Let's pretend for one moment that he does die before the election, just for the funsies. What happens then? Will the nomination revert to option number 2, aka Bernie Sanders? Or will his running mate automatically replace him just the way Vice-President is supposted to step in after the Big Man in the White House chokes on a piece of matzo? Does he even have a running mate yet?
US Joe Biden News Megathread - The Other Biden Derangement Syndrome Thread (with a side order of Fauci Derangement Syndrome)
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Crenshaw has recently been going after the Freedom Caucus for being fake and performative, which "Big Boss anti-Antifa superhero secret agent" Dan Crenshaw is not.
Totally hypocritical, and if I was a Swamper, I'd be screaming at his backers and handler, saying he's exposing himself left and right, and the grift is getting obscenely noticable.
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Need a Jan Sixth party to celebrate the brave boomers who defiantly took a capital hill tour without a tour guide to counter it.
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I can't decide whether to relish the salt or get MATI at the audacity of their slander.
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The cynic in me thinks that some glowie or idiot (my money's on it being a Patriot Front tard, but it could be anyone) is going to try and start something on Jan 6th, and that this'll give the Uniparty and the security state an excuse to try and crack down on us MAGA ghouls. I'm not sure whether it'll work, but I'm pretty sure they'll try it.
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Why not both? I'm annoyed with how they keep acting like so many people where murdered and they're sudden love for mike pence like they didn't spent 4 years shitting on him.
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Manchin on Biden's spending bill: 'No negotiation going on'
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The West Virginia senator thinks Democrats would be better off focusing on climate provisions in their wide-ranging megabill.
President Joe Biden’s social and climate spending bill is making zero progress in the Senate, where Democratic holdout Joe Manchin said Tuesday there are “no discussions” going on about reviving it.
The West Virginia Democrat bluntly dismissed talk of progress from other members of his party over the last couple weeks and made clear he’s tired of discussing the $1.7 trillion proposal that focuses on education, climate action, health care, taxes and child care.
“I’m really not going to talk about Build Back Better because I think I’ve been very clear on that. There is no negotiation going on at this time,” Manchin told reporters outside his office.
Manchin’s comments amount to just the latest bad sign for the House-passed legislation, which is now interminably stalled in the Senate due to Manchin’s opposition. There have been no specific conversations about reviving the legislation since Manchin spoke with Biden in late December after coming out against the bill on Fox News.
Democrats had hoped the year-end expiration of the expanded child tax credit might cajole Manchin into a deal. But his concerns are far broader and would require a significant rewrite of the legislation, extending to the bill’s short-term programs and longer-term financing.
That explains why the Senate is pivoting almost entirely to elections reform and debate over Senate rules changes, where Manchin stands as yet another blockade along with moderate Sen. Kyrsten Sinema (D-Ariz.). Manchin said he’s talking with Democrats about reforms to the Senate rules that might allow voting legislation to pass, but said as of now he’s “not agreeing to anything.”
Nonetheless, Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer said Manchin will have to vote on Biden’s signature spending bill at some point. The legislation has yet to come to the Senate floor after Schumer had hoped to pass it before Christmas.
“I intend to hold a vote in the Senate on BBB and we’ll keep voting until we get a bill passed. The stakes are high for us to find common ground,” Schumer said Tuesday.
Still, after Manchin's comments Tuesday, the domestic spending bill seems in even worse shape than many in the party are willing to admit. And Democrats may have to seriously trim their ambitions to get Manchin’s vote, essential to pass the filibuster-proof spending bill in a 50-50 Senate.
Manchin called some of the bill “well-intended” but argued other parts are a “far reach." In the past, he has raised questions about the price of the expanded child tax credit as well as the legislation’s paid leave provisions. On Tuesday, Manchin suggested that focusing the bill on climate might be easier than lumping in a hodgepodge of provisions that amount to much of his party’s domestic wish list from the past few years.
“The climate thing is one that we probably could come to an agreement much easier than anything else,” Manchin said.
A Biden administration official said they would not “comment about any individual member, but we continue to be engaged with a wide range of senators about advancing the President’s Build Back Better” plan.
The West Virginia senator thinks Democrats would be better off focusing on climate provisions in their wide-ranging megabill.
President Joe Biden’s social and climate spending bill is making zero progress in the Senate, where Democratic holdout Joe Manchin said Tuesday there are “no discussions” going on about reviving it.
The West Virginia Democrat bluntly dismissed talk of progress from other members of his party over the last couple weeks and made clear he’s tired of discussing the $1.7 trillion proposal that focuses on education, climate action, health care, taxes and child care.
“I’m really not going to talk about Build Back Better because I think I’ve been very clear on that. There is no negotiation going on at this time,” Manchin told reporters outside his office.
