Plagued Consoomers / Consoomer Culture - Because if it has a recogniseable brand on it, I’d buy it!

[PrimoVitorio]

One interesting thing about this thread is just how many people have differing views on what is consooming.
I think honestly the consoomer stuff is always going to be subjective given

1. Some people have differing views on certain things. Owning toys is enough for people to cringe at it. While you have others who collect toys here who have no problem with it.
2. Some people may look at one thing as just decorating a room with an interest while someone else will look at it as a shrine
3. We all have various opinions on "too much". Whether it be a room or a display cabinet.
4. Personal interests are going to come into it. A car fan will like the die cast collection and cringe at something else. I don't bat an eye towards star wars stuff but a my little pony room is nightmare fuel.

I think no matter what you do, there will be someone calling you a consoomer/manchild somewhere. The only way to not be a consoomer to someone is having nothing, and plain white walls. That's incredibly miserable.

I think my opinion of consoomers is more liberal than most here. I personally don't think its my problem when it comes to what people like to buy. Buying a shirt you like the look of, regardless of if it has a brand on it is harmless. Owning a cap or shirt of your favorite team is harmless. Some may find a grown man in his teams kit silly, but I don't.

Consooming to me is less about what people buy, rather can they afford it, can they fit it and whether or not it becomes their entire identity.

A regular star wars fan may buy some merch they think looks cool, Their room may be a mix of star wars stuff and personal items. They engage in the community and talk about it. They joke and quote the movies every now and then. They discuss the ideas and themes. They also have interests outside of star wars.

A consoomer only has star wars, They have no interests, nothing else but star wars. Everything they say is about star wars. "Trump is Vader". Any movie or product that comes out they get overly emotional over. Their entire being is consooming. Their entire house is star wars.

Spoiler: personal lolcow

I think I have a good IRL example. Someone at my college is obsessed with smash bros, sonic, rayman and mario. Its all they talk about, they brag about winning smash bro games against other students singing how he's "the king of super smash bros". He wants to be a pro gamer.

Myself? Well I enjoy this stuff, I do some somewhat competitive gaming, but its not all I have. I have other interests and hobbies. I don't spend all my time playing vidya. The odd hour practicing maybe. If its an iRacing special event, yes i spend a ton of hours doing that, but its a one off.

Its something which concerns me, even as someone who plays somewhat "competitively". I'm fine with pro gaming, its rather the issue of having nothing else which concerns me. But that is for another time.

That is what really is the heart of what is consooming. When buying becomes an obsession, when the product is all you have.

 

[NoReturn]

This all got long so I'm putting my responses in a spoiler and posting videos as thread content instead.
IKEA

Disney

Spoiler: Responses to other things

Spoiler: Insider sperging

Gaming autist here.
Professional gaming was always going to happen.

The thing is at the end of the day football, hockey, so forth are games at their very heart.
Motorsport started the moment the 2nd car was produced.
People have always wanted to see who was the best at something.
Pro gaming isn't going away, neither is streaming.

I'm open to pro gaming because I do a few semi-serious online championships in my spare time but I can understand people's concern.
I think pro gaming organisations need to implement regulations, requiring participants to be in a full time/part time job or if they are young, in education. Pro gaming teams also need to organise social events or something to make sure the people who do this have something outside of just playing vidya.

That said, some pro gamers do this on their own and I think its too much of an exaggeration to say that all pro gamers are NEETs
Brenden Leigh won the inaugural F1 eSports series, and I read on the F1 site he worked in Reading.
He came back a year later and looked more fitter too. As if he was on a diet or went to the gym a bit.
So I think its a stretch to think everyone who plays games professionally just play vidya.

I think the problems with it will come up more and more over time and the discussion will come up eventually. Its still a new thing and will need some adjusting.

Streaming depends on the individual. Most sim racing streamers to me seem well adjusted, and while they do spend a few hours a day streaming, they have other stuff outside that. Of course you have special events like on iRacing where people do real life events but in the sim which require planning ahead of time.

