US Joe Biden News Megathread - The Other Biden Derangement Syndrome Thread (with a side order of Fauci Derangement Syndrome)

Let's pretend for one moment that he does die before the election, just for the funsies. What happens then? Will the nomination revert to option number 2, aka Bernie Sanders? Or will his running mate automatically replace him just the way Vice-President is supposted to step in after the Big Man in the White House chokes on a piece of matzo? Does he even have a running mate yet?

 

[Kuritan Deplorable]

Based Dilbert Merchant called this the "Good CEO Move." When a new guy comes in he HAS to do SOME change that makes everyone happy, even if it's a minor one, to set the tone for his administration and get the bonus goodwill.

Biden hasn't done that, in fact he's done the exact opposite of it, and the inertia of "anyone but Trump" is starting to run out. Wonder how dangerous this admin will get as the desperation sets in.

The earliest moves of his administration, the striking down of some trump era EA's, are still being talked about, because one of them let insulin prices shoot way back up.

He did indeed set the tone for the administration with that move.

 

[Gehenna]

Based Dilbert Merchant called this the "Good CEO Move." When a new guy comes in he HAS to do SOME change that makes everyone happy, even if it's a minor one, to set the tone for his administration and get the bonus goodwill.

Biden hasn't done that, in fact he's done the exact opposite of it, and the inertia of "anyone but Trump" is starting to run out. Wonder how dangerous this admin will get as the desperation sets in.

I also wonder if his rewinding of all the Trump changes, beyond just being sociopathic nuttery, was meant to be that "Good CEO Move." Was Biden mistakenly pandering to the wrong audience? I mean, they stole an election, so there's no real NEED to pander to the voters anymore... (Not really, but if they get that fortification in place...)

So, they kinda fucked themselves over right? Because by promising to get rid of a flu type of virus it would be easier to promise to turn the tides or stop the sun from rising.

Yeah, everybody knows the dems pounced on the covid issue to win the presidency, like you said, it was a godsend to them, but it turns out there is no policy, at least not a super authoritarian one, that can "solve" this problem.

Then again, if Biden didn'r run as the guy who would "shut down the virus", what else would people vote for him? To not be Orange man?

"Overpromise and underdeliver" is practically the motto of this administration. It's been a series of fucking themselves over, largely stemming from the fact they have to act entirely on their own power.

Let me talk about a related aside.

Our system is corrupt... and that's a -good- thing.

There is a sort of... thin grease of corruption that lubricates the political process. You scratch someone's back, they scratch yours, under a few unwritten but clearly understood rules. Don't get too greedy, always ensure that whatever kickbacks you give is less than the good of the bill you made, and don't sabotage anyone else. This thin grease of corruption is necessary to the political process, ensuring everyone benefits including the public. It is massively important to smoothing over the bumps and snags of the political process, to make a bunch of politicians generally agree and provide enough fuel to them to mollify their voters.


The problem for the Cabal is that the steal cost them everything. Every favor, every contributed scent, every bit of capital. It was like someone power washed it with ocyclean. That thin grease entirely removed. And without it, the cabal had to do everything the hard way. Any deal it made, any negotiations it was in, any proposals it created... all had inbuilt resistences and no way to smooth them over. So they got lost in debating increasingly tiny minutia.

 

[Nate Scully 025]

"Overpromise and underdeliver" is practically the motto of this administration. It's been a series of fucking themselves over, largely stemming from the fact they have to act entirely on their own power.

Let me talk about a related aside.

Our system is corrupt... and that's a -good- thing.

There is a sort of... thin grease of corruption that lubricates the political process. You scratch someone's back, they scratch yours, under a few unwritten but clearly understood rules. Don't get too greedy, always ensure that whatever kickbacks you give is less than the good of the bill you made, and don't sabotage anyone else. This thin grease of corruption is necessary to the political process, ensuring everyone benefits including the public. It is massively important to smoothing over the bumps and snags of the political process, to make a bunch of politicians generally agree and provide enough fuel to them to mollify their voters.


The problem for the Cabal is that the steal cost them everything. Every favor, every contributed scent, every bit of capital. It was like someone power washed it with ocyclean. That thin grease entirely removed. And without it, the cabal had to do everything the hard way. Any deal it made, any negotiations it was in, any proposals it created... all had inbuilt resistences and no way to smooth them over. So they got lost in debating increasingly tiny minutia.

Not that I don’t agree tbh... but what’s the reason for that? Was it just bad luck/miscalculations? I haven’t always been the most attentive to politics, but the current Admin seems to be entirely disconnected with both the physical and political reality of the current situation... and yet no one on the inside seems aware of that, and for the life of me I can’t tell why.