Manchin’s comments amount to just the latest bad sign for the House-passed legislation, which is now interminably stalled in the Senate due to Manchin’s opposition. There have been no specific conversations about reviving the legislation since Manchin spoke with Biden in late December after coming out against the bill on Fox News.
Democrats had hoped the year-end expiration of the expanded child tax credit might cajole Manchin into a deal. But his concerns are far broader and would require a significant rewrite of the legislation, extending to the bill’s short-term programs and longer-term financing.
That explains why the Senate is pivoting almost entirely to elections reform and debate over Senate rules changes, where Manchin stands as yet another blockade along with moderate Sen. Kyrsten Sinema (D-Ariz.). Manchin said he’s talking with Democrats about reforms to the Senate rules that might allow voting legislation to pass, but said as of now he’s “not agreeing to anything.”
Nonetheless, Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer said Manchin will have to vote on Biden’s signature spending bill at some point. The legislation has yet to come to the Senate floor after Schumer had hoped to pass it before Christmas.
“I intend to hold a vote in the Senate on BBB and we’ll keep voting until we get a bill passed. The stakes are high for us to find common ground,” Schumer said Tuesday.
Still, after Manchin's comments Tuesday, the domestic spending bill seems in even worse shape than many in the party are willing to admit. And Democrats may have to seriously trim their ambitions to get Manchin’s vote, essential to pass the filibuster-proof spending bill in a 50-50 Senate.
Manchin called some of the bill “well-intended” but argued other parts are a “far reach." In the past, he has raised questions about the price of the expanded child tax credit as well as the legislation’s paid leave provisions. On Tuesday, Manchin suggested that focusing the bill on climate might be easier than lumping in a hodgepodge of provisions that amount to much of his party’s domestic wish list from the past few years.
“The climate thing is one that we probably could come to an agreement much easier than anything else,” Manchin said.
A Biden administration official said they would not “comment about any individual member, but we continue to be engaged with a wide range of senators about advancing the President’s Build Back Better” plan.
I'm leaning towards just trying to tune it out. I'll relish the salt when the commitee finishes their report and it doesn't call for Trump's immediate arrest and/or execution for killing democracy.
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KF is, sadly, the only place where I can openly express my disdain for these histrionic crybullies without getting doxxed, censored, or put on a watchlist.
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Well better update the death count on 2021 Capital Hill Insurrection wiki from 5 to 6.
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Still amazed the Dems are still going over with this one trick.
I guess one can say that public opinion can be manipulated, but I don't think they can do out of thin air, not in this internet age we live in at least.
If there isn't a big tragedy, or some very striking imagery, it would be very hard to sell the Jan 6 in general right? because this whole speech about "democracy hangs by a thread" I've been hearing about it since I was a kid.
So, if the most threatening image you have of this "uprising" is some retard in a "shaman" cosplay, and just 1 death of a unarmed woman, how the fuck are you going to sell this without making yourself look bad in the process.
Sure, the dem choir will recite their "amen" for this, but the rest of the public ain't rolling with the dems whims anymore, how can they not notice this?
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Imagine being old and a batshit Lefty lmao. What a great rebuke of the enemy of the people
too!
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If at first you don't succeed...
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Consider that polls from media organizations that are squarely within the influence of the DNC show that they're disfavored by the majority even after manipulating the data sets in their favor, I don't see the DNC getting much support from going "Those boomers had no respect for RULE OF LAW and OUR DEMOCRACY and they are our MORTAL ENEMY who must be QUASHED" while dependent on useful idiots like antifa, blm, etc. who are cognizant enough to know that the alliance is one of convenience for both the DNC and the foot soldier organizations.
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So those articles about "Manchin back on the negotiation table" were bullshit
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Exactly. And without Manchin voting to kill the filibuster, Schumer’s threats are proven bullshit too.
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If they say it enough the DNC thinks they can pressure Manchin into giving up, not realizing that WV is not the same as NYC or LA.
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They always were. If you want salt, head over to r/politics and read any thread even tangibly related to Manchin. I'd say the majority of the subreddit at this point is 100% convinced the Democratic and Republican parties are one and the same and that Biden/the Democrats are secretly in collusion trying to bring Trump back. But despite being driven to the point of lunacy they'll still all vote Democratic in November. Fucking lemmings.
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Imagine being so absolutely intellectually bankrupt as a political party that your only idea is, "let's try to get people scared that Grandma is gonna start a revolution!"
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It's just throwing themselves a pity party. Cocaine Mitch is out of town at a funeral, apparently.
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They are so used to just having CNN/MSNBC scream at the public until they comply.
Hilariously, one of the requirements for the new "conservative" member of The View they are looking for is "can't 'downplay' January 6th."
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