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Syntaxion said:
No? I wanted to address your claim about how it was supposedly different in Germany and pointed out how it really isn't, despite the laws.
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You said that people could consent and that is different from America.

Syntaxion said:
No? I wanted to address your claim about how it was supposedly different in Germany and pointed out how it really isn't, despite the laws.
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And if it really isn't different then why not change the laws since according to your logic the result would be the same.
 
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BoxerShorts47 said:
You said that people could consent and that is different from America.
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According to the law
But law doesn't define reality, or consensus

My argument was never that Europe has the same aoc as the US, but that in practice people here view it the same way as in America.

BoxerShorts47 said:
And if it really isn't different then why not change the laws since according to your logic the result would be the same.
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Hey, if they had a referendum on changing our aoc from 16 to 18, it would be accepted by a landslide. So yeah I agree, we might aswel change our aoc to 18.
As for lowering it, that's to stop opportunists like you
 
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hey look the red bionicle has an early life secition

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BoxerShorts47 said:
Inverse.
If you're the type of person who questions, you'll likely end up questioning race, IQ, AoC, the JQ, the fed, etc.


10 years ago, people thought the race stuff was crazy.
I remember when people on 4chan used to drive stormfags back to stormfront.
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So your movement is doomed to fail like a tank with a broken tread spinning in circles.

BoxerShorts47 said:
The reason AoC is being questioned is because people don't accept it.
Whether it's a college bro who hooks up with a high school girl "Dude she told me she was 18."
Or the occasional pedophilia story which turns out to be some 20 something with a high school age women.
Or maybe even the inverse of some high school "chad" that hooks up with his Stacey teacher.
AoC at 15/18 has only been the norm since ~1920, Romeo and Juliet loopholes for much less, Texas since 2011, Florida since 2007.
The Romeo & Juliet arguments "well if a 17 yr old has sex with another 17 yr old that's safe and wholesome but if they have sex with a 24 yr old that's evil and pedophilia because of power imbalance harm..." don't make sense. Especially because many of us saw toxic relationships where both people were minions.
Part of social change is people grew up and they question what they experienced in their younger years and generally massive social change occurs around the 4 or maybe 5 generation mark (so when the entire population has been replaced) so it makes sense that Age of Consent is being questioned now.

Did you watch the Destiny vs Lauren Southern panel? They constantly differentiated between statutory rape with a 17 yr old vs real pedophilia. The conservative women didn't think those 2 actions were equivalent. My own impression is the support for 18 is very soft. If we look at other nations in Europe, 14-16 is the range you typically find and that would solve most of the jailbait issues.


I can't follow all those antis.
Most users on this website are center-left or center-right depending on how you define these camps.
Their views are on race are in line with the general US population.
"Racism bad. Coexist good. Let's just stop the anti-whiteness and get along."
If they use racial slurs, they've accepted that they're sinners and deserve punishment.


You iterate and eventually you'll settle on the range of 12-16 because that's when women go through puberty and that matches the behavior we see IRL.
11 is too low. 17 is too high. and you make, some degree arbitrary, arguments for where you think the best age is.
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Well thanks for your large explanation.

I guess the main 2 points I want to say is;

1) the “college bros” who are gagging to change the law so they can commit more daterape in da clubz on underage girls or a “chad” who wants to fuck his “Stacy” home room teacher both sound like degenerates who (((white))) nationalists want nothing to do with and won’t help you progress your goal (if anything I may lead to more mutt babies and single mothers).
How are you saving the (((white))) race by letting them fuck more underage strange?

2) Don’t you understand why people think this is weird you will die on this AoC hill? It’s quite transparent that you seem to be more passionate about being able to creep on high schoolers than you are saving the (((white))) race.


I don’t write paragraphs of texts defending something unless I plan on doing/using that something myself.
 
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Trigger Me Timbers said:
So your movement is doomed to fail like a tank with a broken tread spinning in circles.


Well thanks for your large explanation.

I guess the main 2 points I want to say is;

1) the “college bros” who are gagging to change the law so they can commit more daterape in da clubz on underage girls or a “chad” who wants to fuck his “Stacy” home room teacher both sound like degenerates who (((white))) nationalists want nothing to do with and won’t help you progress your goal (if anything I may lead to more mutt babies and single mothers).
How are you saving the (((white))) race by letting them fuck more underage strange?

2) Don’t you understand why people think this is weird you will die on this AoC hill? It’s quite transparent that you seem to be more passionate about being able to creep on high schoolers than you are saving the (((white))) race.


I don’t write paragraphs of texts defending something unless I plan on doing/using that something myself.
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Actually I agree with about the degenerates.

With that said, I want to lower age of consent and I also want to abolish public education and figure out how to get people entering serious relationships and entering the workforce in their 10s rather than 20s, although it's difficult because of the university system. I don't agree with the infantilization of teenagers. I think we're delaying their maturity and that's part of the birthrate problem.
 
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BoxerShorts47 said:
Actually I agree with about the degenerates.

With that said, I want to lower age of consent and I also want to abolish public education and figure out how to get people entering serious relationships and entering the workforce in their 10s rather than 20s, although it's difficult because of the university system. I don't agree with the infantilization of teenagers. I think we're delaying their maturity and that's part of the birthrate problem.
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We got rid of child labor for a reason.
 
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Marissa Moira said:
We got rid of child labor for a reason.
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We have exceptions for child labor (12 and under) like in agriculture but I was thinking about something more part-time and more apprenticeship-based where they learn useful skills (e.g. sewing, cooking, coding etc).
Spending pre-K-12 in public education is a horrible waste of time and it delays maturity.
 
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When Boxy won't answer my questions about his super cool Apple gig. *sigh*
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Re: Resume (link to post)
September 2013-October 2013 Apple - Public Relations

So you identified a mistake in Apple's software and contacted them and because of that you're an Apple employee? And how did you contact the executive PR team? Do the top minds at Apple just talk to anyone who calls? Were you paid?

This is a weird thing to put on a resume.
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BoxerShorts47 said:
We have exceptions for child labor (12 and under) like in agriculture but I was thinking about something more part-time and more apprenticeship-based where they learn useful skills (e.g. sewing, cooking, coding etc).
Spending pre-K-12 in public education is a horrible waste of time and it delays maturity.
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How does public education delay maturity?
 
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When Boxy won't answer my questions about his super cool Apple gig. *sigh*


How does public education delay maturity?
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One of my major theories is that "teenager" isn't a "new" phase of life but an undiagnosed mental health illness.
Teenager as a concept didn't exist until the 1940s, which is about 20 years (1 generation) after compulsory education laws were fully mandated.
Interestingly @Balanced Boomer were the first generation to have teenagers and the 1950s normalized teenager culture which we think is normal today.
The main issue is that public education is prison-lite. It stops people from making life decisions, teaches people to kiss ass to pass classes, and obsess on popularity.
So it causes a combination of institutional syndrome, learned helplessness and upward social comparison or similar mental issues.
I think the concept we know as "entering the real world" and the life lessons people in their 20s is the cure for teenager syndrome.
I think people in the past wouldn't suffered these issues and they would have learned life lessons faster.

 
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