US Joe Biden News Megathread - The Other Biden Derangement Syndrome Thread (with a side order of Fauci Derangement Syndrome)

Let's pretend for one moment that he does die before the election, just for the funsies. What happens then? Will the nomination revert to option number 2, aka Bernie Sanders? Or will his running mate automatically replace him just the way Vice-President is supposted to step in after the Big Man in the White House chokes on a piece of matzo? Does he even have a running mate yet?

 

[Lorne Armstrong]

>the elites
>human
smh,i thought we all knew that they're child raping vampires.

I’d prefer it if they were.

 

[SouthernBitchBob]

What happens is that the assumptions for Policy A end up conflicting with Policy B. Individually, each is entirely solid. The problem occurs when put up at the same time.

I sense that this blind spot is key for the utopian central planning types who think that you can simply hand all problems to the politburo and they'll work out the solutions.

i really hate faux-environmentalist urbanites that push for wind and solar and completely disregard nuclear.
makes me MATI.

I call these people Druids. The shit test is nuclear. It never fails. They always have a wacky, incoherent position on nuclear vs "green" energy sources that has fuckall to do with feasibility. Nuclear has features that effectively answer all of their stated concerns, but if they start poo-pooing it out of the gate I know I'm talking to a Druid. Druids claim they want sustainable energy, but scratch at the surface of their motivations and it becomes clear they think humans are a disease, all modern innovation is Of The Weaver And Must Be Shunned, and we should be living in grass huts if at all.

 

[Oats12345]

I sense that this blind spot is key for the utopian central planning types who think that you can simply hand all problems to the politburo and they'll work out the solutions.

I call these people Druids. The shit test is nuclear. It never fails. They always have a wacky, incoherent position on nuclear vs "green" energy sources that has fuckall to do with feasibility. Nuclear has features that effectively answer all of their stated concerns, but if they start poo-pooing it out of the gate I know I'm talking to a Druid. Druids claim they want sustainable energy, but scratch at the surface of their motivations and it becomes clear they think humans are a disease, all modern innovation is Of The Weaver And Must Be Shunned, and we should be living in grass huts if at all.

That's basically my stance

 

[Kuritan Deplorable]

A lot of solar hady the same problem, instead of covering big box stores or parking lots, they cheat cut a huge area to put a bunch of panels out of sight. Plus, solar panels require a lot of water to keep efficiency up, and a lot of rare earths that are also polluting to produce and process. All for a small and unreliable source of power. Nuclear has a lot of environmental effects to it as well, but I believe the amount of power to environmental harm is fast superior in nuclear power(not even considering the idea of developing cleaner methods like Thorium).

Solar has its place in the power supply, but not as dedicated power plants. Urban solar panels is a perfectly viable option - Rooftops are already developed space that doesn't have many other practical applications, it can have a measurable impact in a homes power use (Try running an Aluminum Foundry off solar power, you won't get very far), and provides backup options in the event of limited scale natural disasters, when combined with battery technology. When you have critical grid failures like the Texas Blizzard, Solar and On-Site batteries can make a huge difference.

Their production is not particularly environmentally friendly, doubly so for the batteries, but its a far less troublesome impact when deployed at the household scale and not attempting to run any serious industry off them. Nuclear is the irrefutable king of baseload, and honestly even if fusion power becomes viable, nuclear will still have its use. All current fusion designs, if they hit commercial viability, still face a major issue regarding limited downscaling - All that power has to be consumed no matter what, and the floor for viable fusion output is pretty damned high - Nuclear can be exceedingly low, and is a far better option for smaller communities and isolated areas.

 

[Gehenna]

You speak of the steal as it is a certain fact. I don't mean to dispute or debate that, I honestly don't know. But I am curious, since you say your work with politics, I gotta ask, is the notion that Biden stole the election a wide spread and accepted in the world of the politicians.

I mean, I know none of these guys would admit that in public because of the stigma of undermining the "democracy", outside the ones that already have the "brand" to do so, but behind close doors, is it something that the all know and accept?

I mean, I don't mean for your to power level or anything, just a yes or no if you have the awnser... but if the awnser is yes, how do people "inside" see the democrats now? Any image of respect, as little as it would've been, must have taken quite a hit right?

