Has search gotten worse?

[Bongocat]

Google reverse image search was better than trace.moe for anime (and everything else). The only reason it's not good for finding source now is because google doesn't want you to find the source. Apparently it was for some DMCA reason. I only use yandex for reverse image search now.

Yandex reverse image search beats google by an unbelievable margin. You should really try it some time. They're about equal for half the things I search, but for the other half, google fails embarrassingly badly compared to Yandex.

 

[Equivocal_Iki]

I only use yandex for reverse image search now.

Yandex reverse image search beats google by an unbelievable margin. You should really try it some time.

I know I'm guilty of it too, but could you try reading a post before replying to it?

 

[Bongocat]

I know I'm guilty of it too, but could you try reading a post before replying to it?

Sorry I'm bouncing back and fourth between work and this (and I'm also retarded)

 

[Smaug's Smokey Hole]

Yandex reverse image search beats google by an unbelievable margin. You should really try it some time. They're about equal for half the things I search, but for the other half, google fails embarrassingly badly compared to Yandex.

It's also true that Bing can work better for general search results when google is flooding you with puff pieces of something similar but unrelated.

 

[Bongocat]

It's also true that Bing can work better for general search results when google is flooding you with puff pieces of something similar but unrelated.

I've generally had astonishingly bad results with bing. To the point that 'binging' pretty much any process name on your computer will bring you to a scam site telling you to install their malware to remove it. They're also somehow even more pozzed than google is.

I could at least test the waters with them as a last resort. I wonder how they are on literal searches since that's where every other search engine is failing the hardest right now.

 

[Smaug's Smokey Hole]

I wonder how they are on literal searches since that's where every other search engine is failing the hardest right now.

That's exactly where I've had good results, like searching for a specific filename of some old crap from the 90's. That was some years ago though so it's probably shit now.

 

[Bongocat]

That's exactly where I've had good results, like searching for a specific filename of some old crap from the 90's. That was some years ago though so it's probably shit now.

here's to hoping microsoft neglected their product so it's still good

 

[Smaug's Smokey Hole]

here's to hoping microsoft neglected their product so it's still good

Yeah, try to find Mortal Cumbat on Google. It was a Wolf3D style game from the mid-late 90's, not a retail product, where you shoot sperm at enemies. Crass as hell but somewhat popular, the name makes it impossible to find because it's all "eey, Mortal Kombat 8-9-X-11 am I right, ain't that some shit?" in the search results. I tried bing and it was the same thing They must have improved Bing and started making the assumption that you don't actually know what you are looking for and probably misspelled the query.

One such thing in our index was that searching phonetically for béarnaise by roughly typing banäs auto-corrected it and served up the right results. But what if I want to view blogs where people write "banäs"? I can't search for it.

 

[Not a Step]

Yeah, try to find Mortal Cumbat on Google. It was a Wolf3D style game from the mid-late 90's, not a retail product, where you shoot sperm at enemies. Crass as hell but somewhat popular, the name makes it impossible to find because it's all "eey, Mortal Kombat 8-9-X-11 am I right, ain't that some shit?" in the search results. I tried bing and it was the same thing They must have improved Bing and started making the assumption that you don't actually know what you are looking for and probably misspelled the query.

One such thing in our index was that searching phonetically for béarnaise by roughly typing banäs auto-corrected it and served up the right results. But what if I want to view blogs where people write "banäs"? I can't search for it.

Putting words or phrases in quotes should do an exact search. In my experience, it still works at least on Google, but they'll probably remove that too eventually.

 

[Bongocat]

Putting words or phrases in quotes should do an exact search. In my experience, it still works at least on Google, but they'll probably remove that too eventually.

it's a complete crapshoot if it works or not. The closer it is to "looking like a typo", the more google INSISTS "ohh hmmm mmmyeess it's clear you don't know what you're talking about. You MUST have meant these fiiiiiiiiiiiiiine Amazon products instead"

I'll bet you could make millions of dollars right now just by making a shitty search engine with no "typo detection".

