I don't even know what I'd do if people were sifting through the absolute worst parts of my personal life with such giddy glee and making it all completely publicly available.
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Regarding the tweet imagine making some insanely hysterical commentary about your ingroup being “immiserated” and denied health care, and then immediately doing a plug for your product. It be like if the people suffering with AIDS in the 80s at a protest were screaming about lack of health care or research but then suddenly turned deadpan to the camera and said “you should buy my book!” I know there is no trans “crisis” but even still he truly is AbiGHOUL.
When he’s not crying about muh equal rights he aspires to be a nerd bimbo tee hee hee:
This is the tranny image of 'womanhood' - tits, bimbo, hairless, estrogen. It's always totally alien to what actual women are or what their lives are like.
Regarding the tweet imagine making some insanely hysterical commentary about your ingroup being “immiserated” and denied health care, and then immediately doing a plug for your product. It be like if the people suffering with AIDS in the 80s at a protest were screaming about lack of health care or research but then suddenly turned deadpan to the camera and said “you should buy my book!” I know there is no trans “crisis” but even still he truly is AbiGHOUL.
I'm not sure where the state is "illegally" denying anyone healthcare.
The General Medical Council states that patients who request gender dysphoria must be referred to a Gender Identity Clinic or "experienced gender specialist" (experienced = evidence of relevant training and at least two years’ experience working in a specialised gender dysphoria practice) without having to consult with their clinical commissioning group.
GPs do not need to refer for a prior psychiatric assessment before referral to a GIC, but may do so while the patient is waiting if they are experiencing distress from waiting times. In line with advice from the Royal College of Psychiatrists, they can also prescribe the lowest acceptable dose of HRT after consulting with an experienced gender specialist should the patient be self medicating with hormones or at significant risk of self harm or suicide. All treatment must be conducted in compliance with the Health and Social Care Act 2012 regulations.
Referral to a Gender Identity Clinic is subject to monitoring by the Care Quality Comission, which ensures the system in place for the management of and reduction in the Gender Identity Development Service (GIDs) patient waiting list is effective. NHS England in collaboration with the Department for Health and Social Care have increased yearly funding by £6 million to GICs to achieve this goal and is also running pilot schemes in London, Manchester, Cheshire and Merseyside to trial delivery of some services in primary healthcare settings to be assessed after 3 years, has obtained additional surgical providers to increase Yeet The Teet capacity and has established the UKs first accredited post-graduate training credential in gender medicine, delivered by the Royal College of Physicians and University of London with the aim to increase the professional workforce.
In like with the World Professional Association for Transgender Health guidelines, HRT may commence if the patient is of the age of majority, has the ability to provide informed consent, has demonstrated to the GIC a persistent and well documented history of gender dysphoria and does not have contraindicated health issues (e.g. venous thromboembolic disease, hypertriglyceridaemia, cardiovascular disease, hypertension, hyperprolactinaemia or prolactinoma). With a patient with severe mental illness that impairs reality testing (psychotic episodes, bipolar disorder, dissociative identity disorder, borderline personality disorder), an effort must be made to improve these conditions with psychotropic medications and/or psychotherapy before hormones are contemplated. Surgical interventions may proceed after 12 months of social and hormonal transition. Further surgical interventions like FFS or body contouring are considered purely aesthetic and therefore not covered by NICE on the basis of lack of evidence of beneficial health outcomes, except in exceptional circumstances with well documented distress.
The point of all this sperging is that Ollie not only is claiming that the NHS should do what he wants when he wants it, but they're actually behaving illegally. This is the opposite. Not only are they meeting all their legal obligations, it would actually be illegal for the NHS to run roughshod over recommendations from these other professional bodies, and would be illegal for NICE to disregard its requirement for evidence based treatment from professional bodies, as it must be demonstrably shown that efforts have been taken to use public funds in a manner that is the most cost effective (and boutique on demand gender surgery is not cost effective if this means less oncologists, for example).