For example the 24 hours of Daytona is coming up. Its a team race so you aren't driving for 24 hours straight. You need to plan what times you can race or not, so i cant race at X time because real life stuff but i can race at Y because i have nothing on then.

The same goes for online championships (league racing) too. I select the league which fits my schedule. Many people in my leagues state they can't make the race because they have other commitments.

This is one of your better contributions to the thread. It's distracting when you bring up your own room when we're talking about Disney and porn, but your game section here was actually insightful.
The idea of gamers getting fit is actually pretty cool to me, because it makes sense. If you aren't an overweight, out of shape NEET then you're going to ironically do better at vidya because your reflexes will be faster and you won't have as much poo-brain.

One of them I know works 60 hours a week at two shit jobs so that she can take a month long park vacation every year.

She will eat ramen for the entire year to eat only at Disney for a month. It’s nuts and everyone in her family has tried to intervene.

Shit is nuts.

What the fuck.
This mentality is why I made the "How can you make your normal life better?" thread. I get why her family would intervene. It's like she's living only for the sake of 1/12th of her life and sacricing her health at the alter of the mouse.

There was once a time where consoomer's were correct.
Disney used to make genuinely good stuff.
Say what you will about Walt, but I can respect the man for having a genuine love for his craft.

I read an interesting book on the topic a while back that was published a few decades back. I think it was Demystifying Disney by Chris Pallant but the book I borrowed had a black cover. Either way, it had some very interesting insights into the history of the company, their financial struggles at different points in time, and how those affected the movies they produced.

I have yet to meet any chair at Ikea that is even remotely comfortable. Most of their chairs lack any kind of cushioning. They don't appear to care about ergonomics much either, as most of their chairs (cushioned or not) lack lumbar support, are weirdly too short or too tall, have bizarre arm rest placement/height (if they're included at all), rarely have contours a human-like body might comfortably fit in and often don't even fit properly under most of the tables they sell (either the chair or table legs get in the way, the arm rests are slightly too high, the table surface is too high, etc.). Even most of their sofas are god-awful -- almost universally way too low to the ground and hard-as-rocks cushions.

One goes to IKEA for cheap standing desks and storage solutions. That's all I've ever found useful.

I also adore their paranoid conspiracy theory-sounding insinuations that twitter is quietly ignoring/hiding/downplaying likes and retweets because twitter is secretly homophobic, sexist and racist. For one thing, lolwut? For another, even if they were Evil(tm), why would they bother with this? Finally, what happened to "well it's their platform, they can do what they want with it" and "if you don't like it, go make your own"?

Gotta love that shit. It never gets old.

Believe it or not, taking to @PrimoVitorio made me realize something recently: Namely that this new generation of people online are coming from a completely different cultural background than the rest of us.

Internet culture 1 -
"People are reacting negatively to me! Guess what I said wasn't insightful or funny enough."
"My post got deleted! What rule did I break? None? Well fuck you too, Janny."

Internet culture 2 -
"People are reacing negatively to me! What a much of racist/sexist/queerphobic assholes!"
"There are no Jannies. There is only faceless corporation who never interacts with me directly. They only send automated messages. This corporation is basically a god."

That is what really is the heart of what is consooming. When buying becomes an obsession, when the product is all you have.

Hey! You got it!

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Edit: Adding this because it's related to everything we've been talking about recently.

"Men want to watch a match, have a beer, then have sex."
(If anyone can archive it, please do. My grabber taps out at ~7 minutes)

 

[cybertoaster]

They would just refuse to hire you due to the large gaps in your employment history where you were effectively a NEET.

Just make shit up about working for X startup that went bust, theres a million of those out there and most records are gone.

Meanwhile that video of you shoving a dildo up your ass will be there for decades to come. Nowdays even people who did porn in the 70's and 80's are finding themselves exposed online because some old coomer uploaded his vhs collection.

Ok so I guess I want to explain what is exactly making me insecure when going through this thread. I have one tiny room to myself, I'm still with my relatives but I'm focusing on moving out within the next few years.

I mentioned having my old toys like pixar cars stuff.
That isn't all I have.