 

[Gehenna]

Not that I don’t agree tbh... but what’s the reason for that? Was it just bad luck/miscalculations? I haven’t always been the most attentive to politics, but the current Admin seems to be entirely disconnected with both the physical and political reality of the current situation... and yet no one on the inside seems aware of that, and for the life of me I can’t tell why.

They are aware -now- but they are putting on a front.

How they got here though is... honestly so simple that it is hilarious to me, but also makes sense. They effectively had a series of assumptions which individually were not... bad, but compounded each other.

They assumed the RINOs would be willing to play ball more.
They assumed that Trump would fail to regain any serious power.
They assumed Covid would eventually die out.
They assumed that they could control the narrative.
They assumed people would give in to their de jure power until they could reapply the grease.


Individually, none of these are bad assumptions. And plans were made up relating to each in isolation where those plans made sense. The problem is that they made assumptions which touched on other assumptions.

 

[Honka Honka Burning Love]

Mark my words, when we really kick into election season in the fall, there will be a push for unvaccinated people to not be allowed to vote....you know, for everyone's safety.

And that probably kick off a real insurrection

They assumed Covid would eventually die out.

Well they are somewhat Right, Omnicron is going to cause Covid to die out, however what the DNC failed to realize their whores in the Media are Whores and the DNC aren't paying them but do you know who is?

MSM: Sponsored by Pfizer

Pfizer sponsors many News shows* YouTube is preventing me from uploading certain content and also preventing me from replying to comments. At some point I wi...

www.youtube.com

and who has a monetary incentive to keep the Panic going?

 

[Kuritan Deplorable]

They are aware -now- but they are putting on a front.

How they got here though is... honestly so simple that it is hilarious to me, but also makes sense. They effectively had a series of assumptions which individually were not... bad, but compounded each other.

They assumed the RINOs would be willing to play ball more.
They assumed that Trump would fail to regain any serious power.
They assumed Covid would eventually die out.
They assumed that they could control the narrative.
They assumed people would give in to their de jure power until they could reapply the grease.


Individually, none of these are bad assumptions. And plans were made up relating to each in isolation where those plans made sense. The problem is that they made assumptions which touched on other assumptions.

Seems too incompetent to me for them to just not consider that they would be interlinked. This whole thing feels more to me that they figured that it'd just work after the bonfire, and if it didn't they'd just make it work. Like someone believing they're a protagonist, with plot armor and all.

They're the good guys, so naturally they have to win, right?

 

[GuntPunt]

His popularity on covid was always misleading. And it ties into why they didn't go positive from the start.

How to put it.... alright! Say that you are renting a property, your landlord does nothing, the paint is peeling off, the roof sags, and you got cockroaches everywhere. Then, a new guy buys the property and promises to fix it up if you only give him time. He constantly makes noise about trying to help you and looks like he is trying to do... something. But it never gets done.


That is Biden's covid situation. The popularity was "At least he might do something about it" after much of the general populace was critical of Trump's handling of the issue.

It was never popularity for what he -was- doing, it was the popularity of what they -hoped- he'd do and is why his popularity has steadily decreased on the issue.


There is no meat here, no real policy. They couldn't go with a positive message from the start because they had to actually -do- something first. They had to spray for cockroaches or paint the walls.

Has the perception of Trump's handling of Covid changed as the Holy Savior Biden and Fauci were found to be scam artists on the issue?

 

[Honka Honka Burning Love]

Oh in other news, some bantz from the Bee

Study Finds Supreme Court Has Now Shared More COVID Misinformation Than Your Crazy Facebook Aunt

U.S.—A landmark study conducted by Columbia University has found that The U.S. Supreme Court has now spread more COVID misinformation than your crazy aunt who shares conspiracy theories on Facebook.

babylonbee.com

 

[Ruin]

Trump fucked up a lot during his presidency but by far his biggest mistake was not dismissing Fauci from federal service.

 

[Gehenna]

Seems too incompetent to me for them to just not consider that they would be interlinked. This whole thing feels more to me that they figured that it'd just work after the bonfire, and if it didn't they'd just make it work. Like someone believing they're a protagonist, with plot armor and all.

They're the good guys, so naturally they have to win, right?

Only sounds incompetent in hindsight. What makes it hilarious to me is that it is -the- most common mistake in political analysis.

You spend a long time making your plan for policy A. You factor in the data, make as few assumptions as possible, but end up relying on one or two critical ones. You submit it to your higher ups, who sign off on it, and give you your next task. This one is a new issue, Policy B. You are assuming everything is as it is -now-, so you make your policy writeup, with 1 or 2 critical assumptions. You then submit it, it gets signed off on, and so on.

What happens is that the assumptions for Policy A end up conflicting with Policy B. Individually, each is entirely solid. The problem occurs when put up at the same time.