I have to be careful answering this one. There is a general attitude and acknowledgment in the political community that the results of the 2020 election were irregular. Does this mean there is general consensus it was fraudulent? Not quite. No one is contesting that votes were cast that should not have been and that there was interference. There is a lack of general agreement on whether it was sufficient to get Biden in or fell just short of that.

From experience, I'd say it's a 40/30 split of believing it was wholly fraudulent to believing it was just shy. With 30% undetermined.

 

[Rome's rightful successor]

Neo-Environmentalists, maybe. Well that and climate activists. I doubt any of these people who claim to be environmentalists have participated in a beach cleanup, animal rescue, change of habit, etc. that requires work and they may have a blue whale proposition them for marriage.

How about Ecologists? Like Deep Ecocolgy, kind of like what Pentti Linkola was.

 

[That_Guy]

I have to be careful answering this one. There is a general attitude and acknowledgment in the political community that the results of the 2020 election were irregular. Does this mean there is general consensus it was fraudulent? Not quite. No one is contesting that votes were cast that should not have been and that there was interference. There is a lack of general agreement on whether it was sufficient to get Biden in or fell just short of that.

From experience, I'd say it's a 40/30 split of believing it was wholly fraudulent to believing it was just shy. With 30% undetermined.

From experience, I'd say it's a 40/30 split of believing it was wholly fraudulent to believing it was just shy. With 30% undetermined.
Bolded the one word in the whole bit that really jumped out at me. Was expecting that would break out into Not at all/Just enough or similar.

 

[ForTheHoard]

Solar has its place in the power supply, but not as dedicated power plants. Urban solar panels is a perfectly viable option - Rooftops are already developed space that doesn't have many other practical applications, it can have a measurable impact in a homes power use (Try running an Aluminum Foundry off solar power, you won't get very far), and provides backup options in the event of limited scale natural disasters, when combined with battery technology. When you have critical grid failures like the Texas Blizzard, Solar and On-Site batteries can make a huge difference.

Their production is not particularly environmentally friendly, doubly so for the batteries, but its a far less troublesome impact when deployed at the household scale and not attempting to run any serious industry off them. Nuclear is the irrefutable king of baseload, and honestly even if fusion power becomes viable, nuclear will still have its use. All current fusion designs, if they hit commercial viability, still face a major issue regarding limited downscaling - All that power has to be consumed no matter what, and the floor for viable fusion output is pretty damned high - Nuclear can be exceedingly low, and is a far better option for smaller communities and isolated areas.

The problem with non-nuclear green energy is return costs and manufacturing pollution. Solar panels and wind farms have to run for a very long time at maximum efficiency to offset the amount environmental damage done to gather the materials to make them. Most wind turbines will never offset the energy costs of the steel that was used to construct them. Most wind and solar projects are environmentalists actively choosing to hurt the environment.

Nuclear really is the bullshit test. Environmentalists had two choices.
1- Solve all your climate and energy worries with a product that will run for decades and offset its footprint within 5 years. Almost every stage of operation is handled by US workers and with US products.
2- Hobble your nation's energy grids with a system that creates more pollution that it offsets, but people will funnel billions (soon to be trillions) into your cause. Almost every stage of operation is handled by Chinese slave labor and with Chinese products.

Every environmental lobbyist chooses option 2.

 

[Gehenna]

From experience, I'd say it's a 40/30 split of believing it was wholly fraudulent to believing it was just shy. With 30% undetermined.
Bolded the one word in the whole bit that really jumped out at me. Was expecting that would break out into Not at all/Just enough or similar.

Nobody, not even my deep blue colleagues, is denying the election was irregular. Anyone with access to even basic numbers and a knowledge of how the system works can do so and retain credibility. The question then becomes "Where the irregularities sufficient to push Biden over the finish line, or were they ultimately unnecessary". Proving that one way or another is... less clear than the prior question.

 

[Jonah Hill poster]

BAD NEWS FOR BIDEN: New Poll Finds Americans Less Afraid Of Virus Than Inflation, Cost-Of-Living | The Daily Wire

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Just 37% of Americans name the virus as one of their top five priorities for the government to work on in 2022, compared with 53% who said it was a leading priority at the same time a year ago. The economy outpaced the pandemic in the open-ended question, with 68% of respondents mentioning it in some way as a top 2022 concern. A similar percentage said the same last year, but mentions of inflation are much higher now: 14% this year, compared with less than 1% last year.