1. Two cube organizers of a mixture of pixar cars toys, star wars, Thunderbirds, matchbox. (about this size)View attachment 2867777
2. A couple of airfixes, an old scaletrix with 90s era DTM cars given to me by my dad, and one scaletrix with the 2009 Brawn GP and Mclaren

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3. Tracy island from like 15 years back. I had two (don't ask why I don't know) but got rid of the unboxed one. I can imagine displaying this somewhere with the thunderbirds toys as Thunderbirds seems like model trains, its something your grandad would love.View attachment 2867697

4. A collection of books on motorsport, pokemon, doctor who, a Richard Hammond autobiography and top gear magazines. These fill the small gap between my bed and closet.

5. Work books from my old schools, I'd say these are personal items on my personal history.

6. Teddys like beanies to a few I got from elderly neighbours. One I think I've had my entire life. These are in front of my books.

I guess I'm asking how to keep this stuff without it looking weird or a consoomer shrine when I get my own place.
I was thinking about how people who collect die casts have glass display cases or something to put them in, I think I'll do that with my matchbox/cars/ect.

This is out of genuine enjoyment and of genuine sentimental value. I've gone through my stuff on what I want to give to others.
I may think about giving away more.

I won't derail the thread any more so any messages, please do so in private conversations. I've messed up the thread already, I don't want to do it any more.

None of that shit counts, specially since most seem to be gifts so its more about the sentimental value because of the people who gifted it to you than whatever autism you might have towards a brand or franchise.

 

[Sleazy Car Salesman]

Game AI peaked in the mid 2000s with stuff like FEAR, its been going downhill since then and games now have terrible AI because zoomers prefer to PATW.

Please forgive me but PATW is one I haven't heard before.

 

[cybertoaster]

Please forgive me but PATW is one I haven't heard before.

"Press A to Win", basically shit like in GTAV where if you suck too much ass at playing (read: journos) you can just skip the mission.

 

[Sleazy Car Salesman]

"Press A to Win", basically shit like in GTAV where if you suck too much ass at playing (read: journos) you can just skip the mission.

Thanks.

 

[cringy cunt]

Ok so I guess I want to explain what is exactly making me insecure when going through this thread. I have one tiny room to myself, I'm still with my relatives but I'm focusing on moving out within the next few years.

I mentioned having my old toys like pixar cars stuff.
That isn't all I have.

1. Two cube organizers of a mixture of pixar cars toys, star wars, Thunderbirds, matchbox. (about this size)View attachment 2867777
2. A couple of airfixes, an old scaletrix with 90s era DTM cars given to me by my dad, and one scaletrix with the 2009 Brawn GP and Mclaren

View attachment 2867754View attachment 2867762
3. Tracy island from like 15 years back. I had two (don't ask why I don't know) but got rid of the unboxed one. I can imagine displaying this somewhere with the thunderbirds toys as Thunderbirds seems like model trains, its something your grandad would love.View attachment 2867697

4. A collection of books on motorsport, pokemon, doctor who, a Richard Hammond autobiography and top gear magazines. These fill the small gap between my bed and closet.

5. Work books from my old schools, I'd say these are personal items on my personal history.

6. Teddys like beanies to a few I got from elderly neighbours. One I think I've had my entire life. These are in front of my books.

I guess I'm asking how to keep this stuff without it looking weird or a consoomer shrine when I get my own place.
I was thinking about how people who collect die casts have glass display cases or something to put them in, I think I'll do that with my matchbox/cars/ect.

This is out of genuine enjoyment and of genuine sentimental value. I've gone through my stuff on what I want to give to others.
I may think about giving away more.

I won't derail the thread any more so any messages, please do so in private conversations. I've messed up the thread already, I don't want to do it any more.

Donate your shit to people children living in poverty and find a more productive focus for your autism.

 

[Lou's Abndoned Artwork]

I think the line between collecting and consooming is very thin and blurry, but from what I've seen from the consooming cows on here, there are some traits / reasons that can contribute to being a consoomer.

1: Thoughtlessness. There's no self control on spending their money, it's a serious compulsion of "buy immediately", even if puts them in a position of not making rent / mortgage.