Of course, Ollie's parents could have told him that, but this isn't something he'd listen to. He might have a point about waiting times breaching the NHS Constitution, but he's not complaining about that, he wants nobody to question a trans person demanding hormones and surgery RIGHT NOW.
If he does read this thread then perhaps instead of protesting NHS England who are pretty hands tied, he could protest the Gender Identity Research & Education Society - a society of largely transgender people - who ensured the UK’s Good Practice Guidelines were updated in line with WPATH's guidelines. Those nasty nasty transmedicalists are why you have to get referrals from psychologists at a gender clinic, Ollie!
Ollie looking like an extraordinary MALE sped playing dress-up and allowed to touch an expensive DSLR. That giant fucking jaw/chin combined with a distinctly hooked nose and vaguely clenched fist just makes for quite the portrait here. Stunning and brave, as usual.
He’s just so gross. When he wears his dainty clothes and feminine signifiers, I just picture him at the end of the day - the crumpled up dress in the corner of his apartment, soaked in ball sweat and dude pheromones. Obviously he can wear what he wants but it would be nice if trannies were a little more cognizant of the Ick Factor.
notice the subtle change of his language-
we’ve gone from
“Stupid Tranny Play, coming 2022!’
to
‘stage play which *could* be performed..’
looks like the transphobic and/or ~discerning about not having shit on their stage~ theatre programming directors aren’t biting.
also lol, i’ve just realised that’s why he keeps blathering on about it. he’s fishing for someone to actually take him up on it, and no one has yet.
that makes it actually kind of tragic normal, as well as just tragicomic
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He’s just so gross. When he wears his dainty clothes and feminine signifiers, I just picture him at the end of the day - the crumpled up dress in the corner of his apartment, soaked in ball sweat and dude pheromones. Obviously he can wear what he wants but it would be nice if trannies were a little more cognizant of the Ick Factor.
Did Olly not go to Laura Kate Dale's tranny protest outside the BBC today?
Check out the featured thread on the main page. There's an amazing photo of the protest, with all manner of eldritch horrors if you zoom in and look around. No sign of the Tube though, as far as I can see.
I'm not even from England and when he identifies as a Geordie it almost feels as wrong deep in my bones as when he identifies as a woman.
I suppose it might be technically the case if he's from the right part of England but I always assumed Geordies had certain class and speech elements he clearly does not share, like saying a snooty boarding school upper class snob who happened to be born in East London is a Cockney.
Edit: Lmao, I was looking at Wikipedia and it has been revealed to me why Olly is so desperate to sell his Geordie credentials:
The Geordie dialect and identity are primarily associated with those of a working-class background.[16] A 2008 newspaper survey found the Geordie accent the "most attractive in England".[17] Indeed, the variety has recently acquired a "cool" flavour in the perception of many.[18]
I'm not even from England and when he identifies as a Geordie it almost feels as wrong deep in my bones as when he identifies as a woman.
I suppose it might be technically the case if he's from the right part of England but I always assumed Geordies had certain class and speech elements he clearly does not share, like saying a snooty boarding school upper class snob who happened to be born in East London is a Cockney.
Edit: Lmao, I was looking at Wikipedia and it has been revealed to me why Olly is so desperate to sell his Geordie credentials:
if you’ve ever heard the accent you’ll understand why it’s double hilariously nothing to do with Olly.
because i am a geordie, it was initially this that tipped my first feelings of discomfort about him - he was on about if someone found his skull in a thousand years, like cheddar gorge man, etc he would be ‘geordie man’ and i was like ???
does he currently live in newcastle, at the posh university or something?
i was just really confused.
then very suspicious of him because no one here sounds like that or even looks like that- that posh fat aristo face.
then it became very clear what kind of character he was, more so than if he’d just been from like Surrey, and sounded / looked like that.
different class stratification and even local genealogy- we are more like celts, and poor ones, here.
so yeah, he thinks it does him favours pretending to be a geordie but it just makes him more totally suspect.
