, plain and simple. The money was just a bonus.
exactly, he did this because he liked doing it, no doubt fueled by the exogenous testosterone he was taking.

He should've just owned this truth. So many PR mistakes here.

From all appearances the Riminal Order was full of wannabe grifters and mini-Jack Murphy fags, just check some posts in the thread. Your average member probably is thinking how stupid he is for believing Jack, but he's probably looking for another manly e-daddy to hitch himself to. The only reason they don't deserve to be doxed is because they're all interchangeable, just generic right-wing/MRA losers who wanted to purchase Jack's alleged masculinity for themselves.
we've already had decent people who were in the LO appear in this thread and confirm that there were other very decent people in the LO, who would organize social events etc. One guy said that about 15% of the guys in it were trying to sell stuff to others.

That leaves plenty of people who need to be left the hell alone.

I dont understand how anyone can laugh at Jack for being a lying creep and then turn around an be a completely evil piece of shit themselves, which is all you are if you trying to dox these people.
 
we've already had decent people who were in the LO appear in this thread and confirm that there were other very decent people in the LO, who would organize social events etc. One guy said that about 15% of the guys in it were trying to sell stuff to others.

That leaves plenty of people who need to be left the hell alone.

I dont understand how anyone can laugh at Jack for being a lying creep and then turn around an be a completely evil piece of shit themselves, which is all you are if you trying to dox these people.
I am being accused of doxxing members, but literally all I did was google some names that jack mentioned in one of his "liminal order exclusive" podcasts, not sure if it really counts as doxxing, he said the name when reading members questions, the way I see it Jack doxxed him. I was asked by an ex member to stop googling names so I did.
 
I am being accused of doxxing members, but literally all I did was google some names that jack mentioned in one of his "liminal order exclusive" podcasts, not sure if it really counts as doxxing, he said the name when reading members questions, the way I see it Jack doxxed him. I was asked by an ex member to stop googling names so I did.
You're fine I recognize you from the Twitter thread too.

There was one particular person here who said: 'let's dig up these members and see if we can find a few more lolcows among them"

that's wrong. and that's who I was responding too.
 
Cernovich and Posobeic almost have to be members don't they? Maybe not paying members, I could see Jack inviting them in for free to try gain credibility. I am kind of curious now which couple Adam Crigler was referring to (in the rekieta stream) that warned him about Jack being into swinging, not many couples in Tim pools circle, it could even be Posobiec and his wife who warned Adam.
 
we've already had decent people who were in the LO appear in this thread and confirm that there were other very decent people in the LO
What makes them decent people? Or are we just applying "innocent until proven guilty?"

Asking me, anyone who goes through "50 onboarding interviews" to join a "cohort" is a scammer, a homosexual predator, or a dunce.

And / or


Not that I mind them replying in this thread, mind. Doxxxxxxxing is generally unwarranted.
 
Also we have no way to verify members unless they are going to provide something verifiable, like some files or something. I can come on here and say: "yeah , I was a member of the Liminal Order since the beginning, we all used to take turns on Jacks wife, that is what the $100 per month was really for. But really we are all good guys so leave us alone"
 
I believe Robert Barnes, famous lawyer, said in one of his recent Viva streams that Pabst is the only beer he drinks if he drinks beer. Very troubling .
So Robert Barnes is a South Park character...
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Cernovich and Posobeic almost have to be members don't they? Maybe not paying members, I could see Jack inviting them in for free to try gain credibility. I am kind of curious now which couple Adam Crigler was referring to (in the rekieta stream) that warned him about Jack being into swinging, not many couples in Tim pools circle, it could even be Posobiec and his wife who warned Adam.
If that is the case we would have seen that in leaks already I would assume.
 
What makes them decent people? Or are we just applying "innocent until proven guilty?"

Asking me, anyone who goes through "50 onboarding interviews" to join a "cohort" is a scammer, a homosexual predator, or a dunce.

And / or


Not that I mind them replying in this thread, mind. Doxxxxxxxing is generally unwarranted.
There are plenty of good people that get suckered into things like Scientology. Usually they are in a vulnerable place. They're probably just looking to fill a hole in their lives. And the shame is that, as others pointed out in this thread, there probably is a void to fill in this area of what it means to be a man in the modern day.

What I don't like is that someone like Jordan Peterson more or less gets the same treatment here as this fag. There is a difference between someone who has a gift but isn't perfect and a scammer who puts dildos up his ass.
 
If that is the case we would have seen that in leaks already I would assume.
IDK, so far all that has leaked when it comes to members is that list of "organizers" and the 2 names I pulled from the posobiec mp3. afaik. There were 800 members if we can believe Jack. Which we probably cant. Would not be surprised if there are only like 300 members or something and most of them have left since all this came out.
 
There's something about this subscribtion grifts that I just think makes them extra bad. If you are just a random guru selling a useless book for 25$ that is one thing. If you set it up in a way that the people you prey on have to pay 100$ a month that allows you to rob way more money from them until they wise up. 25 $ for most even less well off people is not a disatrous amount of money to loose, a 100$ a month is a lot of money to most people.
 
What makes them decent people? Or are we just applying "innocent until proven guilty?"

Asking me, anyone who goes through "50 onboarding interviews" to join a "cohort" is a scammer, a homosexual predator, or a dunce.

And / or


Not that I mind them replying in this thread, mind. Doxxxxxxxing is generally unwarranted.
According to Adam on the stream last night the 50 interviews thing is rather recent.
 
exactly, he did this because he liked doing it, no doubt fueled by the exogenous testosterone he was taking.

He should've just owned this truth. So many PR mistakes here.


we've already had decent people who were in the LO appear in this thread and confirm that there were other very decent people in the LO, who would organize social events etc. One guy said that about 15% of the guys in it were trying to sell stuff to others.

That leaves plenty of people who need to be left the hell alone.

I dont understand how anyone can laugh at Jack for being a lying creep and then turn around an be a completely evil piece of shit themselves, which is all you are if you trying to dox these people.
So, this account is mere days old, and all its activity is confined to panicky caping in this thread for the LO members and appeals to Kiwi conscience to not dox its membership list because it’s members are “decent”, “innocent”, “just looking for a father figure” and such.

I personally have no particular interest in seeing the membership revealed - I’m pretty sure these guys are already on a list changing hands amongst righty grifters as known suckers - but the level of white knighting going in your posts for them is a bit higher than might be expected.

Is it you personally that’s on the list, a partner, a family member, or some friends? Are you worried that your loved one could lose employment or community clout if they are revealed to be in it?

Did you or your loved one send explicit content to Jack? I am pretty sure no one here has an interest in identifying his grooming victims, if that’s your concern. Plus, that shit is revenge porn, not legal, and Null will not fuck with hosting that. This is not a place where your private nudes will appear.

People frankly are only interested in laughing at Jack. The Ligma Ashol members are just poor dumb fucks on a par with those who get sucked into Herbalife or Plexus MLM shit, and got grifted to get day drunk on cheap booze with other poor dumb fucks at gay little “brunches”. Being a sucker isn’t a crime. But, free advice: everyone who is known to have been in the LO is now viewed as a known mark in the righty grifting racket. Don‘t respond to any targeted offers or marketing from similar organisations or “personalities”. It’s the same racket as how people with a Capital One credit card suddenly get flooded with predatory lending opportunities.
 
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According to Adam on the stream last night the 50 interviews thing is rather recent.
A few knew about the article since October, possibly earlier.
John may have saw the early tweets/chats about him being a gay cuck and locked down Ligma to protect the grift from being exposed.
 
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