2: FOMO. In honesty, most "collectors editions" or limited runs of most mainstream products are not that, and are easily sourced 6 months to a year after being produced. Consoomers would be the ones in line on release day for their product.

3: Buying for the sake of buying something. One of the main cows I follow on here does this constantly with Tablets. Buys a tablet / electronic for that dopamine rush, gets depressed once it wears off, and sells it, only to buy another a week / month later.

I generally hold people who have a focused / curated collection of items are much more highly than those who just have everything they can get their hands on, mainly because people who have a restrained collection know a -lot- more about their passion that someone who just buys everything for the sake of having it.

"I collect comics, here's 20 boring longboxes filled with comics, good luck finding anything" vs "I have a handful of comics that are considered must-reads by everyone, and a few on display"

 

[The Ugly One]

Consooming, like autism, is a spectrum. At the far end of that spectrum lies Bob Chipman. The more of a consoomer you are, the more you will find yourself transmogrifying into Bob.

1. Has no ambition in life other than consooming Next Product
2. Has never learned anything at all, as consooming is interesting enough
3. Isn't actually interested in details of the product, such as how it is made, or the history of it, only in consooming it
4. Unable to critically assess the product. It is the product, and he consooms it, therefore it is flawless.
5. Cannot appreciate or find humor in the ultimate triviality of the product, whether it's a movie about a flying man in tights or a game about pretending to be a magical elf on the hunt for an ogre's treasure.
6. Considers the amount of product consoomed to be an important achievement
7. Becomes angry when others do not consoom the product or get excited about next product

 

[PrimoVitorio]

Personally, I don't think rooms quantify a consoomer or not that well.
As I stated before, you may have a guy with a mancave with star wars or whatever and generally be well rounded and not a consoomer.
They may have a lot of income and a lot of room they want to add some of their interests with.
I think when you have people saying an example isn't that bad, it isn't consooming.

For something to be consoomer tier it needs to be agreed upon by everyone.
That's why NoReturns examples are so good, they are very clearly hoarding or consooming and hardly anyone objects to them.

To me, you can't call someone a consoomer by what their room looks like unless its one of those horror shows where they fill their kitchen with stuff. Or when you can't walk through it without toppling something over.

The consoomer meme, at its heart is not about people buying items of their interests. It is an attitude.
Someone wanting to have a nice bit of their room dedicated to star wars or another of their interests isn't consooming per se.

It is treating brands as a religion.

Spoiler: Why MovieBob is the face of consooming

MovieBob isn't the face of consooming because he has stuff. He's the face of consooming because he treats brands as religions and gets his views, opinions, quotes ONLY from movies.

Most people do what Bob does, but not to the extent he does. They'll quote movies, find some nice ideas or something in movies, they'll be fans. They'll discuss the philosophies in movies. They'll like a character for their traits. But it isn't their entire being.

They have original opinions, they themselves made for themselves.
Bob just gets them from brands. He can't compare anything in the real world to anything other than what he consooms.
It isn't that bad when its every now and then, but when its all you do, that is consooming.

You can admire Optimus Prime for his wisdom, or Batman for his fight for Gotham, but if all your heroes are fictional, that is consooming.

Everyone buys stuff to decorate their house with their interests. As long as they can afford it, store/display it somewhere and they genuinely want it that isn't consooming. When you are buying excessively, that is consooming. When your entire house is of one brand, well yeah thats consooming, but a variety of stuff from your various interests isn't.

Spoiler: How I judge consooming

When judging a room, you have to ignore your personal prejudges. Some may think Star Wars is for kids and a room of it is childish.
If I look at a room or collection of say, My Little Pony, I find that weird. But that's my personal opinion and view on things. Not everyone is going to agree on my view.

When I look at examples I judge it by a number of things.
1. Is it clean
2. Is it organized
3. Can you walk through it
4. Does it look like the house looks relativity normal.
5. Are there any personal photos/items/so forth

If a room ticks these boxes, it is fine with me. I think a room can still be fine without ticking #5 if it isn't too excessive.
An example is my old neighbors. They were into sci-fi and Star Trek. There was a lot of Star Trek stuff, but at the same time it was countered by personal items and the Star Trek stuff was not on the floor or whatnot.