 

[byuu]

bring back cuil

 

[TurdFondler]

Bing is my default right now because I'm trying to rid myself of google entirely.

It's like google from 15 years ago. There are no paid spots and a lot of the time it returns a wiki or other good source. It doesn't seem like they've indexed youtube.

Image search is so-so

For pop/mainstream internet culture, google is the best. Bing has no idea what to do with memes.

The biggest realization for me was learning how much I actually just asked google "distance from x to y place" or "convert a to b units" or dumb shit you know someone has already answered(how tall is haruhi suzumiya??), Google will bring up a result right away.

 

[Dick Justice]

Every time I search "name of a product followed" by "review" you would expect I would get reviews of that specific product.
No, I get results for reviews of probably every other thing under the sun except that particular product. It's even worse if I want to specifically read a written review as opposed to a 20 minute YouTube video with some idiot babbling on about his personal life for 19 minutes of it, with the one remaining minute of it being the review of actual God damn product.

Good, Cheap and Fast Was 'The Best Shopping Site Around'

Good, Cheap and Fast was the most ideologically pure thing that I've ever created. Then, Google killed it.

www.johnwdefeo.com

This might interest you.

Maybe the thread needs to be pinned? It's too good to be buried deep in the bowels of the I&T subforum.

Maybe, but I'm not going to be the one to do so. Shilling your own thread is like asking to be a janny or saying you're famous: crass beyond words, someone else needs to be the one to do/say it.

Bing is my default right now because I'm trying to rid myself of google entirely.

It's like google from 15 years ago. There are no paid spots and a lot of the time it returns a wiki or other good source. It doesn't seem like they've indexed youtube.

Image search is so-so

For pop/mainstream internet culture, google is the best. Bing has no idea what to do with memes.

The biggest realization for me was learning how much I actually just asked google "distance from x to y place" or "convert a to b units" or dumb shit you know someone has already answered(how tall is haruhi suzumiya??), Google will bring up a result right away.

If google is the devil MS and by extension bing is the antichrist. credit for managing to de-jewgle but all you did is hop out of the frying pan.

 

[TurdFondler]

It's not like I'm doing it on some ideological anti tech bent, I just can't stomach Google's mandatory persistent profiles anymore. I don't want to participate in Google's bullshit walled garden. I've given up any app that doesn't come in an APK because fuck play store.

 

[Dick Justice]

That's the thing, MS is working towards exactly the same end. If they haven't implemented it yet it's because of a lack of marketshare in the relevant areas, though you can already see it where they're dominant such as with windows. To put it another way if everyone switched to bing and the MS equivalent of google prods they would be indistinguishable except color palette by the weekend.

 

[TurdFondler]

100% agree and I'll just keep browser hopping to avoid it. We're at a point where there is just so much data it would be basically impossible for a startup to index it all with just some clever code. We're gonna be stuck with one corporation or another on the normie web no matter what.

 

[The Bovinian Derivative]

This is one of the few things I'm not sure can be blamed entirely on Google. The abuse of SEO is being taught in business on the regular and most of the reason you can't find shit on games is because of the tabloid article mills that pump their shit with tags to shove it to the top of every search. Think "GTA 6 REVEAL????" tier dumb asses.

Then again, it is entirely Google's fault for never filtering this shit, probably because these people pay for a bulk of their ad revenue too.

Holy shit I hate looking up release dates or confirmations of something whether it's a new season of something or a game. Every top result is the same few sites which write a small novel of mostly unrelated bullshit that ends with "Well we don't know it yet".

 

[ToroidalBoat]

An "information superhighway" where one can't find anything sounds like something out of a comedy sketch.

Quite fitting in Clown World.

 

[Frail Snail]

I think I'm coming around on Bing.

ETA: Yandex, Google and Duckduckgo also have it as the top result minus the worshiping part, Startpage is a bit further down but still first page. Only Bing has it in the answer blurb though.

 

[TurdFondler]

Wow you're not kidding