Now, normally these would be caught in a quality control review done before all are turned in to the politicians we work for. But that can only ever really be done when submitted as a group. So what happens on occasion is that one group is submitted, a policy in it is not used immediately, and when the second group comes in the politician chooses to do both what was in the second group and the policy that he did not do from the first group.

It is not a matter of incompetence, but of a breakdown in the process. But to see it done at such a high level, for such a massive thing is... impressive.

Has the perception of Trump's handling of Covid changed as the Holy Savior Biden and Fauci were found to be scam artists on the issue?

The whole issue is too mixed in with other things to be able to narrow down specific policy. Though there is a generally rising sentiment of "Things were actually better under Trump".

 

[Potatoherder]

Trump fucked up a lot during his presidency but by far his biggest mistake was not dismissing Fauci from federal service.

That stems from his core issue: listening to RINOs. Every failure from his admin comes from believing his enemies would help him.

 

[Honka Honka Burning Love]

That stems from his core issue: listening to RINOs. Every failure from his admin comes from believing his enemies would help him.

That just makes him like the GOP voter base for the past 2 decades.

 

[Polyboros2]

Windmills are the biggest environmental scam since solar panels.

They are an unreliable source, so you'll always need conventional sources to turn on, they burn up a shit ton of lubricants so they still use fossil fuels, they chum up the skies by killing tons of birds.

I'm assuming since powerful entity profits greatly from their production(China? It's an awful lot of steel and aluminum. I'd actually be curious about how much metal production is required per X kilowatt-hour, mining and smelting metal is very polluting). Biden essentially doesn't do something if it isn't profitable for his sponsors(it seems all he does is product rep for Pfiezer.)

 

[Celebrate Nite]

they chum up the skies by killing tons of birds.

O.K. this one got my attention. Wouldn't the birds just fly away from them, or are windmills just powerful enough to suck in a bird and kill it?

 

[Gehenna]

O.K. this one got my attention. Wouldn't the birds just fly away from them, or are windmills just powerful enough to suck in a bird and kill it?

How Many Birds Are Killed by Wind Turbines?

Opinions on the number of birds killed by wind turbines vary wildly. We at American Bird Conservancy (ABC) look at the facts to provide a current estimate.

abcbirds.org

 

[Clockwork_PurBle]

O.K. this one got my attention. Wouldn't the birds just fly away from them, or are windmills just powerful enough to suck in a bird and kill it?

I've had like 5 birds fly into my kitchen window and die in the past six months. They get killed when they fly into the spinning fans and if they're spinning fast enough it can suck them into it.

 

[Kuritan Deplorable]

Its almost as if you can't just plop these things wherever and call the problem solved. Who woulda thunk it. I'm always impressed by how environmentalists refuse to question their own dogma regarding the safety of their choice production, when they themselves demand everyone question the safety of different production methods.

 

[Blackhole]

Its almost as if you can't just plop these things wherever and call the problem solved. Who woulda thunk it. I'm always impressed by how environmentalists refuse to question their own dogma regarding the safety of their choice production, when they themselves demand everyone question the safety of different production methods.

i really hate faux-environmentalist urbanites that push for wind and solar and completely disregard nuclear.
makes me MATI.

 

[Kuritan Deplorable]

i really hate faux-environmentalist urbanites that push for wind and solar and completely disregard nuclear.
makes me MATI.

Especially when they're pro-science, pro-technology, parroting design flaws from the 60's that have been solved since the 80's as reasons to not use nuclear power. Or acting like they all need to be this gigawatt scale football field monstrosity, while the first generation of Small Modular Reactors rolls out into the world. We're approaching the fallout point of just having localised nuclear cells in the basement of a factory that you just ship in, leave running, and replace when the fuel runs low.

But no, the tech enthusiasts want to live in a bubble where they can pretend their actions are perfectly moral, and anything that is perceived as dangerous must be shunned. I would kill to see the environmental impact of just the manufacturing plants that produce chips become a focus of environmentalist groups - not because they'd do anything, but because the amount of water they use and the chemicals they leech into it are spectacular, and it'd freak the environmentalists right out. I want to see their brain fry as they try to justify using twitter to complain about computer chip production. I know they'll find a way, but watching them make the trek is the fun part.

 

[he who has thus come/gone]

Its almost as if you can't just plop these things wherever and call the problem solved. Who woulda thunk it. I'm always impressed by how environmentalists refuse to question their own dogma regarding the safety of their choice production, when they themselves demand everyone question the safety of different production methods.

How many environmentalists have you seen discussing the peril of making billions of people use disposable masks every day that are then thrown into trash, on the ground, into waters, etc? In 50 years, you'll still find disposable masks from the covid era washing up on beaches around the world. Not a single environmentalist gives a flying fuck, so I refuse to take them seriously on any issue.