There was furniture, cabinets, the regular stuff, and the Star trek models and Star Trek stuff was put in places that made it look nice. At the same time, she had old photos of relatives and family.
If someone was say a motorsports fan, they may have diecasts, nice paintings, photos or souvenirs such as tickets or programs of their first race, or races they've been to. That will be balanced out by personal items and furniture.

Another example is my friends reletive. She had a lot of die casts in her living room, but they were in display cabinets/display cases on either side of her TV and some I think elsewhere. It was clean, pleasing to the eye and easy to get round the room

Now when it comes to say, model trains, because some sets are so big, they may fill up an attic or basement. I think that needs to be debated. I'm fine with them, but when exactly does that stuff go wrong?

 

[trailcamwhore]

This is the chair in question btw. It's pretty ugly and looks uncomfortable.


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Thirty years ago they sold a laminated-wood-seated version with painted black leg(s)—for $19.99, if I remember right. I do remember it was the best cheap chair you could buy and everyone I knew who was broke but not a permanent loser had some.

Becoming a clichéd camwhore prop is the fate of everything I love (except my penis).

 

[Sleazy Car Salesman]

I don't want to be mean, but does this guy have some kind of vague disorder? The way he speaks reminds me of a cross between Goofy and Mark Zuckerberg.
And I can't even describe how depressing that video is. A hollow plastic adult visiting a hollow plastic park. In a way I feel sad for him being all alone like that. But even though there are people all over the place during the whole video and it's mostly outside on a sunny day, I get this eery feeling like staring into a supernatural void of some kind.

He's probably on the spectrum, wouldn't surprise me if he was Autistic/Aspberger's (is that even a diagnoses they give out anymore?). In any case he's socially maladjusted whether he's actually a puzzle piece or not.

 

[Vingle]

I don't want to be mean, but does this guy have some kind of vague disorder? The way he speaks reminds me of a cross between Goofy and Mark Zuckerberg.
And I can't even describe how depressing that video is. A hollow plastic adult visiting a hollow plastic park. In a way I feel sad for him being all alone like that. But even though there are people all over the place during the whole video and it's mostly outside on a sunny day, I get this eery feeling like staring into a supernatural void of some kind.

I reacted on that his skin is so fucking pink/red. He reminds of a pig, and he really wanted to get across that he's a messy eater. That was a bit weird/nasty.

 

[NoReturn]

I don't want to be mean, but does this guy have some kind of vague disorder? The way he speaks reminds me of a cross between Goofy and Mark Zuckerberg.
And I can't even describe how depressing that video is. A hollow plastic adult visiting a hollow plastic park. In a way I feel sad for him being all alone like that. But even though there are people all over the place during the whole video and it's mostly outside on a sunny day, I get this eery feeling like staring into a supernatural void of some kind.

Maybe he's just a hylic

He's probably on the spectrum, wouldn't surprise me if he was Autistic/Aspberger's (is that even a diagnoses they give out anymore?). In any case he's socially maladjusted whether he's actually a puzzle piece or not.

He's got a companion in this video so he's not completely alone:

 

[Pissmaster]

 

[NoReturn]

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Where are her eyebrows?

 

[Canoodler]

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How are people not embarrassed when they post shit like this? Did consoomers fail to develop the part of the brain responsible for feeling shame?

 

[Sleazy Car Salesman]

Serious question: Why do people like RBG? She did literally nothing good during her entire time in the Supreme Court.

 

[LinkinParkxNaruto[AMV]]

How are people not embarrassed when they post shit like this? Did consoomers fail to develop the part of the brain responsible for feeling shame?

I can see a picture like that getting a ton of updoots on plebbit. They do it for validation and they usually get it, they they have to do it again for a new hit each time trying even harder to milk those pointless brownie points

 

[moocow]

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lol the box has a fucking "45" on it Legacy indeed!