(it’s also a bit annoying lol, that he puts it on; cos, for example, e.g progressing in a career, moving South, going to university, and speaking to ask a question in a lecture, or just in general social situations, your accent makes you feel you sound stupid, and people make big assumptions about you, as well as just mimic it all the time as a joke when you say something different - in a “no i really like it, i wish i had that” but you do feel like you stick out and sound different and dumb. it’s worthwhile softening it if you want to get by in certain areas.
it’s not a big oppressive thing or whatever and is fairly minor but it’s just another niggle about his fucktard duplicitous nature)
I was also checking to see if Olly tweeted about the anti BBC protest which is currently featured - so far hes not said anything about it which is strange. Maybe doesnt want to rock the boat for future acting projects? He still manages to tweet out breathtakingly obtuse takes like the above though. I just dont understand people who spend the majority of their time curating an online presence and yet have such a lack of self awareness.
The 'Low Skill work' talking point has been going around recently and its pretty obnoxious because the idea of low skill work is not meant to be a value judgement that people who engage in that type of work are somehow lesser, its meant to be a materialist understanding of the nature of labour divisions that effect the majority of the working class.
Ironically, the people who are making a big song and dance about how you shouldn't say anybody is engaging in low skill labour are being anti-marxist because Marx was very aware of the importance and ramifications of low skilled labour in his theories, and didn't avoid describing it as such. One of the big things that Marx talked about is the way in which technological advances have continually reduced the overall need for high skilled labour since things that previously took a lot of time and experience to perfect, for example weaving, could instead be offloaded onto an industrial machine where the skill requirement of the individual worker was hugely reduced. In effect the workers themselves were pushed towards behaving in a more machine like manner where they were often doing repetitive and simple tasks in a factory where the aggregate of these tasks could produce something far more complex than the workers would have been capable of doing individually without a huge amount of training and experience, this reached its peak with the development of the assembly line in the early 20th century where extremely complex products like cars could be produced by people who would have absolutely no hope of making a car on their own as an individual, but can as part of the assembly process with many other workers doing relatively simple tasks.
Marx pointed out that the overall result of this was that capitalist production could result in considerable amounts of innovation and huge increases in overall production compared to older methods, but at the same time it was highly likely to reduce the economic power and leverage of the average worker, and could kick skilled workers down the ladder since their particular abilities were no longer difficult to reproduce and in high demand, reducing their ability to do things like demand fair recompense for their labour, instead the balance of power was shifted in favour of the owners of capital like property, machines, land, factories and other things that made for industrial society who reaped far larger returns because of their control of these things than the workers they employed, who, because they partook in unskilled work, were highly expendable and could be replaced easily, seriously damaging their negotiating power.
The last bit is crucial, its why a proper Marxist would scoff at this notion of declaring everybody high skilled workers just to make them feel good. The term is meant to be an objective recognition of reality, if you can be let go and replaced with somebody else with ease by your employer because your job has a large pool of people to draw upon and just about anybody can be easily trained up to occupy your role you are unskilled compared to a job where the exact opposite is the case, it does not matter how you dress it up.
I was also checking to see if Olly tweeted about the anti BBC protest which is currently featured - so far hes not said anything about it which is strange. Maybe doesnt want to rock the boat for future acting projects? He still manages to tweet out breathtakingly obtuse takes like the above though. I just dont understand people who spend the majority of their time curating an online presence and yet have such a lack of self awareness.
IS HE FUCKING SERIOUS LOL
imagine the fury when PL read that.
“self made” rich kid olly not only not realising it’s literally him, but taking credit for her saying that omfg haha he seriously can’t save himself by even just shutting up once in a while instead of stalking her twitter and never even getting a liked tweet back, my day this has made.
also even just imagine the eye roll of getting your “ear talked off” about class in situ by a fucking toff when you’re an ex rent boy omg, he is literally unbearable and everyone who has the misfortune to be proximate to him must hate it.
please say at least some one said some thing as a reply
IS HE FUCKING SERIOUS LOL
imagine the fury when PL read that.