 

[Gehenna]

BAD NEWS FOR BIDEN: New Poll Finds Americans Less Afraid Of Virus Than Inflation, Cost-Of-Living | The Daily Wire

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The economy has always reigned supreme for major factors in elections. There is no amount of media gaslighting that can hide it or confuse the general populace. The Democrats -need- to pull a miracle to save the midterms at this point. The Republicans could suddenly become the pure evangelical hellfire and brimstone preachers the left likes to claim they are, and they'd still win.

And its just getting worse for them. Every day is another blow. This right here is how you get actual fascists in power, when the populace goes "We want anyone -but you-" and the economy is the biggest thing that can push them towards that.

 

[Getting tard comed]

And its just getting worse for them. Every day is another blow. This right here is how you get actual fascists in power, when the populace goes "We want anyone -but you-" and the economy is the biggest thing that can push them towards that.

This is what I've said since 2016 when Trump first got elected. Trump was the best possible option for everyone involved, the outright death fight we got agaisnt him is exactly how you get outright authoritarianism probably from someone actually on the right side of the spectrum who will not be waving around the gay flag on the campaign trail.

 

[MrJokerRager]

Our nuke plant is getting shut down almost entirely due to mothers against nuclear energy and local politicians being solar/wind dickheads. Makes me mad IRL.

Those mothers deserve to be sterlized and beaten into ground by their bulls.

 

[LaxerBRO]

BAD NEWS FOR BIDEN: New Poll Finds Americans Less Afraid Of Virus Than Inflation, Cost-Of-Living | The Daily Wire

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[Vyse Inglebard]

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You can't be afraid when you have nothing to lose - a situation a lot of people are in right now, I might add......

 

[soy_king]

You're going to shit yourself once you learn about golda Meir lmao

Golda was too old during the Yom Kippur War, and you could attribute the delayed response partly to her. Still a trailblazer who didn't take shit from anyone

 

[m1ddl3m4rch]

Golda was too old during the Yom Kippur War, and you could attribute the delayed response partly to her. Still a trailblazer who didn't take shit from anyone

Seconded. Golda, our grey bunned Iron Grandmother.

 

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I have to be careful answering this one. There is a general attitude and acknowledgment in the political community that the results of the 2020 election were irregular. Does this mean there is general consensus it was fraudulent? Not quite. No one is contesting that votes were cast that should not have been and that there was interference. There is a lack of general agreement on whether it was sufficient to get Biden in or fell just short of that.

From experience, I'd say it's a 40/30 split of believing it was wholly fraudulent to believing it was just shy. With 30% undetermined.

I love that the debate isn't "did they cheat" but rather "was it enough to actually flip the election."

 

[Gehenna]

I love that the debate isn't "did they cheat" but rather "was it enough to actually flip the election."

There is a reason the media narrative went from "There is no proof of fraud" to "There is no proof of significant fraud".

 

[The Ugly One]

The problem with non-nuclear green energy is return costs and manufacturing pollution. Solar panels and wind farms have to run for a very long time at maximum efficiency to offset the amount environmental damage done to gather the materials to make them. Most wind turbines will never offset the energy costs of the steel that was used to construct them. Most wind and solar projects are environmentalists actively choosing to hurt the environment.

Nuclear really is the bullshit test. Environmentalists had two choices.
1- Solve all your climate and energy worries with a product that will run for decades and offset its footprint within 5 years. Almost every stage of operation is handled by US workers and with US products.
2- Hobble your nation's energy grids with a system that creates more pollution that it offsets, but people will funnel billions (soon to be trillions) into your cause. Almost every stage of operation is handled by Chinese slave labor and with Chinese products.

Every environmental lobbyist chooses option 2.

The problem with energy is, in general, that to do useful work, you must concentrate a lot of energy in a small volume and release it into a large volume. Literally every single way of doing this generates crazy shit. There's no such thing as "green" energy, because to collect enough energy to do anything more interesting than get a bit warm, you've got to get tiny particles banging into each other or breaking up in a way that can and will make bad things happen. There is no way around this. There are no exceptions. Energy means pollution. Our choices are to mitigate and live with pollution as best we can, or to return to monke.