“self made” rich kid olly not only not realising it’s literally him, but taking credit for her saying that omfg haha he seriously can’t save himself by even just shutting up once in a while instead of stalking her twitter and never even getting a liked tweet back, my day this has made.
also even just imagine the eye roll of getting your “ear talked off” about class in situ by a fucking toff when you’re an ex rent boy omg, he is literally unbearable and everyone who has the misfortune to be proximate to him must hate it.
please say at least some one said some thing as a reply
At least Paris is honest, unlike this silver spooned mfer cosplaying as a prole for a lark.
More curiosities from the unholy depths of Alice's Twitter account because I don't love myself.
Alice is always tweeting about girlfriends, boyfriends, fucking in various positions — classic aspiring harem master stuff. But in his serious moments he speaks only of one girlfriend, singular, in the same breath as his husband like so:
For all his claims to "have sex with a lot of women," "a lot of fulfilling lesbian relationships and hookups," there seems to be just one extramarital relationship important enough to figure in tweets. Perhaps there could be more — but this is Alice, remember. Is Alice capable of not tweeting when he has the option to tweet? He's supposed to be a Person Who Fucks, you know; he has a brand to uphold; every bit of publicized fucking helps. Plus the language of his husband-girlfriend tweets marks them as the most important people in his life, and it would be very strange, very alienating to a hypothetical other partner, if they were cut out of the picture so coldly.
One girlfriend, then. Who? Take a guess.
If you guessed "trans woman software engineer," congratulations. Your prize is lol there's no prize for winning the easiest guessing game on these green farms.
Annette and Alice have been tweeting girlfriend things at/about each other regularly since 2018.
Annette also has a second girlfriend, an MTF living in Ireland. (You wonder how often they see each other in the flesh, as Annette and Alice are both based in Glasgow.)
And I should just assume this of everyone in this crowd by now, but Annette is yet another member of the “claims to be lesbian although not lesbian even by the dictates of TWAW” club. Seems they've amassed the numbers to populate a small country, though the running of affairs would be disastrous with not one sensible head in the room.
Bless the diagram for burning my eyes so I can barely read the rest of that bullshit.
It seems that Olly has truly found his people. Not even in the sense of transness, but in the sense of very online-ness with all the contortions of presentation and belief that such an existence provokes. Only online can matters of sex (in both ways) be made to melt into the background, overpowered by contrary words. Only online can you boast of being something — a socialist, a woman, successful, hot — and be flooded with praise from your followers regardless of the actual truth value of the claim. In meatspace, the senses are undeniable. You can't convince people that you're some kind of bohemian rake if you aren't. But if you have no shame, you can pull off a lot of fakery when others only have your word to judge you by, and when those who sniff out your phoniness are directed by Internet etiquette to just ignore you and move on. PT is comfortable jerking around his fans because they've shown that they'll stick with him regardless. I'm sure he's better behaved in real life, where he can't block people with common sense out of his professional interactions.
@fax machine
is........are the pictures for Alices 'girlfriend's Onyfans profile post supposed to be joke, or like..real? lol
Was disappointed to see no-one on twitter (quicker than Chubes block trigger-finger, at least) had the balls to reply to his breathtakingly audacious Paris Lees reply.
So I went, via the WaybackMachine, to see if there was anything funny on his old deleted account.
Seems like he's always been at his boring, pretendy-wholesome reflected-limelight, show off shit :
"[B]Oliver Thorn[/B] @[B]OllyThorn[/B]Mar 30 2 of my friends have written books and it’s so nice to sit down on a sunny morning with a tea and read them - I’m lucky to know such talented folks!
"
Havent looked far yet , that was just a few from the top.
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